http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=46#comment-182601
replying to someone asking how many e-cats where pre ordered already, rossi
made the following comment :
about 100,000
As the pre order announce occurred about 81 days ago this gives us about 1234
pre orders everyday,
I was thinking:
As a good example, the ecatnews.com headline reads: Andrea Rossi:
Almost 100,000 Domestic eCat Orders.
How many of you have (subconsciously?) read this as domestic orders for
an eCat instead of orders for a domestic eCat? And how many of you
have assumed for other reasons
Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote:
Not a fan of NET, but this seems to give a different view on it:
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/newenergytimes.com/
I ran this utility for LENR-CANR.org. The curve does not resemble the
pattern of our actual traffic. There is probably not
What, exactly, do mean 100,000 orders for
a product that is not still on the market?
Is this a proof of the products value and performances? The workld market
for such a product is in the range of hundreds of millions.
Peter
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl
From Rich,
Hamiltonian, PL Hagelstein, IU Chaudhary 2012.01.20: Rich Murray
2012.02.09
Including nuclear degrees of freedom in a lattice Hamiltonian, PL
Hagelstein, IU Chaudhary 2012.01.20: Rich Murray 2012.02.09
[ Rich Murray: the end of the beginning for cold fusion -- rapid
As It stands right now, no money is actually tied to these preorders. I'm
sure that in A.R's world, they serve to legitimize his claims. For a potential
investor, it would be requiring to hear that he has already received 100,000
firm commitments (and actually sold fourteen 1MW plants!).
As one
Yes it is a bit unusual, as Wlad's paper are too.
Peter
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
As It stands right now, no money is actually tied to these preorders.
I'm sure that in A.R's world, they serve to legitimize his claims. For a
From Peter,
What, exactly, do mean 100,000 orders for
a product that is not still on the market?
...
Good question.
One way I can look at this conundrum is to do some simple napkin math.
100,000 orders x $500 to $1000 (retail price per eCat) comes to gross
sales of approximately 50 to 100
From Peter:
...
As one of the sillier examples of his preorder method, let's take Wladimir
as an example:
Wladimir Guglinski February 8th, 2012 at 2:59 AM
Dear Mr. Andrea Rossi
May I pre-order 1000 eCats? Firstly I will ask to send me 5 eCats. After
selling them, I will ask more 10, and
A good Ponzi scheme needs some intelligence
and organization. We in Romanian had two
great ones after the 1989 revolution- made many people bankrupt. You had
one really
great recently.
But this scheme 100,000 (coming 1000,000,000
next) so called orders is IMHO just a game, circus, marketing
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
A good Ponzi scheme needs some intelligence
and organization. We in Romanian had two
great ones after the 1989 revolution- made many people bankrupt. You had one
really
great recently.
But this scheme 100,000 (coming
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
wrote:
A good Ponzi scheme needs some intelligence
and organization. We in Romanian had two
great ones after the 1989 revolution- made many people
-Original Message-
From: Bastiaan Bergman
it is said that the reason RM never actively pursues - or mentions the
so-called deuterino (reduced orbital deuterium species) relates to
potential weaponization.
How can Deuterinos be weaponized?
Let's be clear on this. It is most unlikely
From Peter:
...
See please my old paper:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/05/buying-e-cat-in-sack.html
No real dialogue possible with Rossi, sorry for him.
Peter
Personally, I think it's a tad premature for us to feel sorry for
Rossi. He strikes me as an extraordinarily intuitive
Your theory has a lot of good points but I think one of us has a
misconception about Rydberg matter .. and it could be me so maybe we can
hash out a couple things right now and at least one of us will benefit.
Sorry for the delay Francis.
I’ll start with a the small bone to pick that I have
Von:Peter Gluck
peter.gl...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 17:29 Freitag, 10.Februar 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:10 e-cats preordered
No real dialogue possible
with Rossi, sorry for him.
Peter
---
in this very diffuse situation I would jump to Rossi's
Of course Krivit weights in
http://www.livescience.com/18415-ecat-cold-fusion-fraud.html
in this article by
Natalie Wolchover, Life's Little Mysteries Staff Writer.
(Does she know that her illustration is actually He?)
T
There is not heat up here. Just old news and more proof that CF is
impossible.
2012/2/10 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
Of course Krivit weights in
http://www.livescience.com/18415-ecat-cold-fusion-fraud.html
in this article by
Natalie Wolchover, Life's Little Mysteries Staff Writer.
At this point Krivit's purpose in life appears to be little more than
damage control for institutional science.
He will fail.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course Krivit weights in
http://www.livescience.com/18415-ecat-cold-fusion-fraud.html
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
50 to 100 million certainly sounds impressive. I guess if I were
in Andrea's shoes perhaps I would take those figures to the bank and use it
as a form of financial collateral in order to secure additional funding to
help scale up
btw .. SK has a no-new-news article up on
SPAWAR LENR Research At Risk
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/08/spawar-lenr-research-at-risk/
and a just obtained list of articles at
Refereed Low-Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) Journal Papers
This thread is about the list of the 100.000
domestic E-cats and my opinion is that it is
a bluff.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
50 to 100 million certainly sounds impressive. I guess if
I meant cf has jumped to be successful science, finally...
On Feb 10, 2012 6:07 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
From Rich,
Hamiltonian, PL Hagelstein, IU Chaudhary 2012.01.20: Rich Murray
2012.02.09
Including nuclear degrees of freedom in a lattice
Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 20:08 Freitag, 10.Februar 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:10 e-cats preordered
I don't wish any bad to Rossi, but I think that
it is not good that the development of this new source of
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:14:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
I think it is reasonable to assume that Rydberg atoms being far smaller and
more electrostatically nimble than the large molecule types will be ionized
by the micro-powder to protons that will accumulate inside the
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:14:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Also, in such an excited gas envelope, it is safe to assume that some of
these mixtures of Rydberg molecules will transform into the inverse type in
time.
How do you envisage this transformation process taking place?
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:14:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
If not absorbed into the micro-powder, these large and excited molecules of
all types will steal more Rydberg atoms from the envelope and grow even
bigger.
Normal Rydberg atoms are unstable to spontaneous decay to
From Rich:
I meant cf has jumped to be successful science, finally...
I think I was a little snippier than usual this morning because I had
not yet had my cop'o'java.
In any case, I certainly agree. Let us both hope the trend continues.
Where it will eventually leads us, nobody knows!
Guenter, I agree with what you say, but I want
to see the problem solved. My time- the rest is
short.
Plus in the area where I spent my first 21 years till
I became an engineer (Temeswar, Banat)_ correctness,
punctuality, honesty and hard work were basic values.
We don't like Gauners and Rossi is
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:45:45 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
From the demo of the first one liter Rossi reactor during the time at
startup when the lattice was cold, a massive radiation burst appeared for a
second or two.
I often wonder if this was due to D+H - He3, and stopped
This depletion of D+H mechanism is logically consistent with a radiation
burst at startup, but it does not fit for the shutdown case since at
shutdown all the D should have been consumed at startup.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:26 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of
yeah I again quit coffee -- irritable, variable energy, worse handwriting
-- tea ok
On Feb 10, 2012 12:41 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
From Rich:
I meant cf has jumped to be successful science, finally...
I think I was a little snippier than usual this
Hi Axil,
You have a reasonable theory but we will always have some small disagreements
based on a fundamental difference in perspective which is what led to my
questions. We both agree that both Rydberg and inverse Rydberg atoms are
involved but I think the micro cavities initiate the plasma
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:17:01 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
This depletion of D+H mechanism is logically consistent with a radiation
burst at startup, but it does not fit for the shutdown case since at
shutdown all the D should have been consumed at startup.
I agree. How
I think this info was cataloged by Jed and posted in the January timeframe
but the details are now gone from me.
But there is the experiments by Piantelli as referenced in my first post on
this thread which characterizes the radiation phenomena well. These
radiation results were positive for
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There is strength in numbers, especially if large numbers of Rydberg atoms
are coherent. This tendency for Rydberg atoms to sync up will make them
very long lived because there will be no interfering wave patterns to
disturb the coherent ensemble.
See:
Viewpoint: Rydberg Atoms Jump in Bunches
See my post in this thread as follows:
RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Rydberg question from Francis
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:14:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
I think it is reasonable to assume that Rydberg atoms being far
My opinion that Inverse Rydberg Matter has now changed to be of little
impact on the NiH reaction.
The evidence leading to this change of opinion revolves around the
formation of cooper pairs of protons as indicated by multiple examples of
superconductive behavior as explained in other recent
-- Forwarded message --
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Rydberg question from Francis
To: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
I base my ideas primarily on the work of Leif Holmlid, Heinrich Hora,
George
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