Re: [Vo]:LENR Cold Fusion website- Investing in LENR Cold Fusion

2012-09-16 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: "Ron Kita" > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:11:02 PM > Nicely done: > http://coldfusion3.com/blog/best-lenr-investments-or-at-least-companies-to-watch Rossi, at the end of his "taxi" talk with Sterling Allen, said that the eCat is too risky to invest in! It's also interesting that he

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: You can play with ideas all you want. The information in the subject > article from Defkalion is primitive, it's hard to tell what it means. Not > just in terms of implication, but in terms of what they actually did to > collect it. Read

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:24 PM 9/16/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: This page is not widely known? -- I refer to that page below, the "Rex Research" page, at least in one incarnation. High voltage. (no more original content below). "Dozens of scientific papers were published between 1905 and 1927 concerning the

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
This page is not widely known? -- "Dozens of scientific papers were published between 1905 and 1927 concerning the mysterious appearance of hydrogen, helium and neon in vacuum tubes. The matter never has been resolved." http://www.levity.com/alchemy/nelson2_6.html Jeff On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
If you want relatively copious transmutation reactions, you use high voltages. I don't know the rates, specifically, but I'd not be surprised to find some low level of transmutation at 100 V. That's pretty hot, anyone know the equivalent temperature? From Wikipedia, I come up with 100 eV as be

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:26 PM 9/16/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: > That comment is a bit over my line. I think Abd's position is appropriate at > this point in time. Well, Jeff, I guess my emotions have gotten the better of me. How long have you been seekin

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
I didn't mean to take a shot at you Terry. Answers to your three questions. How long? Not long (although I've followed the subject on and off since 1989) - no credentials here. Trying to deceive us? No. Incompetent people? No. I believe we do them a favor by being professionally skeptical and aski

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:58 PM 9/16/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > It's simply the order in which the technician picked up and tested the > samples. The exact test method isn't given. From what Defkalion has said, > apparently, they ran at least 25 samples

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:59:46 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] >I guess I am not sure how to give transmutation at low energy the respect it >might deserve. Your bringing it up again for discussion might help resolve >the issue. > It's not so difficult to accept, if y

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy on Hi-Temp Superconductivity LENR

2012-09-16 Thread hellokevin
Axil:   Hasn't the existence of this attractive force been disproven?    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012arXiv1205.4922B   On "Novel attractive forces" between ions in quantum plasmas -- failure of linearized quantum hydrodynamics Bonitz, M.; Pehlke, E.; Schoof, T. eprint arXiv:1205.4922 In a r

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:29 PM 9/16/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: [quoting Defkalion at http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1290] "XRF devises (sic), such the ones we use, label the measurements automatically per day, maintaining a sequential number. We perform such analysis in batches having

RE: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
I'm with you on that. However, this does not mean that they have nothing. In fact, the scenario that best fits the facts is that they seen excess heat in that range of COP= 1.5-2; which is significant in itself - but they are burdened with a flawed business plan which was built on the expectation

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "David Roberson" > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:30:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article > To me 250 electron volts of energy in the form of electron projectiles > is incredibly small. The neutron generators that can be had all > operate with some

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
Oh, one more question, how many think they (PDGTG) have employed incompetent people, who do not know what they are doing? Hands? T

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
So, how many people here think Defkalion is trying to deceive us? Raise your hands. T

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: > That comment is a bit over my line. I think Abd's position is appropriate at > this point in time. Well, Jeff, I guess my emotions have gotten the better of me. How long have you been seeking a solution to the world's energy problem? I a

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
That comment is a bit over my line. I think Abd's position is appropriate at this point in time. Jeff On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > wrote: > > > It's simply the order in which the technician picked up and tested th

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > It's simply the order in which the technician picked up and tested the > samples. The exact test method isn't given. From what Defkalion has said, > apparently, they ran at least 25 samples that day. > > There are a host of questions.

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:54 AM 9/16/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: TheNextFuture, 5RR. I predict a block any day for TheNextFuture. This is an SPA, likely the sock of a banned user. New users don't file AfDs in their first few edits. . . .

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:14 PM 9/16/2012, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:19:26 -0500: Hi, [snip] >1. They appear to be different samples. It is not stated that they >are the same reaction material, before and after. The analysis >numbers are "07/18/12 #25

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Okay, these are analysis numbers, not sample numbers, per se. This is not good control, by the way, but that's a different question. Samples should be labelled and then correlated with analysis. Now, what we know is that the two samples were analyzed on the same day. How long was this experim

Re: [Vo]:free energy rap

2012-09-16 Thread Ruby
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[Vo]:free energy rap

2012-09-16 Thread Harry Veeder
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Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM, wrote: > In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:19:26 -0500: > Hi, > [snip] >>1. They appear to be different samples. It is not stated that they >>are the same reaction material, before and after. The analysis >>numbers are "07/18/12 #25

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:19:26 -0500: Hi, [snip] >1. They appear to be different samples. It is not stated that they >are the same reaction material, before and after. The analysis >numbers are "07/18/12 #25 " for the "before," and " 07/18/12 >#23" " f

RE: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
How embarrassing. All those posts on biological transmutation, and we misspelled the guy's last name in most of them. Should be Kervran, no? From: MarkI-ZeroPoint Dave Roberson wrote: "I guess I am not sure how to give transmutation at low energy the respect it might deserve."

RE: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Dave Roberson wrote: "I guess I am not sure how to give transmutation at low energy the respect it might deserve." This might help. The general topic of transmutation (not linked to LENR) has been discussed within the Collective many times. and has been mired in obscurity for decades (gee

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

2012-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > TheNextFuture, 5RR. I predict a block any day for TheNextFuture. This is > an SPA, likely the sock of a banned user. New users don't file AfDs in > their first few edits. . . . All these arcane acronyms: SPA, AfD, blah, blah. As I said, Wikipedia is too complicated

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

2012-09-16 Thread Sverre Haslund
You are absolutely correct. I am not an experienced user and I will not push this further ayway :-) Sverre Haslund 2012/9/16 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > At 05:03 AM 9/15/2012, Sverre Haslund wrote: > >> Hmm.. my edit about SGS certificate has held for 10 minutes. < >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**

Re: [Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > The scion of Toyota who started the program died of old age, and others >> who were determined to stop it won out. >> > > Perhaps. > Perhaps what? Perhaps he is still alive? Perhaps they were not determined to close it down? They said they were! Fleischmann and ever

Re: [Vo]:OT nuclear physicist as dutch prime minister?

2012-09-16 Thread LORENHEYER
UFO's are Unmistakable Formidable Objects << UFO's are? >>

Re: [Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-16 Thread James Bowery
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > To refer to something in another post, sure, we can be pretty good at > engineering, but not necessarily when we don't understand how something is > working. That's what has been missing: an understanding of the effect. > Until we unde

RE: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
This might be of interest, for transmutation on an even larger scale: POWER LINE STUDIES I: LABORATORY AND FIELD OBSERVATIONS AND EXPERIMENTS RELATING RADIOACTIVITY AND ALTERNATING ELECTRIC AND/OR MAGNETIC FIELDS ... which is the documentation of transmutation products under high power lines. ht

Re: [Vo]:Don't waste your time trying to edit the E-Cat Article

2012-09-16 Thread Alain Sepeda
for the ethernal optimistixc about wikipedia, why not make wiki entries for the business men, not supporting CF, following the official delusion with a visible hypocritical view... fr Rossi, I would avoid, because he is the worst ad for skeptics... but put Robert godes, Truchard, Concezzi, xantho

Re: [Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-16 Thread Alain Sepeda
as far as I have enduerstood, CEA Grenble have replicated and checked against more modern metrology. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LonchamptGreproducti.pdf but maybe I miss a point 2012/9/16 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > At 09:25 PM 9/15/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > <