Re: [Vo]:questions on McKubre cells and AC component

2014-10-24 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so you can design a calorimeter to detect this particular endothermic reaction, however, if you don't know a-priori what type of endothermic reaction or what energy source

[Vo]:Negative Luminescence and the HotCat

2014-10-23 Thread H Veeder
From the wikipedia page on ​Negative Luminescence *​((My thoughts are in double brackets​))* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_luminescence Negative luminescence is a physical phenomenon by which an electronic device emits less thermal radiation when an electric current is passed through it

Re: [Vo]:Negative Luminescence and the HotCat

2014-10-23 Thread H Veeder
dlrober...@aol.com wrote: This effect sounds like a form of heat pump. The energy is moved from one location to another. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 2:33 am Subject: [Vo]:Negative Luminescence

Re: [Vo]:Negative Luminescence and the HotCat

2014-10-23 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: The assumption that there is any equilibrium in the reactor and, hence, black body radiation from it surface, is not correct IMO. Would that be equivalent to saying the surface cannot have a steady temperature?​

Re: [Vo]:Negative Luminescence and the HotCat

2014-10-23 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: As Rossi has stated on many occasions, only the market can convince some folks of reality. Rossi could have chosen the academic route but he hasn't. He has *decided* the market will decide and for better or worse

Re: [Vo]:Negative Luminescence and the HotCat

2014-10-23 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Given that Levi did know of this phenomenon – and that it could be helpful in the context of the experiment – all he needs to do is release the thermocouple data which may not support the highest gain, but probably is

[Vo]:Three enlarged pictures of the hotcat.

2014-10-21 Thread H Veeder
MFMP placed enlarged three pictures of hotcat together for comparison. https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/photos/pcb.850773311620036/850772991620068/?type=1theater In the report the bottom picture is contracted. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-21 Thread H Veeder
On surface the report contains as many imperfections as the alumina tube. ;-) harry On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It could be that the nature of the light is very unusual as produced by the reactor. If only

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-21 Thread H Veeder
A lack of caftsmanship is not necessarily antithetical to greatness. e.g. The first transistor was crudely assembled. http://cnx.org/resources/9120e4bccd37da6ab1c4ff90e8c498cc/firsttransistor.gif Harry On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:15 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On surface the report

[Vo]:OT: The Man From Space

2014-10-21 Thread H Veeder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBuWTP9SQLk Harry

Re: [Vo]: a DCE photon multiplier

2014-10-21 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Humor aside, I think you might find this interesting: http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.6364 ​march 2013 test, p. 7 We note that the authors’ reasoning in the case of the thermal signature shows a tendency to quickly jump

[Vo]:Bioluminescent/Glowing Deep Sea Creatures

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
Amazing Bioluminescent/Glowing Deep Sea Creatures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD7thJVRKmQ ​Harry​

[Vo]:Anticipate updates to report

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
Andrea Rossi October 20th, 2014 at 10:18 AM JCRenoir: The Professors told me that they are discussing the questions that merit an answer and that will answer to such questions by means of updates of the report published on http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-mattrapport-publicerad Their report will be

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
In this context the temperature /T/ ​ is known​ a-priori ​and the output power /q/ ​is known ​ a posteriori , so emissivity /ε/ ​will​ adjust the ouptut power downwards ​if​ 0 ​ ​ ​ ​ /ε/ 1 q = ε σ T^4 A ​Harry​ On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2014 04:30 PM, H Veeder wrote: In this context the temperature /T/ ​ is known​ a-priori ​ and the output power /q/ ​ is known ​ a posteriori , so emissivity /ε/ ​ will​ adjust the ouptut power

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
Maybe Jed is right. See this subjective colour temperature chart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_radiation#Subjective_color_to_the_eye_of_a_black_body_thermal_radiator ​ Contrast with this chart which are presumably the true temperature colours.

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
​ On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: But the question I've been trying to ask, isn't the color adjusted by the emissivity factor? So if the emissivity is 0.75, then doesn't this mean that the observed color is less than the actual temperature?

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: If the outside surface temperature really is 1400 deg C, then the outside surface material should be incandescent white. It does not matter what the inside temperature is. All materials glow with the same incandescent

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: H Veeder Ø Other examples of light emitting bodies which* do not* follow the incandescent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies. Yup. And as far back as 1886 it was noticed that alumina

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-20 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: But the question I've been trying to ask, isn't the color adjusted by the emissivity factor? So if the emissivity is 0.75, then doesn't this mean that the observed color is less than the actual temperature?

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
Should the reactor radiate like a normal incandescent body ​of 1400C or does the reactor radiate according to some other rules? Jed (and Mizuno?) assume it behaves like a normal incandescent body of 1400C so it should glow white. Since it doesn't glow white they assume the output power estimate

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
with for so long Harry. I may have found a method of getting to the real temperature value. The technique need a lot more calibration before it can be trusted. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 3

[Vo]:MFMP on Lithium

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
From the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project facebook page: --- Is this the catalyst? As we reported in a previous Facebook post, we know for a fact that Pons and Fleischmann had a key Lithium compound in their lab,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
it is shinning through an atmosphere of alumina. With this model of illumination the the output power estimates appear valid. Harry On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: In the report they said they were unable to attach

[Vo]:OT: Where are we?

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
Are you ok? 'cause this place can sometimes make people feel a bit... ...you know... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3bGYljQ5Uw Harry

Re: [Vo]:MFMP on Lithium

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
well done. harry On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I must have produce 500 posts identifying an alkali metal as the Rossi secret catalyst and even better, I provided the theory behind that recommendation. Lithium is a simplistic conclusion to draw from the

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Jed-- I hope you get an answer. This question has caused me to resist getting into a give and take about the camera data. The thermocouple must have been used to calibrate the camera at operating conditions, IF IT

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Consider the difference between the sun at noon and the sun at dawn/dusk. The interior of the HotCat glows white but from the outside it glows red like a sunrise because

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
Other examples of light emitting bodies which do not follow the incandascent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence Harry On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:27 PM, H Veeder hveeder

Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature

2014-10-19 Thread H Veeder
electromagnetic radiation. The term 'luminescence' was introduced in 1888 by Eilhard Wiedemann On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:16 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Other examples of light emitting bodies which do not follow the incandascent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies

Re: [Vo]:To Arms

2014-10-18 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: James, it's just so tiring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uai7M4RpoLU Let them continue to hallucinate; their typing is the only thing keeping the economy going while a new infrastructure is being built right under their noses!

Re: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle

2014-10-18 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The isotopic analyses are a little amazing, and, as far as I can tell, do not give indications of a gradient effect in the 6Li and 62Ni species. ​ appendix 3 measured abundance in ash sample 6Li - 92.1% 7Li - 7.9%

Re: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle

2014-10-18 Thread H Veeder
Dave and Axil, On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I can't believe that the independent science team could ever make a mistake that bad: measuring a reactor temperature that as actually at 700C as being 1400C. ​​ ​Ordinarily a surface at 1400C should glow

Re: [Vo]:Hotcat melting miracle

2014-10-18 Thread H Veeder
Where are the neutrons? Must be a mistake. Where is the white glow? Must be another mistake. Harry

[Vo]:Macro-Micro cosmos

2014-10-18 Thread H Veeder
Poetic infusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4kEuz7G3E Harry

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-18 Thread H Veeder
_Colour temperature_ refers to the *peak* emission of a blackbody whose temperature produces a peak emission within the visible spectrum. e.g. The surface of the sun is about 6000C and the peek emission is white light so it has colour temperature of white. _Incadescence_ ​is the *visible* light

Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature

2014-10-18 Thread H Veeder
emission wavelength are we not? Why would you expect the device to look white hot when a known metal casting looks orange hot at approximately the same temperature? What am I missing? Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Why doesn't Rossi makes a self feeding Hot Cat and ends the controversy.

2014-10-17 Thread H Veeder
This assumes insulating it will have no adverse effect on the new fire, but excessive insulation could extinguish it. A good test to perform on the Hotcat would be to add the insulation *after* start up. Harry On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote: I don't know why

Re: [Vo]:Greenhouse HotCat

2014-10-17 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:31 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up Harry. I wonder if others on the list are seeing my new topics being sent to spam. The question that I am asking is whether or not there are clues to the behavior of the temperature and power

[Vo]:Giant Rydberg excitons in the copper oxide Cu2O

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7522/full/nature13832.html Giant Rydberg excitons in the copper oxide Cu2O Nature 514, 343–347 (16 October 2014) doi:10.1038/nature13832Received 05 March 2014 Accepted 02 September 2014 Published online 15 October 2014 A highly excited atom having an

[Vo]:Sunspots

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
Sunspots are examples of unusually cool regions persisting in hotter surroundings, so it is not beyond all experience to say that the temperature of the wire inside the reactor remains below its melting temperature. Harry

[Vo]:Is the beginning of the end of the ECat saga?

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
Doesn't look good for Rossi, but I am not sure I understand Pomp's point. Is Pomp saying Rossi is ​rewriting history to make it look ​ ​ Ni62 was present in the ash of his earlier ​EC at? http://stephanpomp.blogspot.se/2014/10/mr-rossi-i-admire-you.html ​Harry​

Re: [Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
So Rossi's quasi-scam is to jerk around a bunch of scientists with phony reactors so as to throw off his competitors? harry On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Randy Wuller So for example, let’s say Rossi knew that

Re: [Vo]:Is the beginning of the end of the ECat saga?

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* H Veeder Doesn't look good for Rossi, but I am not sure I understand Pomp's point. Is Pomp saying Rossi is rewriting history to make it look like​ Ni62 was present in the ash of his earlier EC at? http

[Vo]:OT: The Courage to Create

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
The Courage to Create by Rollo May https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auOW5tNFjZg Psychoanalyst Rollo May~We Lack Mystery! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw0SCmoj9tc ​Harry​

[Vo]:OT: ​Brené Brown - Embracing Vulnerability

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
​​ Brené Brown - Embracing Vulnerability https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO6n9HmG0qM ​Harry​

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Courage to Create

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
sorry the link to ​_ Psychoanalyst Rollo May~We Lack Mystery!_ should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi9NAzMJbds Harry On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The Courage to Create by Rollo May https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auOW5tNFjZg

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Phone Cops

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: To see how truly powerful TPC is, you have to watch this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President's_Analyst ThePhoneCompany https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbbpjd52atwfeature=youtu.bet=5m59s Maybe this inspired the

Re: [Vo]:Greenhouse HotCat

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
Dave, for some reason when you start a new thread your message appears in my spam folder. I am not sure what you are asking, but the Earth supposedly generates some heat too. I am not sure how much of this heat contributes to the global temperature. Harry On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Greenhouse HotCat

2014-10-16 Thread H Veeder
Dave, for some reason when you start a new thread your message appears in my spam folder. I am not sure what you are asking, but the Earth supposedly generates some heat too. I am not sure how much of this heat contributes to the global temperature. Harry On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, David

[Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
Some people suspect that the resistor wire can't be Inconel because they are predicted to melt at the reactor's operating temperature. However, since we know the resistor wire casts a shadow in the alumina, the temperature of the wire remains below the operating temperature and therefore can't

Re: [Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
If the wire were the brightest area there would be no excess heat. Harry On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: how do you know this? How do you know the the wire is not the brightest area? On 15 October 2014 15:06, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: how do you know this? How do you know the the wire is not the brightest area? On 15 October 2014 15:06, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Some people suspect that the resistor wire can't be Inconel because

[Vo]:Thermography

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
If the thermography was done reasonably well, then it is proving to be more than just a means of measuring excess heat, it is also a means of probing the LENR phenomena. Harry

Re: [Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
Thanks for posting your ideas. I hadn't seen that picture of the march 2013 reactor sitting on the scale with heating coils visible. Why don't we just accept that the authors of the 2014 test also know enough about the construction of the reactor to say that the dark bands align with the wires?

Re: [Vo]:E-cat : Minimum COP assuming worst mistakes possible

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
You might say I am splitting hairs but what Mckubre has written here is technically incorrect. The Stephan-Boltzman law is relationship between temperature and output power. It is not a relationship between input power and output power so you can't use the law by itself to infer any relationship

Re: [Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
to believe them. There is a mountain to climb to convince the world, and they have not really helped that process. On 16 October 2014 11:41, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for posting your ideas. I hadn't seen that picture of the march 2013 reactor sitting on the scale with heating

Re: [Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
to the thermocouple end cap, otherwise the external tube would be broken by axial stress due to differential thermal expansion of higher temperature of inner tube compared to external tube. On 16 October 2014 10:58, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: ​If the wire inside the reactor was hot

Re: [Vo]:temperature of the resistor wire.

2014-10-15 Thread H Veeder
Another strange thing might be happening. Assuming the electrical input power measurements are correct, is there enough electrical power flowing through the wires to cause the wires external to the reactor to glow with the observed color?​ Harry

Re: [Vo]:Determining the transmittance . . . of semitransparent materials at elevated temperatures

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: A corespondent sent me this link: http://www.eurotherm2008.tue.nl/Proceedings_Eurotherm2008/papers/Radiation/RAD_6.pdf ​​ He commented: My interpretation of figure 6 is that the tranmissivity of alumina goes down

Re: [Vo]:Inconel f/H and SPP

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
what is SPP? Harry On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: In any event, there seems to be no good reason to eliminate the Inconel as being active, since it contains lots of nickel - especially in the context of SPP.

Re: [Vo]:Three hypotheses for Rossi mass spec results

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Broadly speaking, I think three explanation have been offered for the astounding mass spec results: 1. Tentative acceptance, or at least acceptance for the sake of argument. That, it seems to me, is McKubre's

Re: [Vo]:Determining the transmittance . . . of semitransparent materials at elevated temperatures

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
camera is measuring. So there could be visible shadows / glowing resistors seen through the ceramic, but the IR calculations are OK. -- *From: *H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, October 13, 2014 11:27:44 PM He commented: My interpretation of figure 6

Re: [Vo]:Engineering and materials issues with high temperature hot-cat Lugano demo

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Another point has to do with how the heat is conveyed from a LENR reaction. Since the LENR reaction is likely a nano-scale event, heat must be conveyed from the reaction in a way that doesn't make the NAE the

Re: [Vo]:Engineering and materials issues with high temperature hot-cat Lugano demo

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:21 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Can we refocus this thread into discussion about the construction of the latest reactor? For example: - Why do we think the end

[Vo]:OT: The Phone Cops

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
The phone cops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTPzTG1Lx60 Harry

Re: [Vo]:Inconel f/H and SPP

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
over 10 years ago that SPP can produce nuclear reactions. Paper is on LENR-CANR *From:* H Veeder what is SPP? Harry In any event, there seems to be no good reason to eliminate the Inconel as being active, since it contains lots of nickel - especially in the context of SPP.

[Vo]:NBC News article on Fusion Mentions E-Cat (Not Negatively)

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/14/nbc-news-article-on-fusion-mentions-e-cat-not-negatively/ Harry

Re: [Vo]:An expert reviewed and approves of this configuration

2014-10-14 Thread H Veeder
So the heater coils in the 2013 test were embedded in ceramic sheath which covered a steel vessel. I was recalling the 2013 test as if the coils were inside the steel vessel. It all makes sense now. Harry On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Yes, sorry -- I was

Re: [Vo]:An expert reviewed and approves of this configuration

2014-10-13 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Figure 6 : this is complicated by transmission, which may be happening in the visible range. (IF the helical shadows are indeed images or shadows of the coiuls. But I still think they represent different conduction zones of

Re: [Vo]:An expert reviewed and approves of this configuration

2014-10-13 Thread H Veeder
. An alternating . In turn, most of the energy becomes heat in the high- resistance steel, while the driving coil stays cool. On Monday, October 13, 2014, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Figure 6 : this is complicated

Re: [Vo]:An expert reviewed and approves of this configuration

2014-10-13 Thread H Veeder
the fins? I have not studied the photos. On Monday, October 13, 2014, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The banded regions should absorb heat and in the long run reach the same temperature as their surroundings. The fact that they persist is a sign of something significant...and I don't

Re: [Vo]:another Law breaker?

2014-10-12 Thread H Veeder
ugh...my idiot twin wrote this. Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Another related thought experiment Consider the focusing of sunlight by a simple parabolic reflector. Why doesn't that constitute a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics which

[Vo]:Robert Godes comments on the report

2014-10-12 Thread H Veeder
Robert Godes from Brillouin comments: http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/734-Short-text-from-Robert-Godes-regarding-the-test/ Harry

Re: [Vo]:Incandescence is the wrong color

2014-10-12 Thread H Veeder
what is the other direction? (I am having hard time following the flow of thought in this particular thread) harry On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: How does the emissivity of the alumina effect the optical appearance with regard to color? Is it

Re: [Vo]:Incandescence is the wrong color

2014-10-12 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:43 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I refer to the opposite effect in this case Harry. In other words, can the color appear to be too dark in the visual region to our eyes compared to the emission of thermal energy in the IR. Are there surfaces that

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-11 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 9:48 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Especially if they switch to a pulse mode where they are not really heating directly anymore, the pulses are working like an induction stovetop

Re: [Vo]:Video of the test

2014-10-11 Thread H Veeder
I can see it now ...and infrared picture of Rossi on the cover of TIME. lol Harry On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Fig 3 clearly shows a camera in the top-left, with a (temporary?) cable strung from it, aimed

Re: Isotope conversion completeness, was RE: [Vo]:Pomp weighs in

2014-10-11 Thread H Veeder
Can this be used to challenge Pomp's claim that the ash was faked by commercially available enriched isotopes? Most people on this list seem to be very good about raising technical objections to criticisms of the calorimetry, but they counter Pomp's claim with non-technical arguments about how it

Re: Isotope conversion completeness, was RE: [Vo]:Pomp weighs in

2014-10-11 Thread H Veeder
this would be possible to fake even with tremendous effort. So, rather than providing evidence of fraud, I very much believe that this isotope fractionation gradient clearly indicates that some kind of nuclear reaction is taking place in during this experiment. -Bob *From:* H Veeder

Re: [Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
As far as I know the biggest source of coal pollution comes from coal fired electricity plants. However, Tom Darden seems to be talking about coal burning just for heat. I suppose this is still a major problem in China. Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Blaze Spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad they published this report. They were under no obligation to do so. We are beggars and beggars cannot be choosers. ​This is another reason why most scientists will ignore this report because they see

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
It is worth noting that some FP cells got hot enough to boil off the electrolytic solution and then remained hot for a while. Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Very perceptive and a great insight into why the test was setup the way that it was. Rossi

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
The issue of translucency would alter the absolute power calculations but wouldn't the relative difference between input and output power remain roughly the same and therefore the COP too? Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: At 03:48 PM 10/10/2014, you

Re: [Vo]:Halo lithium was:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to H Veeder's message * Maybe it can all be done with shrunken lithium... Lithino ... or maybe the apparent Rossi reaction of Ni58 - Ni 62 can be

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This transparency to infrared photons must be why Rossi uses this ceramic material to get heat unencumbered to his powder. Rossi is clever. ​Or maybe it allows more infrared photons to escape unencumbered once the reactor

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: At 06:14 PM 10/10/2014, H Veeder wrote: The issue of translucency would alter the absolute power calculations but wouldn't the relative difference between input and output power remain roughly the same and therefore the COP

Re: [Vo]:another Law breaker?

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
Another related thought experiment Consider the focusing of sunlight by a simple parabolic reflector. Why doesn't that constitute a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics which (according to one of the many equivalents formulations) says heat cannot flow from a cold to hot region without an

[Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
Elforsks CEO: Let's move on with research on LENR http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3854541.ece google translation of swedish: Elforsk takes now the initiative to build a comprehensive Swedish research initiative. More knowledge is needed to understand and explain. Let us engage more

Re: [Vo]:Pomp weighs in

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
Stephen Pomp asserts that it is possible to use commercially available isotopes to make an ash sample that gives the same values as measured in the report. Setting aside the issues of how Rossi would switch samples and his motivation for doing so, we should ask if Pomp is exaggerating the

Re: [Vo]:[Rossi TR#2] Reactor close down : all Li and Ni converted. Coincidentally?

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: There are so many transmutation threads going on that I'm not sure if this was posted : Rodney Nicholson October 8th, 2014 at 5:05 PM 2) It seems that in the ITP test the content of 58Ni was reduced almost to zero

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
A statement about the report in Swedish and English on the Elforsk website: http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-Matrapport-publicerad/ Harry On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: THIS is the kind of response I was hoping to see! Elforsk takes now the initiative

[Vo]:Lithium

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium Isotopes Naturally occurring lithium is composed of two stable isotopes, 6Li and 7Li, the latter being the more abundant (92.5% natural abundance).[3][13][23] Both natural isotopes have anomalously low nuclear binding energy per nucleon compared to the next

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
Maybe it can all be done with shrunken lithium... ...Lithino harry On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com My guess as to how it works:- Hydrinohydride is a small heavy negative particle with a mass about

Re: [Vo]:Experimental Test of a Thermodynamic Paradox

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
engine (Seebeck device).* We can further discuss if found interesting enough. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:25 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The Paradigm Energy website is now empty (although you can still download the papers at the links given on the MFMP page). In the comments

[Vo]:Mats Lewan describes the ash extraction

2014-10-09 Thread H Veeder
http://matslew.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/interview-on-radio-show-free-energy-quest-tonight/#comment-3469 I don’t have details minute by minute, but I was told one member of the team together with Rossi and a technician opened the reactor in a closed room. A diamond saw had to be used to cut some

[Vo]:Mats Lewan story on the new third party report

2014-10-08 Thread H Veeder
New scientific report on the E-Cat shows excess heat and nuclear process http://matslew.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/new-scientific-report-on-the-e-cat-shows-excess-heat-and-nuclear-process/ ​Harry​

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat Report Leaked- Sweden

2014-10-08 Thread H Veeder
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Unfortunately there are some nuclear proliferation issues involved. ​In what way ?​ ​Harry​

Re: [Vo]:Pomp weighs in

2014-10-08 Thread H Veeder
Jed, don't you think it is strange that the isotopic composition of the ash closely resembles what is commercially available. Also the ash is free of other elements that were present before the run. That would make sense if the ash came from a commercial source which didn't contain these elements.

Re: [Vo]:Pomp weighs in

2014-10-08 Thread H Veeder
It is strange if the ash contents really do resemble what is available commercially. ​I read one suggestion on facebook, that the reactor could contian special compartments like a magician's trick box . One thing goes in and a different thing comes out depending on how the box is manipulated.​

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