RE: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
So adept at stating the obvious. You're about as useful as tits on a bullfrog. -m From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit? How do you figure that from those posts? I'll

RE: [Vo]:CF as a historical phenomenon

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
MY wrote: I can also determine if proper scientific method has most likely been followed. Rossi and Defkalion fail *miserably* in both categories I know about. You can't fail at something that you never agreed to achieve. Rossi has said from the out-set (i.e., January 2010) that he was

RE: [Vo]:Thermacore reported heat well above recombination

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary: Despite the fact that you have only been following CF/LENR for a year, whereas most of the regulars on Vortex have been following it since 1989, you should at least have a clue that there are 22 years of some very revealing HISTORY behind CF/LENR, and much of it does NOT reflect well on the

RE: [Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory.

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Hi Horace, You stated: Note that this also represents a pressure to the vacuum of 5.8678x10^111 Pa. Which ties in perfectly with my qualitative model of the vacuum as a medium which is under extreme tension or pressure, but with extremely little viscosity. Thus, if you were to 'strike' a

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Hate to sound paranoid, but, do you get the feeling like someone is watching us? :-) Which reminds me of Feynman's story about being in the military's recruiting office... -mark -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:39 PM

RE: [Vo]:Acceleration Under Load

2011-12-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I think I've watched all of Thane's vids and from what I remember, there is a lower limit (RPM) where the acceleration will not happen, but if you start at, or above, that RPM, then shorting the coils causes very significant acceleration (IIRC, 100rpm/sec) from say 1700 RPM to over 3000. I

[Vo]: Resonances, cont'd

2011-12-12 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
FYI: See excerpt at end of message for more evidence for what I've been thinking of for 30 years, and harping on here for the last year or more. J Point of interest: The nanoclusters only formed when a specific amount of heat was present. which means that that specific amount of heat caused

RE: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mass in must = mass out, or else pressure inside would steadily increase. From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:19 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi? I never found a way to make vapor carry more than

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary, and many LENR-under-informed or patho-skeptics, point to things like this as evidence to support their beliefs: Nor is there any evidence that Defkalion, as they claimed, provided devices to the Greek authorities for safety and efficacy testing and certification. A member of the Greek

RE: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Yes, I would expect the pressure to increase slightly until the reactor reached steady state, but after that, and over the course of 6+ hours, if mass in NOT= mass out, then pressure would increase to dangerous levels (if not explosive) since the volume ratio between liquid water and water as

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary: You should read the entire thread which ended with the following exchange between me and Terry: Mark Iverson: Didn't they change the location to Cypress? Or was that just rumor? I tend to gloss over the non-technical details. Terry Blanton: Defkalion Green Technologies is

RE: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Peter: Thanks for taking time to RAISE the SNR! What can we conclude from your analysis? Well, at first reading, it seems reasonable, so it is at least helpful and might swing the 'accuracy meter' a little over to Rossi's favor, however, I don't think its conclusive. But that seems to be the

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary wrote: That none of this appears to be true is indeed evidence-- evidence that Defkalion was lying. NO, IT IS NOT EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE LYING! There are a number of explanations which are just as plausible: - knowledge of the application's existence has not made it up to

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
...@gmail.com On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: So, has anyone checked to see if Defkalion has filed an application with the appropriate agency on Cypress??? Probably not... at least not yet! Except that Defkalion specifically said

RE: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
-Original Message- From: Peter Heckert [mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:37 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model Am 11.12.2011 21:51, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: Peter: Thanks for taking time to RAISE the SNR

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
at 10:58 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mary, and many LENR-under-informed or patho-skeptics, point to things like this as evidence to support their beliefs Name calling now? Nice. What, exactly is a patho-skeptic? Someone who doubts a convicted felon who makes extravagant

RE: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
-Original Message- From: Peter Heckert [mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:10 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model Am 11.12.2011 22:57, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: Peter: There's a bit of a language barrier here

RE: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary wrote: Someone who doubts a convicted felon who makes extravagant claims and then won't provide definitive proof that is extremely easy, safe and cheap to come by? Oh brother. not that again. As usual, the material regarding Rossi's questionable history has been rehashed numerous times

[Vo]: FYI: ...modifying the very character of the interactions

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Some news about engineering atomic interactions, which ties in with my contention that nuclear and electron interactions can be achieved at much lower energies if one knows what frequencies and harmonic relationships are involved: Atoms dressed with light show new interactions, could reveal

RE: [Vo]:RFC: Localised Electrodynamic Lattice reaction hypothesis

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
GJB: If your hypothesis started with some (peer-reviewed, or not) references, could you please provide some links or abstracts on those? -Mark From: GJB [mailto:kiw...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:16 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:RFC: Localised Electrodynamic

RE: [Vo]:Jeds comment on Polywater...well...

2011-12-10 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Couldn't agree more Ron. I guess Jed didn't see my posting on this over a year ago regarding Dr. Gerald Pollack's talk on structured water titled, Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge That presentation can be seen on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVBEwn6iWOo

RE: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

2011-12-10 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Normally I would also agree, however, the way things are going in this country, I don't think the Fed'l govt would care one iota, and the courts either, if they regulated something that another Dept of the govt deemed impossible... hell, I think it wouldn't even need to be diff't Depts... or,

RE: [Vo]:Yo: Peter Heckert! Is a 0.1 mm gap a problem or not?

2011-12-09 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary: If you have a PayPal acct, I will gladly donate $20 to the cause. Just so the people funding the effort and the person performing the tests all agree beforehand, Can someone put together a brief document with: -tests to perform -rough diagram of the test setup -

RE: [Vo]:Attenuation of decay rate in E-Cat

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Axil: Let me take a stab at your question: Why should coherent protons be any better at thermalizing gamma radiation than ordinary protons? (Especially if that coherence is limited to pairs). The coherent photons are acting as a resonant antenna. I'm sure many have played around with

RE: [Vo]:Will tests surface mounted thermocouples on pipe

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary yet again proves that there are now 101 ways to say the same thing. we all agree the tests could have been done much better with little effort. I think that's enough repetition that most readers know your opinion on the issue. Stop wasting bandwidth and our time unless it's a point you

RE: [Vo]:Will tests surface mounted thermocouples on pipe

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
at 10:07 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mary yet again proves that there are now 101 ways to say the same thing. we all agree the tests could have been done much better with little effort. I think that's enough repetition that most readers know your opinion on the issue

RE: [Vo]:Will tests surface mounted thermocouples on pipe

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary: Regarding why I don't mind the comments from people proposing possible ways it IS happening. Most of those postings are providing some models, some calculations. something of substance which, although however speculative, at least that speculation is backed by some numbers. Would

RE: [Vo]:Purchase of a 1 MW high temp E-Cat plant

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
What can we do if Rossi is wrong? As much as you want! Rossi is one out of hundreds of people who have worked with LENR, so we can support others so they can continue the work, learn the physics so it can be optimized and controlled, so a definitive test can be done. In the meantime, I

RE: [Vo]:Purchase of a 1 MW high temp E-Cat plant

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Purchase of a 1 MW high temp E-Cat plant I meant what to do to Rossi ! G On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: What can we do if Rossi is wrong? As much as you want! Rossi is one out of hundreds of people

RE: [Vo]:Attenuation of decay rate in E-Cat

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Hi Robin, Sorry, guess I was focusing on the question, not the questioner!! :-) Let me deal with the second question first, and I'll follow up tomorrow on Q1. Robin's second question: 2) If such ensembles are fleeting, then one might expect at least some gamma rays to escape, yet few to none

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
. -Mark From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
? -mark From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:40 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I would have thought with my clear statements about using extremely intense magnetic fields and smashing particles head on at extremely high velocities, it would have

RE: [Vo]: Of Rydberg and Radiofrequencies...

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
In addition, the RF would have a near instantaneous effect, whereas Mary's suggestion would have a very significant time-lag. thus, as Axil pointed out, a much greater likelihood of runaway. From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:36 AM To:

RE: [Vo]: Of Rydberg and Radiofrequencies...

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
06, 2011 10:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Of Rydberg and Radiofrequencies... On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: In addition, the RF would have a near instantaneous effect, whereas Mary's suggestion would have a very

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: JC: Thx for the explanations, relevant or not, however, I still think that the discussion wandered from my

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
at 2:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: The END RESULT is brute force smashing things together. there is NO resonance in that! That is, and always has been, my point. The actual interaction of the particles is by brute force, NOT RESONANCE. Collisions can be resonant too

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Nope, let me look into it... thx. -Mark From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Mark Iverson

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Nope, let

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
JC wrote: Say what? That's just gibberish. I seriously doubt that Zawodny has any idea what that sentence means, if it means anything at all. A physical effect is allowed by a breakdown in a mathematical approximation? What that sentence does is make people's eyes glaze over, and think it sounds

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Joshua wrote: So, random atomic motion representing a fraction of an eV per atom is somehow supposed to be concentrated by a factor of much more than a million by some resonant phenomenon. ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE. You are reasoning from the physics of brute force, which is all that nuclear

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
, December 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint posted a study on Rydberg matter a few weeks ago which stated that this special form of exotic hydrogen (alkali matter) can amplify

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I wholeheartedly disagree with your statement, Resonance is very much a part of brute force physics. I think I need to explain resonance to you. Resonance is an interesting phenomenon where SMALL INputs of force or energy into a system results in VERY LARGE OUTputs. There is nothing

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Thx for taking time to post that reference Axil. I'm visually oriented, so some of the charts do look familiar. -m From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA

RE: [Vo]:Ni producer

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Whoa, ALL the shares? That is a most unusual transaction... Swiss company, eh... wanna bet they've been talking to Essen and Kulander? Looks like the LENR-energy-generation equivalent of OPEC will be in Switzerland! This is getting more and more interesting by the day... -m -Original

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Cude replied with the following 'reasonable sounding' rebuttal, but it is faulty at a fundamental level. It is not a valid comparison... I think he was just accusing someone else of that same thing. I guess it depends what you mean by brute force physics. To me, when I push a child on a

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-04 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
The only set of slide notes in the presentation said the following about WLT: The theory makes specific, testable predictions. Predictions that can be inexpensively verified. -mark

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]: Defkalion: We have Rossi's formula

2011-11-29 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Key statement by DGT in the Ny Teknik article is the following: It's very simple but they didn't think about it. (...) We solved the problem. Because the problem is that he cannot spread the reaction all over the pipe, and all the heating is concentrated in the middle, Xanthoulis told Ny Teknik.

RE: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Patrick Ellul asks: Is there anyone else who is game enough to put his real identity behind this? I think what would include most anyone on this list, except Mary, and perhaps Cude. To hide behind the veil of anonymity on a discussion group such as this is cowardly. I have

RE: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Being the sensitive, compassionate person that I am, how about we all contribute to Mary's share, so this costs her no $, after all, these are financially trying times. I'll contribute $20 to the possibility of Mary Yugo whoever she really is losing her anonymity. Any takers? -mark From:

RE: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Wouldn't that be a hoot if it was good ol Dr. Mills. I hear BLP had to cut back on space heating to save money, and their technology is a little behind schedule, and over budget! :-) -Mark

RE: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Wait a minute... Hey, AussieGuy, is Aussie your first or last name? :-) Can't remember if you've identified yourself to the Vort Collective or not!! Come on, what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Or vice-a-versa... -Mark

RE: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-27 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary, you must be real naïve about the business environment… You claim that, “Ripoffs are far from inevitable and in fact rarely happen from big companies when dealing with established inventions and inventors. And when it does happen, the companies often end up losing in court-- losing big.

RE: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

2011-11-27 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary, As is typical with your MO, you're shooting from the hip. You just make up stuff so it appears you have rebutted a person's points, and in this case, you've really f*cked up. The part you chose to miss is that Kearns was a precedent. You missed the whole meaning of the

RE: [Vo]:Elevated-temperature excess heat production in a Pd D system in 1991

2011-11-27 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
World demand for nickel peaked in 2006 at 1.4 million tonnes; it is now down to about 1M tonnes. 300K tons is not going to be that hard to supply... and the transition from petroleum-based energy to CF/LENR (if it happens, and is not delayed for decades by legal battles) will ramp up over

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-25 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
slides (mostly in Swedish) On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Can you read English? Please show me where I was advocating one of those dubious breakthroughs! I wasn't advocating anything. How you got that notion from my posting is a mystery

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-25 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish) On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Mary wrote: “If I call you to come see I can fly and I sit there and flap my arms, and I do this or different people do

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Peter wrote: Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something that Rossi seemingly not understands. I can't believe these kinds of statements are still made! What Peter doesn't understand, and has been mentioned by numerous people, numerous

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
No one is suggesting we ignore it! And who's to say that one of those magnet motors or water cars doesn't do what is claimed? This forum is primarily interested in discussing the facts and evidence, preferably with supporting references and calculations, in order to establish the level of

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities here: 1) Mary is aware of this and purposely is spreading mis-information, 2) Mary isn't aware

RE: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Good one Terry! -m -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 1:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: It is SELDOM a black or white situation. just because past claims of magnet motors and water cars have been shown to be mistaken or fraudulent, doesn't mean that ALL such claims can be concluded to be the same. IF you think that, then you

RE: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Thanks Mary! That is a welcome contribution!! Happy Thanksgiving, -mark From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre Link below is to the first

RE: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Akira: Just want to thank you for taking time to monitor what's being said at various websites and then taking time to update the Vort Collective... it is much appreciated! -Mark -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23,

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Avian Recipes

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
... and pathological skeptics. One person's True Believer is another person's Pathological Skeptic. -mark -Original Message- From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:08 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Avian Recipes On Wed,

RE: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

2011-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
AG: Correct, and Cude is guilty of the same kind of statements... in one post he states that there has been NO improvement in CF/LENR evidence at all since 1989. This is total BS... just look at Jed's website for hundreds of papers, many of which have heat in excess of 10 to 100 times the

RE: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

2011-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company! On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: in one post he states

RE: [Vo]: UK's DECC Monitoring the sector (LENR)

2011-11-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary stated, In other words, they don't believe Rossi either, on the evidence that he's provided. You're so adept at pointing out the obvious. -m From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: UK's DECC

RE: [Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
The internet has provided a critical impulse of momentum to the E-Cat saga... Now the cart is rolling downhill and has run over the horse! The ONLY thing that will stop it is a tree (clear evidence that the E-Cat is all a scam). Like the Prez of Iceland recently said, The internet is more

[Vo]: Why did Rossi use the RF generator??? Hi-frequency electrolysis paper out.

2011-11-01 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
At Physics Today. http://physicstoday.org/resource/1/phtoad/v64/i11/p17_s1 High-frequency electrolysis begets spontaneously combusting nanobubbles The key is to feed the bubbles a balanced diet of hydrogen and oxygen before they have a chance to grow. Ashley G. Smart November 2011, page

RE: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
David Roberson wrote: I recall an old phrase attributed to Sherlock Holmes along the lines of Once all of the probable answers have been proven wrong, then it must be the improbable. Someone among the vortex will correct my phrase and that is a good thing. My wording is incorrect, but that is

RE: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Dave Roberson asks: “What happens to the energetic gammas that are generated by the transitions between states? They seem to gloss over that detail and talk about some unusual mechanism that converts them into infrared radiation. It would be an incredible coincidence for all of these gammas

[Vo]: Some more Sherlockiana...

2011-10-30 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag? Thanks, I knew I could count on the vortex! -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint mailto:zeropo...@charter.net zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 30

RE: [Vo]:Lewan and other observers unable to confirm claims

2011-10-29 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
At least the thermocouples were placed by the company’s engineer and not Rossi... -mark

[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Fw: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!‏

2011-10-29 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
And those kinds of gensets have watt-hour meters as well… -m From: John Harris [mailto:jfhar...@dodo.com.au] Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:33 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Fw: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!‏ If I where running the test I would

[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Rossi's customer

2011-10-25 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
That would make sense due to the excellent LENR research done by the Navy's SPAWAR facility in San Diego. I'm sure a number of high-ranking Navy officers (decision makers) are well aware of SPAWAR's work. Perhaps the 'agreement' states that the technology would be used strictly (yeah, right)

[Vo]: more progress on the 'electron strobe-light'

2011-10-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
In the continuing saga of learning what's really happening at the atomistic scale and time-frame, here's a recent article about research which is helping to eliminate what we PERCEIVE as the electron's motion, and replacing it with what is REALLY happening:

RE: [Vo]: more progress on the 'electron strobe-light'

2011-10-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
-Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:20 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]: more progress on the 'electron strobe-light' In the continuing saga of learning what's really happening at the atomistic scale and time

RE: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark

2011-10-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
There's only one thing to say about all this. mBeep, beep. -m From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:03 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson

RE: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power

2011-10-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
No... just one hellacious fog bank hangin over the city... which hasn't happened since the university was built! Just a coincidence... :-) -Mark -Original Message- From: Peter Heckert [mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de] Has anybody seen big amounts of steam at Bologna? Or anamalous heat

RE: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power

2011-10-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I beg to differ most strenuously with Mr. Murray's statement: ...largely CF believing community of Vortex-L... Rich, you've been a contributor to this group for quite some time as well. If you haven't noticed by now you aren't as observant as you think. The main thing that attracted me to the

RE: [Vo]:How to make Nickel Nano Powder.

2011-10-23 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Peter wrote: The Nickel oxide powder is reduced to nickel in hydrogen atmosphere under high pressure and high temperature. What nobody noticed is that the janitor accidentally knocked the heater plug from the wall, but since the thing still heats up, who would have thought to look! They've been

[Vo]: Changing the subject... nuclear-to-electrical, Cockcroft and Walton

2011-10-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've had enough of the E-Cat fiasco until the end of the month. I was going thru some old papers and found an s.p.f newsgroup article from 1991. yes, I'm kind of a pack-rat when it comes to sci-tech stuff. The article was posted by Bill Goffe at the

RE: [Vo]:Forbes weighs in on the controversial Rossi's eCat phenomenon

2011-10-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Peter left out one minor detail... The purpose of a scam is to make money at other people's expense... If the 1MW demo fails, nobody gets paid, and Rossi has just FLUSHED his entire net worth down the drain. Peter, answer the question as to why Rossi would flush his money down the drain. He

RE: [Vo]:Primary Flow Calculation

2011-10-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Hi Dave, Anyone who goes thru the trouble of providing calcs to support their position is most welcome! This is a tough, but for the most part, fair and objective collection of characters. not to mention that some of them have been around for near 2 decades on this forum. strong opinions,

RE: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stemmenos from Defkalion GT

2011-10-14 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
The sad thing about the conflict between DGT and Rossi is that even if they BOTH had all the resources necessary to mass produce the E-Cat, if they shared their knowledge with each other, the demand is so great that they BOTH could run the manufacturing plants 24/7 and make billions... there is

RE: [Vo]:OT: Pendulum Waves

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Hi Steven... Mr. Margolin's house pics don't look like southern Nevada at all... I think he is here in Reno because the weblink for his house pics has a folder named 'vch', which is most likely Virginia City Highlands, which is a rural housing development about 20 mins out of Reno to the

RE: [Vo]:OT: Pendulum Waves

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Further reading confirmed my suspicions... http://www.jmargolin.com/vch/myhouse.htm The new house I bought is in Virginia City Highlands, about 22 miles South East of Reno and 5 miles North of Virginia City. -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... -mark

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
do not think that is accurate. -mark -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:20 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... -mark

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Higgins -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins However, I'm not sure if he's got the dimensions of the heat spreaders correct. From all

[Vo]: Dennis Ritchie passes

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
For all you fellow code monkeys out there... Dennis Ritchie died. The inventor of C, designer of a universal language syntax, and a major contributor to UNIX died this week at the age of 60. -m

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
to terminate anyway. Regards, Bob Higgins -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Hi Bob, I think all us Vorts appreciate the time you've put

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Hi Horace, Sorry! I didn't mean to be a pest, but I didn't even get an ACK that indicated you had seen my post (or personal email) about this issue... next time, if possible, just a quick note to indicate that you saw the post or email and are working on it... for a trivial issue I wouldn't care,

[Vo]: William Corliss passes...

2011-10-12 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
FYI for all the ol'timer Vorts. http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/corliss-obit/ For all the newcomers, you might want to read about the librarian of the anomalous. -Mark

RE: [Vo]: William Corliss passes...

2011-10-12 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Sorry bout that. I now see that the article was earlier this year. July 12. -m From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:35 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]: William Corliss passes... FYI for all the ol'timer Vorts. http

[Vo]: When is a square, not a square?

2011-10-12 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Look at all the pictures of the heat-spreader inside the E-Cat, and tell me that the shape of the finned structure is a square and not a rectangle. Now, do you think that Lewan's dimensions for that structure 30 x 30 x 30 are right? -mark

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

2011-10-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Why doesn't Mills FINISH JUST ONE PRODUCT AND GET IT TO MARKET! He's like a little kid who gets 90% done with something and then gets bored with it and is off to some new and challenging puzzle... never completing what he starts. The only other explanation is that he's not able to get his

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

2011-10-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Both Harry and Robert are missing Jed's point... In order for their thermos analogy to be a proper analogy, it would have to say this: Take a Thermos bottle and insert a thermocouple about 1/3rd of the way into it. Pour in boiling water to fill up the thermos to 1/2 way. The steam generated

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

2011-10-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
SVJ responded: OTOH, to be fair to BLP, it's my understanding that the facility is not financially structured to creating prototypes for industry and consumers. Just proof-of-concept experimental devices that aren't in their own right something that can be commercialized - not without a lot of

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