Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

The latest analog black hole experiment done in Israel has extracted phonic energy as Hawking radiation from the vacuum. https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-stimulated-hawking-radiation-in-a-lab-analogue-of-a-black-hole We Just Got Lab-Made Evidence of Stephen Hawking's Greatest

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2019 02:28:29 +: Hi Bob, [snip] >Robin- > > > >During NMR isomeric transitions, nuclear species are stimulated with a radio >frequency EM field to gain kinetic spin energy in the form of increased >angular momentum in small

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Robin- During NMR isomeric transitions, nuclear species are stimulated with a radio frequency EM field to gain kinetic spin energy in the form of increased angular momentum in small quanta of angular momentum—each quantum being equal to h/2pie. An ambient magnetic field would change the

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

D* owns a deep orbit 2.15pm (Holmlid)In SO(4)this halve of that (1.07pm) like electron too. From the 7-Li-H* reaction we know that the deep shell electron binds to the nuclear flux too. Of course there are still many open questions but if you understand the mass structure e.g. of Deuterium I

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:19:02 +: Hi, [snip] >For example, spin energy transitions within a coupled “coherent” system may >not entail any radiation at all, if there is a perfect conservation of angular >momentum during the LENR event. Of course

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:15:44 +0200: Hi, [snip] >K shells are not usually vacant, so such an electron would still upset >things. Regards, > >You miss the point! If you increase the nuclear charge by +2 then >exactly 2 k-shell electrons are missing! True, I

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Robin— If the electron is slow enough, I would guess it very well may react with other atomic electrons and be absorbed producing a charge on the system and a small increase in phonic energy. For all practical purposes it would not be observed except for a small charge , accumulated with

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Axil— Gamma radiation is by definition generated by a nuclear transition from one energy state to another. I is not necessarily of Mev intensity. In contrast x-rays are by definition are produced by atomic electronic transitions from one energy state to another. However a nuclear

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

K shells are not usually vacant, so such an electron would still upset things. Regards, You miss the point! If you increase the nuclear charge by +2 then exactly 2 k-shell electrons are missing! (If you understand the energy levels ...) Jürg Wyttenbach Am 24.07.19 um 04:46 schrieb

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:39:48 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Bob > >One reason why the D* path is working like adding +2p/2e could be that >the internal electron from the neutron only needs to do a little push to >get to the k-shell. Thus no need to emit an electron! K

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:39:57 -0400: Hi, [snip] >If a nuclear reaction (fusion) was responsible for the transmutation, >wouldn't gamma radiation be produced? Not necessarily as much as you might expect. It depends on the actual reaction. If there are particles

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

If a nuclear reaction (fusion) was responsible for the transmutation, wouldn't gamma radiation be produced? On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:35 PM wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:41:51 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm > > >

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:41:51 -0400: Hi, [snip] >http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm > >Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction. > >The productivity of the transmutation was a function of the ambient >temperature of the solution.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction. The productivity of the transmutation was a function of the ambient temperature of the solution. 75C produced the most transmutation. Note that there was no report of a heating

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Bob One reason why the D* path is working like adding +2p/2e could be that the internal electron from the neutron only needs to do a little push to get to the k-shell. Thus no need to emit an electron! But LENR definitely is fascinating for people doing real experiments as it might be the

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Jurg— Electrons are also emitted to conserve charge, Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jürg Wyttenbach Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:09:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:If

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Jurg— Those are good LENR examples. Thanks for the clarification. Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jürg Wyttenbach Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:09:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

This is my favorite experiment: Radioactive decay half-life acceleration cause by time dilation Reference: https://arxiv.org/abs/1112 Accelerated alpha-decay of 232U isotope achieved by

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

So which gammas are emitted in the first case, and what would you expect if the reaction were 7-Li + H* --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He? H* is p+e that get both added. This was my first key finding about 3 years ago. You can look this explanation (gammas) up in my very old writeup about LENR or in the

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:09:51 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Two simple samples: > >7-Li + H* --> 8Li --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He. (Lipinski reaction) > >105Pd +D* -->107Cd --> 107Ag classic P > >You can identify the decay paths by the typical gammas emitted. So which gammas are

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Hello Jürg, How do you witness the reaction 107Cd->107Ag ? Arnaud -Original Message- From: Jürg Wyttenbach Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2019 18:10 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices Two simple

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Two simple samples: 7-Li + H* --> 8Li --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He. (Lipinski reaction) 105Pd +D* -->107Cd --> 107Ag classic P You can identify the decay paths by the typical gammas emitted. To learn about this use. https://www-nds.iaea.org/relnsd/vcharthtml/VChartHTML.html Most of the time the

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 19 Jul 2019 23:05:52 +0200: Hi, [snip] >In nuclear transformation (LENR) D* adds like a double proton and H* >adds like a neutron. That's what we see (exactly measure) from the gamma >radiation signature of complex reactions. Could you give a

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to JonesBeene's message of Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:14:19 -0700: Hi, [snip] >“The energy release per atom would be useful, to narrow down the >possibilities.” > >Yes. No doubt this detail would be very useful to know, but is it even >possible to know? I think that with careful work, it is

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Am 19.07.19 um 19:32 schrieb Jones Beene: Which is to say: until we get mass spec readings for significant amounts of helium after a long run, fusion remains just a fall-back assumption based on old electrolysis results - and possibly unjustified for anything else. Surprisingly, even with a

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

The elements transmuted by the LENR reaction are usually calcium, magnesium, sulfur, carbon, iron, aluminum. Helium is not usually found. In nature, supernova nucleosynthesis: the nucleosynthesis of chemical elements in supernova explosions are the usual nature generators of these heavier

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > In the Mizuno case we can exclude this behavior, as clustered D-D, inside larger clusters, always will undergo fusion... Always? ... doubt it. There is no evidence from Mizuno of helium and it makes no sense to be dogmatic on the issue until evidence arrives. Which

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Jones— I agree with your observation regarding multiple simultaneous events and the apparent lack of the involvement of single nuclei in a LENR event. Magnetic coupling between multiple particles (nucleons and atomic and or plasmonic electrons or other magnetic dipoles) can allow sharing

RE: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Jurg- Thanks for that instructive reference to the Berkley etal. Paper. It suggests likely plasma LENFR mechanisms and connects metal hydride LENR with the Rossi, Mills, ball lightening folks, etal. LENR like events. The list of references is also revealing as to who is doing the

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Am 19.07.19 um 17:14 schrieb JonesBeene: There are other alternative mechanisms for gain not involving fusion. These researchers  also suggest or imply that clustering “alone” can produce significant excess energy with no fusion  and/or a delayed nucleon annihilation event. Here, we

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAsceiIMY2I The question is "how can microorganisms produce enough power to transmute elements". The answer to this question could involve a global Bose condensate (BEC) that forms throughout the entire extent of the bug colony. This BEC connects each bug through

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

“The energy release per atom would be useful, to narrow down the possibilities.” Yes. No doubt this detail would be very useful to know, but is it even possible to know? Probably NOT as of now – since it makes a fundamental assumption which is not proved. That fundamental assumption is that

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

If it can be exactly calculated, why do you say "about 500 eV"? There are almost always different energies that couple. The formulas give the exact energies for then individual contributions but depending on the interaction you have to count in the change in charge induced classic potential

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:37:44 +0200: Hi, [snip] >In the Hydrogen LENR (?) the H-H --> H*-H* condensation produces about >500eV of magnetic potential energy due to SO(4)  spin coupling of the >perturbative proton mass. This can exactly be calculated. If it

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

As said: Most of the energy is coming from electron shrinkage, with the addition of the occasional nuclear reaction where the energy is carried by charged heavy particles and is primarily converted to heat. In the Hydrogen LENR (?) the H-H --> H*-H* condensation produces about 500eV of

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Axil Your nonsensical posts now hit the fan. If you ever had high school physics/mechanics you should understand why there can be no hard fusion radiation in LENR. The only exceptions are: Target nucleus unstable and overloading of the energy down scaling path. The later effect is what we

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

I believe that symmetry has had its day in the Sun. Physics has exploited symmetry for all that it is worth and now it is a completely dry hole. But I also believe that dualism the kissing cousin of symmetry has got some more insights to give to science. The dualism between superconductivity,

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 17 Jul 2019 17:08:50 -0400: Hi, [snip] >So fusion only occurs infrequently. But why then is there NEVER any >neutrons detected? Why are the the transmutation produces ALWAYS stable? 1) There are occasionally a few neutrons detected. Try searching for

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

So fusion only occurs infrequently. But why then is there NEVER any neutrons detected? Why are the the transmutation produces ALWAYS stable? On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:41 PM wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:28:37 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >Well that is simple. If

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:28:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Well that is simple. If fusion was was a viable ongoing process during the >LENR reaction, then there should be lots of gamma rays and neutrons >produced, and LENR experimenters would all be dead in short order. But

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Well that is simple. If fusion was was a viable ongoing process during the LENR reaction, then there should be lots of gamma rays and neutrons produced, and LENR experimenters would all be dead in short order. But LENR is safe as safe can be just like light coming from a light bulb. Please explain

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:10:15 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The one undeniable aspect of this ferrosilicon transmutation example is the >shear volume of unexplained material produced. In 11 weeks, an extra volume >of 327.25 tons of "anomalous" ferrosilicon output was

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

The one undeniable aspect of this ferrosilicon transmutation example is the shear volume of unexplained material produced. In 11 weeks, an extra volume of 327.25 tons of "anomalous" ferrosilicon output was unaccountably produced. Even a bookkeeper in the back-office could see that something is

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Dear Axil When the flowers of corruption intrude "so called" scientific journals, then we must ask about the seriousness of the people that allowed the "go on" for this publication. Did you ever think about what equipment is available to measure the load of furnace ?? "Friendly losses" are

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Dear Bob, We have been through this situation more than once. For some reason people just can;t believe it. I understand that it is difficult to flush 10 years of LENR theory down the toilet, but it must be done to get to the truth.

FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Dear Axil. I do not remember a mass balance analysis of the Indian foundry changes in total mass wjth apparent transmutations. I doubt the huge loss of mass you have suggested actually happened. Bob Cook From: Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

There is a natural tendency in the formulation of LENR theory to ignore or flat out deny the existence of outlying or contraindicated LENR processes that are generally observed and proven by observation but conflict with preconceived notions of LENR reality. One of these observations is

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 9:54 a.m. JonesBeene, wrote: > > > *From: *H LV > > > >- How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass >change? > > > > Is there any reason to think that it would not be all? > > > > Even if sequential hydrogen cluster formation is

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

From: H LV ➢ How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass change?  Is there any reason to think that it would not be all? Even if sequential hydrogen cluster formation is responsible for the gain, and there is no fusion at all - the ultimate source of that heat would

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Axil Axil wrote: > If the reactor stops producing heat at some later time, the fuel > consumption rate can be calculated and this data might indicate what energy > production mechanism is producing energy in the mesh reactor. > I have a feeling that might be caused by contamination rather than

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

One possible way to shed some new light on the fusion issue is to run an experiment were the pressure of deuterium is reduced slowly down toward the 1 pa limit to see how the rate of heat output behaves. Once a minimum sustainable pressure is determined where the mesh reactor still produces steady

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

If one is working with a quadrapole mass spec, and especially a small one like an RGA it will be impossible to devolve the peaks of 4He and D2. Only by being certain that little D2 is present by trapping it in a cold or getter trap on the way to the mass spec can one ever be certain that the

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

For 100kw/h about 1.2mg of deuterium are needed. If pressure is lower then the relative density of D (D2 gas) increases, somewhere between 0.15 & 0.45g/l.The inventory is given by Ni/pd surface bound D, the volume (15l) of the reactor and the pressure factor (=0.003 for 300Pa) . But Mizuno

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Reality Check. Surprisingly, nuclear fusion of deuterium into helium seems NOT sufficiently energetic to account for the Mizuno claim of heating his home. Mass is apparently being converted into energy, but how? And what are the ramifications of such a low reactor inventory of deuterium gas?