Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Via PESN:
Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and
developer of the one-megawatt cold fusion E-Cat plant, signed an
agreement with National Instruments (NI), to have them make all the
instrumentation for the E-Cat plants, which began
, he cannot use the NI Trademark.
He must get an own Trademark first.
- Original Nachricht
Von: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 11.11.2011 00:53
Betreff: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Via PESN:
Today
2011/11/11 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com
Rossi can write Ni powdered and NI powered whichever he prefers. ;-)
Now seriously unless the statement below is fake, which is unlikely,
the article must be taken for what it says: NI and Rossi have made a
deal.
Or better: Rossi
, possibly they have an engineer
named Fiovaranti ?
If she could confirm this, it would be nice
- Original Nachricht
Von: Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 11.11.2011 09:50
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat
On 2011-11-11 00:53, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and
developer of the one-megawatt cold fusion E-Cat plant, signed an
agreement with National Instruments (NI)
By the way, Daniele Passerini (22passi) knew about this partnership
since last
Do you know whether or Daniele knows who is the secret customer? In case
you don't know, can you ask him?
2011/11/11 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
On 2011-11-11 00:53, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and
developer of the
On 2011-11-11 10:59, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Do you know whether or Daniele knows who is the secret customer? In case
you don't know, can you ask him?
I think Daniele knows (quotes about a customer that cannot be fooled
were from him) but he is definitely not going to reveal who it is before
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
This means, if Rossi has no trademark, he cannot use the NI Trademark.
He must get an own Trademark first.
That is easy. Anyone can get a trademark for around $300 in the U.S.
- Jed
About N.I. involment this is what Daniele reports on 22passi:
Questa primavera National Instrument aveva chiesto silenzio sulla sua
disponibilità a sponsorizzare l'E-Cat di Rossi, ritenendo ancora
troppo controversa la sua invenzione. Ergo, se National Instrument è
uscita allo scoperto adesso,
Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
Ergo, se National Instrument è
uscita allo scoperto adesso, significa che anche loro hanno escluso
l'ipotesi (campata in aria) della bufala.
Ergo, if Nat. Instr. came out now, it
means that they too excluded the (too far fetched) hoax
Jed, there is a point when it is good for a company to be seen to be at the
forefront of a new technological movement. Maybe they have reached a
comfort level about the E-Cat now.where they can publicly say they are on
board with Rossi. If and when widespread validation comes NI will be in a
good
In the PESN postscript, it is quite obvious that NI is distancing itself from
any conclusions on authenticity. I added emphasis with the below:
PESN Postscript
On November 10, 2011 4:39 PM [MST], regarding the above story, I received the
following from Trisha McDonell | Corporate PR Manager |
I already have seen Labview on his Laptop.
This is a very efficient control system (made by NI)
Am 11.11.2011 01:18, schrieb David Roberson:
This is excellent news, and the ECAT will improve rapidly as a result
of this association. The lack of an adequate control system has
hampered every
Am 11.11.2011 16:06, schrieb Michele Comitini:
About N.I. involment this is what Daniele reports on 22passi:
Questa primavera National Instrument aveva chiesto silenzio sulla sua
disponibilità a sponsorizzare l'E-Cat di Rossi, ritenendo ancora
troppo controversa la sua invenzione. Ergo, se
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
About N.I. involment this is what Daniele reports on 22passi:
Questa primavera National Instrument aveva chiesto silenzio sulla sua
disponibilità a sponsorizzare l'E-Cat di Rossi, ritenendo ancora
troppo
If NI is the secret confidential customer, then it would be a bad
violation of confidentiality to spread these rumors.
So in any case this are bad news, true, or not true.
Only believe what NI says.
It was visible in earlier videos that Rossi has NI Labview on his computer.
This doesnt mean too
, 2011 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
In the PESN postscript, it is quite obvious that NI is distancing itself from
any conclusions on authenticity.
Naturally, they are distancing themselves
By the way, has anyone heard any peeps out of Mr. Parks lately? I bet he
and a lot of his cohorts are keeping a low profile. ;-)
Why would anyone keep a low profile because of Rossi?
:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
In the PESN postscript, it is quite obvious that NI is distancing itself
from any conclusions on authenticity.
Naturally, they are distancing themselves, but I
...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
By the way, has anyone heard any peeps out of Mr. Parks lately? I bet he and a
lot of his cohorts are keeping a low profile. ;-)
Why would anyone keep
Stay tuned for act two.
Dave
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To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com; Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com; Rich
Murray rmfor...@comcast.net
Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 12:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Well, if I had been so confident that cold fusion or LENR or what ever you
want to call it is impossible, I would feel quite foolish at the moment.
He spent many years of his career making fun of the serious researchers
operating within the field.
I'm not sure who will end up looking foolish
Mary raised the interesting point that NI will sell to anyone (even
Iran or Qadaffi, when legal).
But NI is less likely to negotiate a contract apparently _requiring_
that the NI name appear on the control
panel with just anyone.
As a scientist in a former life, I bought NI hardware and software
The deal with Rossi sounds much more like an OEM contract, and they are
very
likely to have done some diligence on it. Just the risk of adverse PR
(which they are already experiencing,
I suspect) would require a reasonable return on the cost of the perceived
risk.
What due diligence do you
Well, if I had been so confident that cold fusion or LENR or what ever you want
to call it is impossible, I would feel quite foolish at the moment. He spent
many years of his career making fun of the serious researchers operating within
the field.
I'm not sure who will end up looking
To prevent federal funds from being spent on research is going to
slow down the research. Do you not agree?
Yes. That's a pity. But it's sort of circular. If the evidence was
convincing, the funds would be there. You have to start somewhere. And
before we start on it, I don't know
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
If they suspected it is fraud they would be crazy to allow that press
release. They would issue a strong denial instead.
Most people who have not followed the progress of this story carefully
from the start have no reason to suspect a fraud. I think NI
I doubt that. In my experience, large corporations do not authorize press
releases without checking things out carefully. Anyone can do a Google
search and find out in a few seconds that Rossi is very controversial. I do
not think it is likely that the public relations department at National
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is likely that the public relations department at
National Instruments has not even bothered to do a Google search and they
have no idea whether Rossi's machines do what he says they do.
So exactly what do you think NI did and why? A
Am 11.11.2011 21:05, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
At any corporation, the public relations department will strive to
avoid any association with fraud, criminality or controversy. They
will not allow a press release which might harm the company image.
To put it bluntly, if Trisha McDonell, Corporate
Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Mary Yugo
Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:44:09 -0800
The deal with Rossi sounds much more like an OEM contract, and they are
very
likely to have done some diligence on it. Just the risk of adverse PR
(which they are already experiencing,
I
Thank you Sterling for allowing us to review. We approve the
text, especially the National Instruments portion of the story that
includes Stefano’s quote and information.
Oops. I see that memo is written to Allan. I guess he circulated it. I
though it was to David Ledin. If it is forged,
Mary Yugo wrote:
I never alleged or even implied that it's forged (talk about straw men!).
You didn't, but I did.
It was not a straw man because it was my own supposition.
I said it's probably meaningless and has no value in determining
whether or not Rossi's claims are real.
True and I
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, if I had been so confident that cold fusion or LENR or what ever you
want to call it is impossible, I would feel quite foolish at the moment. He
spent many years of his career making fun of the serious researchers
Like Mary Yugo, I've always wanted to see strong irrefutable evidence for a
CF anomaly -- heat, transmutation, radiations -- so it's good that many are
motivated worldwide for over two decades to be on the alert for anomalies
and to try novel setups -- even if it is decades before a reproducible
Via PESN:
Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and
developer of the one-megawatt cold fusion E-Cat plant, signed an
agreement with National Instruments (NI), to have them make all the
instrumentation for the E-Cat plants, which began commercial sales on
October 28,
10, 2011 6:54 pm
Subject: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Via PESN:
Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and
eveloper of the one-megawatt cold fusion E-Cat plant, signed an
greement with National Instruments (NI), to have them make all
Bravo!
I hope it is true.
This is exactly the right thing to do. You have to hand it to Rossi. He has
good technical judgement. Reckless, but good. Mizuno, Ohmori and
Fleischmann are the same way. McKubre says Fleischmann's experiments scared
the pants off of people.
A person does not design a
These guys (NI) know what they are doing. No BS with them. It works, it
works right and it works all the time. Brilliant move.
AG
On 11/11/2011 12:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Bravo!
I hope it is true.
This is exactly the right thing to do. You have to hand it to Rossi.
He has good
I just wish Rossi would pay more attention to needs of customers and to
PR.
I just wish he'd get a single independent and credible test done. Never
mind the PR stuff. As for the needs of customers, how do we know he ever
had one or has one?
If he has teamed up with NI, that is exactly the
: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
I just wish Rossi would pay more attention to needs of customers and to PR.
I just wish he'd get a single independent and credible test
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I wish Rossi would make a gift of one of his ECATs to Mary so that she could
perform all of the tests that she desires. I suspect that she would
complain that it did not look nice enough for her to dirty her hand upon
I wish Rossi would make a gift of one of his ECATs to Mary so that she
could perform all of the tests that she desires. I suspect that she would
complain that it did not look nice enough for her to dirty her hand upon
it. What is your agenda Mary?
Well, I do wish the devices didn't look
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Some people accuse me of being a paid agent. I only wish I were and someone
wanted to pay me. Who should I apply to? You think maybe Exxon? Standard
Oil? BP? General Atomic? General Electric? Heck no -- any of those
and similar devices without having to attack. Make positive
contributions and maybe the world will benefit.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E
Trisha McDonell trisha.mcdon...@ni.com, p...@ni.com
You can ask her to forward posts to Stefano Concezzi ...
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
If he has teamed up with NI, that is exactly the right way to bolster
customer confidence in the safety and reliability of the equipment.
I don't think he teamed up in the sense that NI knows anything about
E-cats and that they work. I think Rossi
Nachricht
Von: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 11.11.2011 00:53
Betreff: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Via PESN:
Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and
developer of the one-megawatt cold
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