http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19640013292_1964013292.pdf
This reference will give a comparison of hydrogen absorption between many
pure metals.
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/5277693-O8OUBl/native/5277693.pdf
From the reference
Tungsten is interesting stuff when used in cold fusion. Hydrogen does not
migrate or penetrate into it so many of the Brillouin and WL theories are
difficult to support when a tungsten lattice is used in cold fusion,
It also has a high melting point so very high temperatures can be produced
Foundation funds successful LENR Cold Fusion Project
Tungsten is interesting stuff when used in cold fusion. Hydrogen does not
migrate or penetrate into it so many of the Brillouin and WL theories are
difficult to support when a tungsten lattice is used in cold fusion,
It also has a high melting
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Is there much information supporting the case that tungsten works for
LENR? If it does, I wonder if the fact that it has several relatively long
lived isomers is related.
Do a search for tungsten in the LENR-CANR Google custom search box (at
the top
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Tungsten is interesting stuff when used in cold fusion. Hydrogen does
not migrate or penetrate into it so many of the Brillouin and WL theories
are difficult to support when a tungsten lattice is used in cold fusion,
consistent with the Rossi Reaction LOL - you must be kidding.
Potassium carbonate in this experiment indicates that this is a
Thermacore/Mills' reaction.
A reactor almost identical to this was patented by Thermacore 19 years ago.
On closer inspection, there is little unique here other than
One of the criticisms of this high school experiment will come frome and
will be based on the formation of various oxides of tungsten. The formation
of these oxides will produce excess heat in the range from 130 to 220
Kcal/mol. This chemically derived source of heat should be eliminated by
On 2012-04-25 20:31, Axil Axil wrote:
One of the criticisms of this high school experiment will come frome and
will be based on the formation of various oxides of tungsten. The
formation of these oxides will produce excess heat in the range from 130
to 220 Kcal/mol. This chemically derived
If this high school reaction is consistent with the Rossi Reaction; a
proton based reaction, I suspect that Rhenium is the mainline transmutation
product.
Since potassium is the not so secret sauce in this high school reaction, it
lends credence to the speculation that potassium is also the
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, in short, several teachers (with of course valid degrees and
expertise in several areas relevant to this kind of experiment) from the
Leopoldo Pirelli industrial high school in Rome with the involvement of
some of their students,
On 2012-04-23 15:25, Jed Rothwell wrote:
A Mizuno electrolytic cell with powder? Not sure what that means. Do you
mean the gas loaded cell? An Arata cell perhaps?
It is not really clear yet as complete details haven't been provided
yet. Here's an excerpt from the email to 22passi by the
It is probably plasma electrolysis (aka glow discharge electrolysis)
Here is Naudin's replication of Mizuno and Ohmori
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/cfr/html/cfrdatas.htm
It would be interesting to know if the nanopowder was added to water as a
colloid
-Original Message-
From: Akira
To recap the analysis (tired pun based on the Pirelli name) ... these
school kids could get a lot of mileage out of a well-conceived experiment.
As to the point that this cannot be both a fluidized bed reactor, if it is
using gas supported nanopowder and at the same time be a true electrolysis
More information:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/cold-fusion-in-italian-high-school/
This is linked to a slide show:
http://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2012/04/19/foto/il_reattore_costruito_dagli_studenti-33583028/1/
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The slide show is nifty. It looks like professional grade equipment to me.
I told John Dash about this. I expect he will be gratified.
I hope these kids really have 400% excess heat, as claimed. It would be a
laugh and a half if they succeed so spectacularly in an experiment that the
DoE and so
I wrote:
Details about power levels or the materials used haven't been provided yet
(will be soon), but I personally don't expect anything more than
milliwatt-range excess heat.
I think that with powder, if you get any heat it is usually more than this.
If it is 400% excess, as claimed,
On 2012-04-23 20:38, Jed Rothwell wrote:
If it is 400% excess, as claimed, it has to be more than milliwatt-range
excess heat. Look at the slides of the equipment, meters and power
supplies. I do not think it is likely they are inputting ~100 mW and
getting out ~400 mW. I doubt they could
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope it is as you say. However, subtle wording details in the original
letter sent to 22passi by eng. Ugo Abundo make it look like they don't have
clear-cut experimental data . . .
It wouldn't surprise me if they don't.
I'm being
As Akira already stated the wording is not very clear even for Italian
speakers. I share same feelings as Akira on the success of further
testing.
I think the most important question, as always in this field, is about
reproducibility, but Eng. Abundo, seems quite clear about this and
says that
Michele Comitini wrote:
The patent idea to protect further open source development with this
setup is just wonderful.
I agree!
If this works it will send a strong message to Rossi that he should stop
sitting around hatching one scheme after another. He should get serious,
file patents,
I love this! It is a feel-good story. It is wonderful to see young people
doing this.
As I said, even if they turn out to be wrong . . . hey, no big deal, good
job, keep trying. If anyone should be allowed to make an experimental error
it is a high school kid.
I hope the claims are confirmed
This is definitely an Ohmori-Mizuno style glow discharge experiment. I
heard from one of the authors. It employs confined free powders of
tungsten in a reaction chamber by natural convection with a plasma between
the powder and an anode jacketed by a porous sintered borosilicate glass
filter.
On 2012-04-24 02:46, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This is definitely an Ohmori-Mizuno style glow discharge experiment. I
heard from one of the authors. [...]
Do you mean directly from one of the authors from the L.Pirelli
institute? That's great if yes, I guess we will have more reliable
information
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you mean directly from one of the authors from the L.Pirelli institute?
Yup.
- Jed
On 2012-04-20 14:09, Ron Kita wrote:
Greetings Vortex-L
If you use a Google Chrome browser it will automatically translate this
for you:
http://www.greenme.it/informarsi/energie-rinnovabili/7458-fusione-fredda-e-cat-studenti
It can be seen even in Italian that the Pirelli Foundation funded
Greetings Vortex-L
If you use a Google Chrome browser it will automatically translate this for
you:
http://www.greenme.it/informarsi/energie-rinnovabili/7458-fusione-fredda-e-cat-studenti
It can be seen even in Italian that the Pirelli Foundation funded the
research and a patent application
was
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