RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Bastiaan Bergman it is said that the reason RM never actively pursues - or mentions the so-called deuterino (reduced orbital deuterium species) relates to potential weaponization. How can Deuterinos be weaponized? Let's be clear on this. It is most unlikely

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-09 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Jones, Haven't been following long enough yet. it is said that RM never actively pursues - or mentions the so-called deuterino (reduced orbital deuterium species) relates to potential weaponization. How can Deuterino's be weaponized? And why Deuterino's specifically? And why would one who

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-08 Thread Alain Sepeda
Reading Larsen Slides, he cite possibilities that some non hydrides environments trigger LENR. carbon cycles : polycyclic hydrocarbons, graphènes , carbons nanotubes, footbalène... carbon cycles on hydrides, or on other metal... also maybe collective electrons in beam (citing old 192x

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Alain Sepeda … some non hydrides environments trigger LENR. carbon cycles : polycyclic hydrocarbons, graphènes , carbons nanotubes, footbalène... This field of polycyclic catalysts is based primarily on the important Mizuno experiments with phenanthrene, which is an extract of

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: This could open up a certain category of risk to the rest or us, and it is doubtful that proper precautions are being taken. As I understand it, there was an agreed protocol for extracting samples. The idea was not to

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-08 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Then again, maybe the Ruskies are looking to weaponize the bugs. Funny you should mention that. But this thread might be more appropriate for the above top secret forum (if you don't mind being added to the list of those who are guaranteed a full

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-08 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:16 Mittwoch, 8.Februar 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake Jones, Anyone having followed Mills/BLP through the years- is probably aware that of one

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:16:43 -0800: Hi, [snip] Let's don't go there. ...you just did. :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Antarctica's buried Lake Vostok has supposedly been breached by a Russian team, following an arduous and very expensive effort. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57372465/russian-team-reaches-antarctica s-buried-lake-vostok-say-reports/ Hold the presses. Here is a prediction on what they will

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
Have you see The Stuff? 2012/2/7 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Antarctica's buried Lake Vostok has supposedly been breached by a Russian team, following an arduous and very expensive effort. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57372465/russian-team-reaches-antarctica

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Robert McKay
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Have you see The Stuff? Did you mean The Thing ? Rob

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
Not really! The stuff! Jones was talking about extracting something, lol. 2012/2/7 Robert McKay rob...@mckay.com On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Have you see The Stuff? Did you mean The Thing ? Rob -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Daniel, this particular stuff about D2O enrichment via a long-term density reflux mechanism is serious science. I realize that this is not always the case on vortex. No smiley this time. The Stuff . cough.cough . OTOH (as it appears on Wiki) seems to be a low budget horror flick made by the

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 17:51 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake You heard it first on Vo... Jones --- Not to forget: The Russians are also strong

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
I haven't thought of a payback! Just a funny thing that I thought :) But I am kind of annoyed by this cheap soap opera that never seem to end. I have hopes for DGT, but I lost on Rossi. His talk about robotic production line, his not talking anymore about wide sale 1MW units, his increasing anger,

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread zer tte
From what i have read so far they're not expecting much more than pure water, like really pure. They're supposed to be looking for some alien life form but seems to have found none so far. If they are really looking for heavy water, they've got quite a good cover but i don't really see how they

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, indeed. And this raises another issue, which may be what you are alluding to. What if the water in this lake does turn out to be heavily enriched in D2O and in addition, there is found to be an evolved lifeform which has “learned” (i.e. has evolved a biological mechanism) to metabolize the

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:37 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake Yes, indeed. And this raises another issue, which may be what you are alluding

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
What a surprise. I was not aware that so many people were following this... most of whom, shall we say - already have a conspiracy theory slant. I waded through 20 pages of good and awful postings - without seeing any reference to heavy water, or to life evolved to use it. Have you seen this

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Joe Hughes
Yeah - some of those folks definitely go to sleep wearing their tin foil hats. ;) I was posting those links not directly in relation to the heavy water theory but in response to zer tte's: From what i have read so far they're not expecting much more than pure water, like really pure. They're

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
1. Ice-nine. 2. A sleeping Kraken

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Joe Hughes jhughe...@comcast.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 20:55 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake Yeah - some of those folks definitely go to sleep wearing their tin foil hats

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:10 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake 1. Ice-nine. 2. A sleeping Kraken - Ah, had Vonnegut a scientific bend? Did not know

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Celani et al. already found species adapted to heavy water: Ralstonia detusculanense. http://www.uniprot.org/taxonomy/148618 And one other. See the papers at LENR-CANR.org. This stuff in the heavy water from Ontario Hydro (which I think has a new name). It adapted sometime in the last 50

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Good point. But this was 50 years to adapt chemically - in order to merely survive. It would surely take much longer to adapt in such a way as to actually derive excess energy from D2O, and almost all experts in biology would say it is impossible. Kervan is controversial and there is

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: 1. Ice-nine. 2. A sleeping Kraken 3, Nazi's http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/ T

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 0:20 Mittwoch, 8.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake -- 3,  Nazi's http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/ -- As a Nazi descendant  I

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Good point. But this was 50 years to adapt chemically - in order to merely survive. ** ** It would surely take much longer to adapt in such a way as to actually derive excess energy from D2O. . . Sure. Millions of years, I suppose, assuming it