Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-11 Thread Teslaalset
Another indication of the use of 'selective oxidation' in Constantan by Celani can be found on slide 12 of an earlier presentation on his use of ISOTAN 44 in his demo setup: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8mt4mJOTGvBeXJCNXNUdEJVME0/edit?pli=1 This points again to the method describe in the Dutc

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
“Wouldn't a closed-cell nickel foam with hydrogen in the closed cells be intriguing?” I would suggest using a copper nickel foam to start out with. http://www.americanelements.com/nicufoam.html Then remove the copper from the foam with an acid bath to increase the porosity of the foam in the f

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-10 Thread Jack Cole
I think I'll try both ways (AC and DC) to compare. I've been thinking about other materials too (such as tungsten/nickel wool or foam). See here: http://www.americanelements.com/tungsten-nickel-wool.html Here is some interesting info from the site on metal foam. *A metallic foam or ceramic foam

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-10 Thread Teslaalset
I read some discussions on reversing polarity doing electrolysis with contantan coins. This is actually an interesting topic. Using alloys in oxidizing mode (coin = anode = +), whole surface of the coin will oxidize. Reversing polarity (coin = cathode = -) will have an interesting effect on the ox

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-10 Thread Jack Cole
;> >>>>>>> I know there is some complex boron chemistry going on with metal >>>>>>> oxides forming as a result which is typical of electrolysis. What is >>>>>>> unusual about this as far as Joule heating, or Ohmic heating, is that >>>

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-09 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
gt;>>>>> diameter, and slightly higher resistance than the feeding electrodes. >>>>>> Here >>>>>> you have this really large hunk of metal (the Ni coin) and the feeding >>>>>> wire >>>>>> is smaller than the metal. It

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-09 Thread Jack Cole
>>>>> get. Also, could you guess as to the size of your jar dimensions and >>>>> weight.A typical glass jar also has a pretty good size heat capacity. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Chuck >>>

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Sites
;>>>> Electrical energy given to the system : 4.33 hours @ 12 watt = 187056 >>>>> J => 44677 cal >>>>> >>>>> To rise the temp from 55 F to 146 F, the system need 50 cal/g of >>>>> water. (Assuming electrodes and recipient are ne

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Cole
, Jack Cole wrote: >>>> >>>>> It was 5 oz of water. I shut it down after the temp maxed out at 158F. >>>>> On Oct 1, 2012 12:29 PM, "Arnaud Kodeck" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ** >>>>>> Find here some simple calorim

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
; ** >>>>> Find here some simple calorimetry calculations : >>>>> >>>>> Electrical energy given to the system : 4.33 hours @ 12 watt = 187056 >>>>> J => 44677 cal >>>>> >>>>> To rise the temp from 55 F to 146 F, the system need 50 cal/g of >>>>

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Cole
ise the temp from 55 F to 146 F, the system need 50 cal/g of >>>> water. (Assuming electrodes and recipient are negligible) >>>> >>>> Assuming no loss of heat by dissipation, the electrical energy released >>>> will rise the temperature of 44677 / 50 =

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Sites
y source (chemical or other). >>> >>> -- >>> *From:* ken deboer [mailto:barlaz...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* lundi 1 octobre 2012 19:00 >>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sit

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Cole
Sadly more than an hour into a controlled experiment, pennies are outdoing the nickel (100.7F vs. 92.1F). So for now, this looks to be a failure to replicate on two fronts (copper not resulting in heating and superiority of nickel). I'll report again if I find something different. On Mon, Oct 1,

RE: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jones Beene
DC electrolysis is inefficient at raising the temperature of an electrolyte for two obvious reasons. Water-splitting itself uses up much of the current, and when the split gases are not recombined, then that energy is completely lost; plus the split gases, apart from the energy used to split them -

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Cole
ectrical energy released >> will rise the temperature of 44677 / 50 = 884g of water. >> >> If Jack use more than 884g of water, we are sure that there is another >> energy source (chemical or other). >> >> -- >> *From:* ken de

RE: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Cole
use more than 884g of water, we are sure that there is another > energy source (chemical or other). > > -- > *From:* ken deboer [mailto:barlaz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* lundi 1 octobre 2012 19:00 > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Replica

RE: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment Very interesting, indeed. How much water are you using? If everything were 100% efficient, and you were inputting 12 watts/hr = ~40 btu/hr, over 3 hours you would have 120 btu, which theoretically could rais

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread ken deboer
Very interesting, indeed. How much water are you using? If everything were 100% efficient, and you were inputting 12 watts/hr = ~40 btu/hr, over 3 hours you would have 120 btu, which theoretically could raise 1 pound of water 120 F. Best regards, kend On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jack Cole w

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Cole
Thanks Jed, glad to do it. Small update: 7 am Temp 55F Start 9 am Temp 110F 10 am Temp 129F 11:20 am Temp 146F Outside temp started at 55F and was at 57F at 11:20 am. I'll keep running until the temp levels off. At that point, I'll work on setting up a control cell. The water has turned brow

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Thanks for doing this! - Jed

[Vo]:Replication of Chuck Sites Nickel/Boron Experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Cole
Hi All, I've been lurking and reading about Chuck's nickel/boron electrolysis experiments, and decided to try to do a replication. I had purchased some thin thoriated tungsten welding electrodes recently to see if I could replicate some of the effects seen with the Athanor reactor and thought I'd