Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Alain Sepeda
My reports is that Luca is far from being a newcomer or a carpetbagger in the domain. I let people knowing who he is report the precise facts to support what have been reported to me. Luca have a past, a good past. this is painful to me, but the credibility of DGT compared to Luca was much lower

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I have heard rumors that Gamberale is a thief and a liar. Well, in that case he isn't very good at being a thief and a liar, is he? When he and his colleagues found a problem, they immediately informed their customers and closed down the company. That is not

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Not a good liar. No one was able to answer my questions concerning the inconsistencies of the report I pointed out on CMNS. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
There is only one open question: Was this a stupid mistake, or was it deliberate fraud? It is hard to judge, but I do not think it makes much difference. Either way, a person would be crazy to deal with the company. There could be another complication involved in the testing of the NiH

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Not a good liar. No one was able to answer my questions concerning the inconsistencies of the report I pointed out on CMNS. I do not recall these questions, but you are not one who needs questions answered. Defkalion needs to explain why Gamberale is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It is likely that Gamberale was not away of this *idiocynrocy implicate *in the NiH reactor and his test was flawed because of it. No, that would not apply during the calibration phase. Gamberale reported spurious excess heat during calibration with the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Why do they need answer anything? I can see what's wrong, and there's no need for DGT answer anything. This is what I posted: Dear Abd, I cannot see significant mistakes in the demo, but I can see that the report was really awful in explaining the compatibility with the demo. And I agree with

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Note, it's been almost a month an no one answere. There is no need to DGT clarify anything since Gambarelli did a piss poor report. They should clarify that first. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
*Regarding the report, the first problem was that it measured with neutral Ar and then with H2 and both yield the same high power measure. In the demo, they had different power measures, the one with Ar, was low* *This is a good point.* *In the demo that I watched, I saw the neutral Ar test

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
I am going from memory here which could be misapplied. Anyway, DGT remarks associated with the ICCF-18 demo regarding EMF interference leads me to the conclusion that during the demo, DGT first became fully aware of the full extent of the problems caused by the disruptive power that LENR related

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
Refreshing my memory as follows: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/newvortex/conversations/topics/584 Snip Additional information was provided, that Defkalion had seen disruption of electronic equipment by the device, such as their phone system being shut down; the measurements reported were

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Additional information was provided, that Defkalion had seen disruption of electronic equipment by the device, such as their phone system being shut down; the measurements reported were with all shielding removed; normally, they operate the Hyperion with

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
more... When the NiH reactor produces more magnetic field force than the biggest and most powerful black hole or neutron star, we should expect some RF interference. Testing such a device is not going to be easy. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Here is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
This sounds like there was something wrong with the equipment and/of the test setup. Fix the equipment and/or test setup and rerun the test. Running a test with this anomaly ongoing puts the test result in question. Since DGT did not rum the test, they cannot be blamed for the malfunction. Am I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like there was something wrong with the equipment and/of the test setup. Correct. Fix the equipment and/or test setup and rerun the test. Yes, they should have done that, but they never did. As far as anyone knows, they never fixed the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
You can't be referring to the test I saw on the internet. To advance my understanding and my memory, that test is still available for reference. Can you point to where this problem is seen on the video? I don't remember such a problem showing up. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: You can't be referring to the test I saw on the internet. There is only one test as far as I know. It was conducted during the ICCF conference. It shows Hadjichristos blathering while in the background the flow meter data shows that the test is not working.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
That demo looked good to me but I am no expert. I still don't trust people is the LENR business because you all have vested interests. All the tests and demos run by Ross must also have been invalid because of RF interference. One of the major challenges in the NiH reactor business is running

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Terry Blanton
If anyone wants to suffer through it, it remains available: http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/Defkalion-US

[Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
Andrea Rossi July 12th, 2014 at 5:04 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853cpage=3#comment-976936 Giovanni Guerrini: I agree with you, but I am very worried of the wannabe competitors that now are presenting clowneries, like did Defkalion: they are very dangerous, because their

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
Andrea Rossi July 12th, 2014 at 9:30 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853cpage=3#comment-976992 Todd Burkett: We have made substantial investments to replicate ALL the experiments reported in patents and publications. I repeat : ALL. I am sure that, at least in some cases, we know

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
eernie1 July 7th, 2014 at 11:58 AM Andrea, I have noticed that the bloggers on Vortex-l are discussing internal conversion through electron capture as a possible LENR producer. They seem to look for reactions involving deuterium rather than in the metals used in LENR. I would suggest they read

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Terry Blanton
What explanation hasn't been discussed? :-)

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
Vortex-l will be a gold mine of material for the open source advocates of LENR to retrospectively research. There must be one of these many LENR explanations that accidentally hit on the true LENR causation to bring LENR intellectual property into the public sphere. On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:02

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
*...I am very worried of the wannabe competitors that now are presenting clowneries, like did Defkalion: they are very dangerous, because their failures will spray dirt on our work, as well as defkalion did: our enemies are eager to find another defkocones to say that all LENR world is a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
http://pesn.com/2014/07/03/9602514_New-3rd-party-test-results_on_solar-hydrogen-trends_show-over-1000x-overunity/ New 3rd-party test results on SHT show over 1000x overunity A COP of 1000 will put this system at the top of the competitive heap. Did Rossi test this system? On Sun, Jul 13, 2014

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi wrote: . . . we have replicated all the existing patents and know hows regarding the LENR existing in the world and no one of them has manifested a real heat excess with the following exceptions: Ikegami-Petterson system and Brian Ahern System. These are the only two systems that

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Why is Rossi so worried about Defkalion? It seems that Rossi's Defkalion concerns are transcendent far above all other competitors. I think he is upset by them, but not worried. He feels that he was misled and abused by them. I do not think he considers

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi and his crew must study the stuff in Jed's library heavily. He mentioned replicating from patents. I do not keep up with the patents. I have uploaded a few, but I have neglected many others. Perhaps I should make the effort to upload them all. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
I have heard rumors that Gamberale is a thief and a liar. To the validity of this rumor, I cannot hold an informed opinion. At this juncture I cannot really know who to believe. This uncertainty in the motives of any single source is why reliable news organization must get multiple conformations

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed that the bloggers on Vortex-l are discussing internal conversion through electron capture as a possible LENR producer. The recent thread about internal conversion was asking whether there as a way to quickly

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed that the bloggers on Vortex-l are discussing internal conversion through electron capture as a possible LENR producer. The recent