Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread David Roberson
final design. I see parallels in the behavior of solar cycles. Of course the above description of solar behavior is hypothetical. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:46 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread David Roberson
Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM, David Roberson wrote: Dark energy, matter and gravitational effects are likely not involved to any major degree. I like Robin's approach -- perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
I sorta think most of these stars are multi-dimensional branes at their core that decay to hydrogen and eject/leak branes further out as the universe expands, ie. maybe our solar system is just a bunch of galactic mass ejections like comets caught in quantum orbit with each other and the gas giants

RE: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Jones Beene
One further (far-out :-) thought on this 11- year cycle… and it is that we are seeing what is basically a holdover resonance from the “previous system”. Our sun is a second or third generation star – meaning that it has gone through more than one iteration of collapse and rebirth. Where was t

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM, David Roberson wrote: Dark energy, matter and gravitational effects are likely not involved to > any major degree. I like Robin's approach -- perhaps there's an intrinsic process driving the sun's 11 year cycle, and it has influenced where the planets formed and

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
t no one has found evidence to support the idea as far as I know. > > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: mixent 'mix...@bigpond.com');>> > To: vortex-l 'vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> > Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:32 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Su

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:32 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 30 Sep 2013 07:47:26 -0700: Hi, Could the eleven year solar cycle be the reason that the largest planet in

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 30 Sep 2013 07:47:26 -0700: Hi, Could the eleven year solar cycle be the reason that the largest planet in the solar system formed at a distance where the orbital period matched the solar cycle? (roughly). [snip] >Could there be some kind of effect from

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:32:02 -0300: Hi, [snip] >I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets >(Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the >association with astrology, the constellations, and related >pseudo-scientific stu

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/30/2013 12:20 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: Are these the same guys that missed the mass/energy of the universe by 1900% (95/5)...:) The point being, in any case, that the effect of the planets on the Sun can't be explained by a *conventional* tidal effect, that is, the ones depending on the

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
Are these the same guys that missed the mass/energy of the universe by 1900% (95/5)...:) On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: > ** > On 09/30/2013 11:47 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: > > I found it odd that nobody mentions the *p

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/30/2013 11:47 AM, Eric Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy > wrote: I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association with astrology, the

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
Eric, I believe YES. If you look at the Sunspots, they harbor the elliptical, magnetic flux tubes(strings of vacuum energy in my model) that generate solar flares and CME's and stream energetic particles. I believe these energetic particles are collapsed/dark vacuum energy (branes from M Theory)

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: ** > I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets > (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association > with astrology, the constellations, and related pseudo-scientific stuff? > Could there be some

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
I believe we will find that this whole universe orbits based upon energetic, quantum gravity fields of dark/vacuum energy between bodies. Earth's magnetic field protects us from a lot of the energetic stuff, but what gets through creates our weather disturbances and ionizes the atmosphere. When y

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
Mark Jurich wrote: > FYI: arXiv of this paper: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1106/1106.0847.pdf Interesting paper, thanks. I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association with astrology, the con

RE: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-28 Thread Jones Beene
From: Roarty, Francis X Maybe this is why Venus rotates so slowly while all the other planets that orbit the sun ccw rotate much faster. Rotation being driven by a Tesla ether eating dynamic/whirlpool instead of opposing it.. all the other kids in the pool are in opposition to the directio

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-28 Thread Roarty, Francis X
pool whirl? Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 7:51 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter There was almost no doubt that Stewart would jump onto this topic with a smile on his

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Waterspouts are not swirling wind and water vapor http://epsppd.epfl.ch/London/pdf/P4_062.pdf They are strings of decaying vacuum energy On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:42 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Jones, > > I agree with your last statement, I do not necessarily differentiate > between dark energ

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jones, I agree with your last statement, I do not necessarily differentiate between dark energy and dark matter, I think it is all primarily vacuum energy curled up into at least six extra dimensions of space within our 3-dimensions of space. I think the cores of most all of these "gravitational"

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-27 Thread Mark Jurich
Jones Beene wrote: | Yet all of this does seem to fit into a hypothesis about gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum which is by nature catalytic in the same way that a small magnet will align a large piece of iron. | | http://phys.org/news/2011-08-d

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-27 Thread Jones Beene
There was almost no doubt that Stewart would jump onto this topic with a smile on his face - and there appears to be a pretty convincing cross-connection between sunspots and planetary tidal forces (not just Jupiter but others as well) locked into some kind of a cosmic slow dance, as he mentions on