the winter. :-)
Frederick
- Original Message -
From:
John
Steck
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: 9/6/05 10:51:41 AM
Subject: RE: Alleviating Energy
Costs
Thank you
for forwarding the link. Dropped an email to my local rep to give me a
quote. I will share with
: vortex-lSubject: Re: Alleviating Energy
Costs
Pricey no doubt, but maybe cheaper in the long run than predicted costs of
natural gas, propane and heating oil.
http://www.trane.com/Residential/Products/HeatPumps/GroundSource/GroundSourcePage.asp
" Some homeowners are tapping into the
the winter. :-)
Frederick
- Original Message -
From: John Steck
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: 9/6/05 10:51:41 AM
Subject: RE: Alleviating Energy Costs
Thank you for forwarding the link. Dropped an email to my local rep to give me a quote. I will share with the class what I find out...
Govt. poop.
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=geo_heat.pr_crit_geo_heat_pumps
"Geothermal Heat Pump: A geothermal heat pump model uses the thermal energy of the ground or groundwater as the heat source and heat sink for residential space heating and/or cooling. It may provide both space
economy.
- Original Message -
From:
Frederick Sparber
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:24
AM
Subject: Re: Alleviating Energy
Costs
Govt. poop.
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=geo_heat.pr_crit_geo_heat_pumps
"Geothermal
Pricey no doubt, but maybe cheaper in the long run than predicted costs of natural gas, propane and heating oil.
http://www.trane.com/Residential/Products/HeatPumps/GroundSource/GroundSourcePage.asp
" Some homeowners are tapping into the earth for energy savings.They have found geothermal
One might want to get up on the roof this fall, and cover it with "Bubble Wrap" held down
with "Plastic Netting".
I researched this for a builder in 1992. The stuff with bubbles over an inch is almost as good as double pane glass.
In 30 F air the temperature of a metal roof increased to 130 F
John
I just got wind from an outside source that BLP and Carrier
Corporation.
Yup, a hydrino-assisted heat pump in your home, coming
soonThey must have finally gotten the Thermacore patent
problems worked out.
. those guys at Carrier are no boobs:
From: Jones Beene
...
Yup, a hydrino-assisted heat pump in your home, coming
soonThey must have finally gotten the Thermacore
patent problems worked out.
. those guys at Carrier are no boobs:
http://www.comfortchoice.carrier.com/details/0,,CLI1_DIV28_ETI 179,00.html
With all
From: Jones Beene
Yup, a hydrino-assisted heat pump in your home, coming
soonThey must have finally gotten the Thermacore patent
problems worked out.
. those guys at Carrier are no boobs:
http://www.comfortchoice.carrier.com/details/0,,CLI1_DIV28_ETI179,00.html
If one were
From: Jones Beene
...
Yup, a hydrino-assisted heat pump in your home, coming
soonThey must have finally gotten the Thermacore
patent problems worked out.
Jones,
Another thought ran through my noggin...
Assuming there is some truth to this rumor it really brings to bare, at least
No,UTX probably would NOT be a great
investment (considering the time frame still necessary to get a new product ot
market) unless, that is,we get into another war, soon.As I
undersatnd it, the stock has already been run way up on the strength of UTÂ’s
military esp. helicopter division
To: vortex-lSubject: Re: Alleviating Energy
Costs
About the only thing I can add, Richard,
is that the "Energy Barons" as dictated by
Cheney's Secret meeting on energy policy is set
the price of all Fossil fuel
energy at $3.00 per Therm (100,000
BTU).
Gasoline, Diesel, (~.1.2 Th
John Steck wrote...
Perhaps a bit late, but any recommendations
to offset grid dependence this winter?I suspect the budget busting
fuel costs last winter will pale by comparison to this winter... even a
wood fueled steam powered generator is looking cost effective at this
point. 8^(
Lots
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Sent: Saturday, 27 August 2005 5:58 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Alleviating Energy Costs
With fossil fuel energy (Heating, Cooling Motor Fuel) cost heading toward
$3.00/therm or $30.00/million BTU,
an insulated 5,000 -10,000 gallon (poured concrete) water storage
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/08/31 Wed PM 07:55:09 CDT
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: Alleviating Energy Costs
I just got wind from an outside source that BLP and
Carrier Corporation(part of the United Technologies
group) are up to something with RD on a new technology
http://www.dallasfed.org/research/swe/2005/swe0504c.html
" Natural Gas Pricing: Do Oil Prices Still Matter?
Over the past 10 years, however, the number of facilities able to switch between natural gas and residual fuel oil has declined. And in the most recent five years, natural gas prices
With fossil fuel energy (Heating, Cooling Motor Fuel) cost heading toward $3.00/therm or $30.00/million BTU,
an insulated 5,000 -10,000 gallon (poured concrete) water storage tank buried in the back
yard (at a safe distance from the septic tank if you have one) can store about 4 million
Methinks the Water-to-Air "Geothermal" heat pumps using stored water(or hybridized geothermal/water storage) would be cheaper to operate, witha lower heat storage installation cost too. ???
http://www.alliantenergygeothermal.com/stellent2/groups/public/documents/pub/geo_how_001210.hcsp
" You
Posted earlier:
With fossil fuel energy (Heating, Cooling Motor Fuel) cost heading toward
$3.00/therm or $30.00/million BTU,
With Distribution, Transmission, Access, and franchise feesNatural Gas isrunning about $.90 per therm. Add 30% to 40% for heat out the chimney
Coal Generated
Fred has a very important series of posts regarding vital moves
proposed for available energy resources that are being tragically ignored.
As a nation, we overlook readily available technology in energy
conservation and use because we have been seduced by artificially low fuel
prices for
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