In reply to Rick Monteverde's message of Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:43:39 -1000:
Hi,
[snip]
> Since the event seemed to develop 'slowly' at first, how
>about this - a bubble of H & O2 did develop and ignite, but in a burn still
>slow and/or small enough to be mechanically absorbed by the system. As the
The hydraulic transmission of a sharp shock does seem to satisfy
in the face of the impressive pattern of the shattered bottom of the beaker,
and from what I recall a stoichiometric mix of H & O2 has a pretty sharp
brisance when ignited. A cherry bomb won't harm a toilet at all unless it's
dee
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:05:41 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Nuclear weapons produce so much radiation that all molecules near the
>device are decomposed into atoms and ions, which occupy a much larger
>volume. In addition, the energy density is huge.
[snip]
Precisely.
>>
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:51:49 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
For an explosion to occur, a shock wave must be produced. Simply having
energy suddenly produced in a volume would only cause the temperature go
up, and ionization to occur with a flash
thomas malloy wrote:
> BTW, what's the final story on the funnel. was there one above the
> area of gas emission or not?
No, there was not.
- Jed
Ed Storms wrote:
and Mike Carrell responded;
I suggest several facts must be kept in mind when proposing the hydrino
explanation.
1. Energy is only released when hydrinos are formed, not when
accumulated hydrinos are returned to "normal".
Correct.
I was discussing Patapov's Yusmar machine with
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:51:49 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>For an explosion to occur, a shock wave must be produced. Simply having
>energy suddenly produced in a volume would only cause the temperature go
>up, and ionization to occur with a flash of radiation. The sudden
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:53:23 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
I don't understand how "instantly" is possible. Two entities must get
together. This takes time.
Of course it does, however that time is very short on human scales, provided that the
In reply to Vince Cockeram's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:56:58 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>Indeed! When I was running a glow discharge in H2 + K, I had an 'event' that
>I can not explain.
>I had run this experiment probably a hundred times and had never seen what
>occurred.
>A run on March 18, 2000 at
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:53:23 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>I don't understand how "instantly" is possible. Two entities must get
>together. This takes time.
Of course it does, however that time is very short on human scales, provided
that the density of catalyst and
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Carrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Britz: Not enough gas to cause explosion?
<There is evidence from Mills' gas phase experiments that reaction rates are
complex functions of pro
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:28:19 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>> I don't understand how "instantly" is possible. Two entities must get
>> together. This takes time. Once energy is released from this collision,
>> the local process stops. If additional energy is to be release
ED Storms wrote:
>
> Mike Carrell wrote:
>
> > Ed Storms wrote:
> >>2. Hydrino production can only be produced rather slowly, only as
> >>rapidly as normal H diffuses to the active site and the resulting
> >>hydrino diffuses away.
> >
> >
> > No. Hydrino production can proceed at any speed, inclu
Mike Carrell wrote:
Ed Storms wrote:
I suggest several facts must be kept in mind when proposing the hydrino
explanation.
1. Energy is only released when hydrinos are formed, not when
accumulated hydrinos are returned to "normal".
Correct.
2. Hydrino production can only be produced rather slowly
Ed Storms wrote:
> I suggest several facts must be kept in mind when proposing the hydrino
> explanation.
>
> 1. Energy is only released when hydrinos are formed, not when
> accumulated hydrinos are returned to "normal".
Correct.
>
> 2. Hydrino production can only be produced rather slowly, only
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:39:35 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>I suggest several facts must be kept in mind when proposing the hydrino
>explanation.
>
>1. Energy is only released when hydrinos are formed, not when
>accumulated hydrinos are returned to "normal".
The presence
x27;t always do that (grin). I suspect I'm not alone
in this regard.
K.
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:40 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Britz: Not enough gas to cause explosion?
Hi Jones,
Granted that an
Ed
> Even if the H = H* reaction were to occur, the energy has
to go
> somewhere. Presumably, the energy goes into the O-- ion,
which is a
> catalyst. As a result, the normal H2+O2 reaction energy is
augmented by
> a small contribution from hydrino formation. This causes
the normal
> shock wave to
Hi Jones,
Granted that an autocatalytic reaction is possible, several more facts
have to be considered.
1. First of all, a destructive explosion occurs as a shock wave that is
suddenly formed by release of energy and gas. A slow release of energy
that does not produce a shock wave will dissipat
Hi Ed,
> I suggest several facts must be kept in mind when
proposing the hydrino
> explanation.
> 1. Energy is only released when hydrinos are formed, not
when
> accumulated hydrinos are returned to "normal".
That, of course, is part of Mills' explanation. But we
should keep in mind two things
I suggest several facts must be kept in mind when proposing the hydrino
explanation.
1. Energy is only released when hydrinos are formed, not when
accumulated hydrinos are returned to "normal".
2. Hydrino production can only be produced rather slowly, only as
rapidly as normal H diffuses to th
Jed Rothwell writes.
> I have to admit, the people pursuing the hydrino
explanation do have a point.
Here is a suggestion (w/ input from Fred Sparber) that might
be woth mentioning to Mizuno, or anyone else working with K
or Sr or Rb electrolytes, alone or in combinations.
BTW, Rb should be the
Dieter Britz also wonders how such a small amount of gas
might have caused such a large explosion in Mizuno's cell. He wrote to
me:
"It is also hard to imagine that there should have been enough for
such a violent explosion. You have no doubt seen the school experiment,
where a lighted taper is i
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