Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-14 Thread Horace Heffner
with Rossie’s statement. It is of course important to obtain accurate measurements of these values to make consistent sense of the data. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-14 Thread Horace Heffner
sense of the data. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Mark, I am working on getting better or confirming estimates. I am also working on multiple other things

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Robert Lynn
Obviously a lot of effort went into this. I am curious, where did the information about the 1 bar pressure regulator in the outlet come from? How does that talley with the 124°C temperature that was recorded at 15:58, given that 124°C implies a pressure (saturated steam) of 2.25bar absoulute

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:03 PM 10/13/2011, Robert Lynn wrote: Obviously a lot of effort went into this. I am curious, where did the information about the 1 bar pressure regulator in the outlet come from? How does that talley with the 124°C temperature that was recorded at 15:58, given that 124°C implies a

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... -mark

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
do not think that is accurate. -mark -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:20 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... -mark

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins However, I'm not sure if he's got the dimensions of the heat spreaders correct. From all the pics of the fat-cat open, the heat spreader fins look to have a uniform ~3cm clearance from the 4 walls. In Higgins' drawing, he shows the heat

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:19 PM 10/13/2011, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... He offered me a higher-res version, if anyone wants it.

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:32 PM 10/13/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: The drawing I included is only meant to be a diagrammatic/schematic representation to help understand the quantities being considered. Welcome to vortex

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
[mailto:bob.higg...@motorolasolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins The drawing I included is only meant to be a diagrammatic/schematic representation to help understand the quantities being considered. Regards, Bob

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Hi Bob, I think all us Vorts appreciate the time you've put into the analyses and diagrams... Yes! Welcome to Vortex, Bob. I'm curious. At one time it was rumored that Motorola was interested in the CETI

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Hi Bob, I think all us Vorts appreciate the time you've put into the analyses and diagrams... I know you say the diagram is only meant to help visualize things, but from what I've read

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Hi Bob, I think all us Vorts appreciate the time you've put into the analyses and diagrams... Yes! Welcome to Vortex, Bob. I'm curious. At one time it was rumored

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:26 PM 10/13/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: Hi Mark, I will consider such a drawing. However, the present diagram is not geometrically correct - the internal unit is rotated in the cross-section so as to highlight the fins. What is needed is a proper drawing from the pictures. I just

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
...@motorolasolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Hi Mark, I will consider such a drawing. However, the present diagram is not geometrically correct - the internal unit is rotated in the cross-section so as to highlight

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Higgins Bob-CBH003 bob.higg...@motorolasolutions.com wrote: At this point, I can only say that my involvement is personal.  I was around in those Patterson days and was part of a panel that considered Motorola's involvement.  Unfortunately, I am one of the few

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:20 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins At 03:26 PM 10/13/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: Hi Mark, I will consider such a drawing. However, the present diagram is not geometrically correct - the internal unit is rotated in the cross

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
A belated welcome to Bob Higgins and all the other newcomers brought here by the Rossi extravaganza. On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Hi Bob, Having some basic dimensioning (height, width, length, etc.) would have been helpful for many of the analyses done to

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:58 PM 10/13/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: It does not appear there are any fins on the bottom of the reactor housing. My confidential observer said that there ARE fins on the bottom. I pleaded with him to get photos of everything WITH a ruler but here we are again pixel-peeping!

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: I think the resistor network and finite element approaches discussed below are a great track for understanding the possible magnitude of the Tout error. The big uncertainty is the pipe thread. It may take experiments to estimate the

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 13, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 05:58 PM 10/13/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: It does not appear there are any fins on the bottom of the reactor housing. My confidential observer said that there ARE fins on the bottom. I pleaded with him to get photos of everything WITH

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Mark, I am working on getting better or confirming estimates. I am also working on multiple other things at the moment so please be patient. [snip]