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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:50:30 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
It is hard to believe that the video feeds are the best part of a second out of
sync. This dereliction of instrumentation would be a mortal
For some of the deviations, there was no good excuse. For some, there is
good reason. MFMP has had difficulty replicating the Parkhomov seals, and
does not yet have the right size alumina parts for proper Parkhomov
replication. And in the Parkhomov design, it is hard to tell if the seal
failed
My notes on sealing tests using the Parkhomov cement formulation can be
seen at:
http://www.evernote.com/l/AXeKakT2sSpFMpLYlLx85OpP_c-MaaApbfs/
Dr Parkhomov has provided some additional details, which I will try in
the coming week. My conclusion so far is that a cement that contains
water as
From: Bob Higgins
*
* For some of the deviations, there was no good excuse. For some, there
is good reason… The best data from the experiment just completed is that the
sealing of the compression fitting with the aluminum ferrule was good. This is
a serious win, because it
I think the failure was caused by a brittle fracture of the alumina tube due to
thermal stresses, internal micro stresses caused by micro bubble formation and
resulting embrittlement.
Bob
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From: Bob Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 1:00 PM
To:
Maybe submersing in water bath would help even temp profile
On Sunday, February 8, 2015, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
I think the failure was caused by a brittle fracture of the alumina tube
due to thermal stresses, internal micro stresses caused by micro bubble
formation and
Yes, that is the good news - that the compression fitting works, and if the
problem relates to thermal stress, there is an easy way to fix that also.
To minimize thermal stress – the heater wire could be “feathered in” from both
ends, when it is wound so that there is an intermediate zone of
I think estimations of the gas pressure inside the dogbone reactor tube at
failure are probably substantial over-estimates. We don't really know how
much volume was displaced by the Ni, so the volume estimate for the chamber
is probably only accurate +100%/-50%. The volume of the system can and
In an experiment where replication is everything, it takes a pretty
compelling reason to deviate from the exact protocol and the justification
for such deviation should be carefully documented prior to the experimental
run.
Where is this documentation for the justification for departure
from
Jones Beene wrote:
If the failure was only pressure-related, it would happen near the middle of
the cavity, which is the region of least structural strength against internal
pressure - but since the failure (apparently) happened at almost exactly the
place where the temperature gradient would be
My guess is that a critical parameter is mass of reactant ratio to
volume inside the reactor.
Bob Greenyer comments that on the last 2 MFMP experiments, the resulting
sintered Ni + Li, Al mass slid out of the alumina tube with no apparent
sticking/sintering to the alumina. Thus, a reactor that is safely
open-able after the reaction provides opportunity to sample the ash, and
with the
The devil is in the details. IMHO, the primary cause of the failure was not
pressure related. When the video of the event is viewed at 1/4 speed, at
2.29 a white spot caused by high heat buildup first appears in the field of
scarlet near the point of failure. This bit of evidence shows that the
Looking at the BANG video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDfRaDY2R_A
starting at 2:29, it seems likely that the sound track is behind the video
track.
Why?
Because the events of 2:29 to 2:30 include a clear mechanical displacement
of the right end of the tube that goes so far as to mechanically
It is hard to believe that the video feeds are the best part of a second
out of sync. This dereliction of instrumentation would be a mortal sin
against science. We must understand that such a problem can get people to
follow false leads and waste tons of time trying to figure out a pressure
The VI display held stead at 79.7 until the instant of the bang when it
changed instantly to 76.9. the other field also changed in like sequence.
This tells me that the sound and video is in sync. These two indicators are
electrical flows to the heater coil. The heat suffered a shock at bang
The video frame of the BANG has 3 different video streams merged into
different sections of the frame.
It is likely that the video stream containing the VI display was in sync
with the audio and the video stream of the white hot dogbone was ahead of
the audio stream as well as the video stream
That is probably the targeting laser spot for the Williamson pyrometer.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:17 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
After the explosion there is a small white spot that persists after
most of the tube ceases to glow white.
Is that lens flare or a residual hot spot in
From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:42 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
The pressure release hypothesis is inconsistent with the PSI read out in
the video, which never reaches 1.0.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, MarkI
Be careful not to get the integrity too strong, otherwise you could have a
real pipe bomb on your hands..
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ryan Hunt reports that the failure mode was NOT the compression fitting
giving way under pressure - the fitting
There must be a some sort of reaction component to this explosion because
the gamma counter when wild for a few seconds. Gammas are produced by
nuclear causes.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ryan confirmed that the tube used was of the original
that
remains in operation throughout the test procedure.
Dave
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From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 6, 2015 1:39 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
At 2:29/2:30 into the short segment posted by Craig
...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2015 10:42 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
The pressure release hypothesis is inconsistent with the PSI read out in
the video, which never reaches 1.0.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
I wrote:
The spike showed up on the screen after the explosion I think.
Yup. In the video above, Bang! The explosion occurs at 2:31. The spike
appears at 2:49. If the spike were already on the screen when the explosion
occurred I might suspect that it was the beginning of an anomalous
in the reactor?
Harry
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
Do you believe the sensor, or your eyes?
-mi
From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:42 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is premature to assume that the explosion was caused by the Rossi
effect. The temperature was rising smoothly a few seconds before it
occurred, but there seemed to be some indication of a very rapid rise
immediately before everything went haywire.
Do you believe the sensor, or your eyes?
-mi
From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:42 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
The pressure release hypothesis is inconsistent with the PSI read out in the
video, which never reaches
Ryan Hunt reports that the failure mode was NOT the compression fitting
giving way under pressure - the fitting remained intact. This experiment
was of the easier Parkhomov design, posted previously where the seal was
made with a compression fitting, in this case with the use of a soft
aluminum
Ryan confirmed that the tube used was of the original Dogbone design with a
4mm ID and a 6.35mm (1/4) OD. This has a wall thickness of only 1.18mm
compared to Parkhomov's 2.5mm wall thickness. For the strength of the tube
used, the amount of LiAlH4 inserted was just too much.
Fortunately they
, February 06, 2015 10:42 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
The pressure release hypothesis is inconsistent with the PSI read out
in the video, which never reaches 1.0.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
At 2:29/2:30
:42 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
The pressure release hypothesis is inconsistent with the PSI read out
in the video, which never reaches 1.0.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
At 2:29/2:30 into the short segment
There is a second or two delay from the time of increased heat production
and the production of radiation. A facto-fusion event would produce the
simultaneous onset of the heat/radiation occurrence.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
I would be hesitant
...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2015 10:42 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
The pressure release hypothesis is inconsistent with the PSI read out
in the video, which never reaches 1.0.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
I saw a comment that stated the ticking sound was not from the Geiger
counter but from an H2 leak detector. Can anyone verify this?
ALso, is i possible to verify there was not an audio delay of about a
second in the video that might explain the delay in the ticking picking
up speed?
I would be hesitant to ascribe a transient radiation detection as
necessarily due to LENR. When the reactor exploded, there could have been
fracto-fusion which is known to produce a pulse of neutrons. Also, when
the tube exploded, it shattered the silicon carbide heater that they were
using, no
- Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
Good show,
Thanks, Craig.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
Short segment showing
Weaponiized! Yeah!
On Friday, February 6, 2015, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
javascript:; wrote:
So, the test is over. No good result.
Are you kidding? They successfully replicated results experienced by
Short segment showing the explosion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDfRaDY2R_Afeature=youtu.be
Craig
Good show,
Thanks, Craig.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
Short segment showing the explosion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDfRaDY2R_Afeature=youtu.be
Craig
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
So, the test is over. No good result.
Are you kidding? They successfully replicated results experienced by
both Rossi and Parkhomov. g
Did anybody else pick this up? When the explosive sequene begins at 2:30
with a bang, the radiation counter goes wild. The counter seems to
correspond with a color change in the center of the tube from white to
scarlet that proceeds left to right on the underside of the alumina tube
until all the
debatable...
-mark iverson
-Original Message-
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
Good show,
Thanks, Craig.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
[mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dog Bone Project
Good show,
Thanks, Craig.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
Short segment showing the explosion.
https://www.youtube.com
They just ran a test with a live rossi core, and the reactor exploded
and broke just as it entered the range where they were expecting the
LENR effect to begin. Temp was around 1010C or thereabouts, around 3:45
on the clock.
The broadcast is over already.
- Jed
On 02/05/2015 03:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The broadcast is over already.
They blew a fuse when the cranked up the control run to 2.2 KW. They say
they're preparing the core for another run in a little while. I hope
they have the video back for that run.
Craig
On 02/05/2015 04:03 PM, Craig Haynie wrote:
They blew a fuse when the cranked up the control run to 2.2 KW. They
say they're preparing the core for another run in a little while. I
hope they have the video back for that run.
From the Facebook page:
We just tripped the breaker trying to max
Check out this photograph:
https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/photos/a.587293604634676.1073741827.466698113360893/917327598297940/?type=1
They said it looked orange. The caption is, Silicon Carbide Element at
1400ºC internal temperature. It also looks like they've
Another live run. I believe this is one with a rossi core, but I am not
certain. They were going to do this today, and the day's almost over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=channel%3A54c99790--2767-93c9-001a1147517afeature=ivsrc_vid=yMpIxeb_L50v=-tzMEIAwG30
Craig
It was just another calibration test, and it's over now.
Craig
On 02/05/2015 06:07 PM, Craig Haynie wrote:
Another live run. I believe this is one with a rossi core, but I am
not certain. They were going to do this today, and the day's almost over.
They say that though the dog bone appears white hot on video, it
actually looks orange in person. This may explain the apparent visual
discrepancy with the photograph in the Lugano report, and the reported
temperature. It also demonstrates that you really can't trust
photography to accurately
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