Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I am simply asking ***There is nothing simple about your asking. You led with this statement: As often as I instruct your, you never learn. This stubbornness is a problem that will keep you from true understanding. you how you came to arrive at your opinion. ***I would ask the same of you, but

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Once again, you're confused. Just because someone can't explain a phenomena (like cold fusion branching) doesn't mean the phenomena doesn't exist. Rocks fell from the sky for centuries before the explanation was ever figured out. Please try to come up to speed on the process of science,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
I am simply asking you how you came to arrive at your opinion. If such a request offends you then forget this attempt at further communication. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Once again, you're confused. Just because someone can't explain a

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
near the surface yes, maybe not at the surface. the bulk seems to matter, but maybe only as surprising substrate. 2014-05-10 6:05 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: LENR always occurs on the surface of the metal. show me experimental results that contradict this fact. On Thu, May 8,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Right here, Axil: https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg91559.html On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: LENR always occurs on the surface of the metal. show me experimental results that contradict this fact. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Jed

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
I remember this picture of the volcano. It was found and misrepresented in the Brillouin energy theory document http://www.academia.edu/4206209/Brillouin_Energy_Corp._THE_QUANTUM_REACTION_HYPOTHESIS This photo is based on a piece of core from one of Roger Stringham’s sono-fusion devices.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This photo is based on a piece of core from one of Roger Stringham’s sono-fusion devices. You are failing for this propaganda that Brillouin energy is using to support their theory. This is BS. I have heard from someone

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: I have heard from someone who has done business with Brillouin in the past that one should be wary of the claims they make. I should add that I do not know the person well and cannot vouch for the accuracy of the claim of having done business with Brillouin, so take this detail for

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
You're the one falling for your own bs. You can look at a volcano and call it an impact crater. And it's not only this set of data that points to an under-surface phenomenon. Hagelstein in his recent IAP lectures said that there is not evidence to support the contention that it's a surface

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
Any references available? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote: You're the one falling for your own bs. You can look at a volcano and call it an impact crater. And it's not only this set of data that points to an under-surface phenomenon. Hagelstein

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Yes. Perhaps you should come up to speed before going into @$$#0/e mode. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Any references available? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote: You're the one falling for your own bs. You

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi's reactor reaches a burn up temperature of 2000C before the refectory outer shell of the reactor melts down. Please explain how this very high white hot temperature can be reached if the heat from LENR is generated from inside the nickel powder. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Kevin

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 8 May 2014 19:50:52 -0400: Hi, [snip] Thank you for proving my point that the cathode is an engine. ;) mix...@bigpond.com wrote: You do not calculate the energy density of engines. You calculate the energy density of fuels. (Unless as Jed

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Thu, 8 May 2014 15:54:23 -0700: Hi, [snip] Rossi's low temperature E-Cat I believe has a fixed H supply and a fixed Ni supply. They are loaded together in the sealed reactor tube at the beginning of the heating to start the reaction. Rossi's Hot Cat reactor

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, helium is not hydrogen, but still, it does indicate there is trapped gas. For palladium and deuterium, where we know 4He is produced, 4He is immobile in bulk palladium, while deuterium will escape over time. The 4He gets stuck in a way

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Agree it is relevant to power density and less so for energy density since it is only certain metal lattices that possess this property and the property is far more dependent of the broken geometries of the

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
LENR always occurs on the surface of the metal. show me experimental results that contradict this fact. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's for deuterium! No one knows what happens with H! Well, I

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-09 Thread Foks0904 .
Who's arguing to the contrary? A certain % of Helium can't be trapped in the surface layer why? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: LENR always occurs on the surface of the metal. show me experimental results that contradict this fact. On Thu, May 8, 2014

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Agree it is relevant to power density and less so for energy density since it is only certain metal lattices that possess this property and the property is far more dependent of the broken geometries of the lattice..how often and to what extent defects occur seems more important than the volume

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Thu, 8 May 2014 11:27:09 +: Hi, [snip] I disagree with this portion of your reply [snip] Since the actual source of energy is likely to be the Hydrogen in the water, not the actual cathode metal, the volume of the cathode is pretty much irrelevant

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: You do not calculate the energy density of engines. You calculate the energy density of fuels. (Unless as Jed mentioned, you are stuck with the Hydrogen in the cathode, and it is not replaceable - in which case the outlook for CF is far more restricted.) I do

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's for deuterium! No one knows what happens with H! 2014-05-08 20:50 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: First, a well-established fact: The reaction produces helium. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's for deuterium! No one knows what happens with H! Well, I suppose it produces some other gas, probably deuterium. But the point I was trying to make is that only half of the helium emerges. The rest is trapped. So there is no process going on that

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed

2014-05-08 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, helium is not hydrogen, but still, it does indicate there is trapped gas. For palladium and deuterium, where we know 4He is produced, 4He is immobile in bulk palladium, while deuterium will escape over time.