Sorry Ed, but there's a lot of muddled thinking in this little essay. Not
like you, I'm sure.
I don't want to take up much more time in this forum; it's not the place. But
if I were you, I'd get right into the history books.
Aside from the fact that since the advent of Islam, it's history
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/06/08/vo.tx.robbie.kneivel.jump.ktxa
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
what about this type of existence?
hummers as hydrogen + veg oil runners?
http://www.worldsnest.com/
http://www.angels-nest.org
kinda cute
2008/6/9 OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/06/08/vo.tx.robbie.kneivel.jump.ktxa
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Howdy Vorts,
Gosh, golly, gee folks, here we go again with the Jews and arabs. This time the
wedge is oil. The USA uses oil like toilet paper and everybuddy knows wez
intitled to it.. or we think we do. We have enough oil provided we turn off a
few lights and live like I we did back in the
From Philip (addressed to Edmund Storms):
If you want to have further discussions on this
(or Sai Baba, or Reality), you may want to ask
Steve K for my email address.
It's my understanding that when one joins the Vortex group they must
assign a personal email address. Anyone on the vortex
I was disapointed in Arata's demonstration.? ? One watt of released energy is
small comparted to the chemically released energy.? There is a show on NOVA
onel ine about the development of a new hydrogen storage metal.? The amount of
heat liberated during loading is great.? A heat exchanger has
Here's a good description of the history of Israel
and Palestine, by a jewish author:
http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/
The Hidden History of Zionism, By Ralph Schoenman
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:41:28PM -0600, Edmund Storms wrote:
I don't like the situation either, Philip. However, when a
vortex-l-request is how you subscribe/unsubscribe. The email address is
vortex-l@eskimo.com
Terry
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Harry,
I sent a response to your message (it is appended). I get an ACCESS
DENIED message when sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One watt of released energy is small comparted to the chemically
released energy.
So what? The power level of the heat from impure radium is far lower
than most chemical reactions with same mass of fuel. That proves nothing.
There is a show on NOVA onel ine
Here is a snide theorist from Central Casting:
http://missatomicbomb.blogspot.com/2008/06/gullible-part-2.html
- Jed
I have found the exchange of opinions expressed so far educational.
Let me pose a question I don't think has been explored adequately
Does anyone here imagine it conceivable that Arata's experiment points
to a practical way of scaling up the generation of heat to commercial
and industrial
On 4/6/2008 10:53 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
I am calling your bluff. ;-)
Not a bluff, though it involves some fuzzy reasoning. The difference
between a proof and an explanation has bugged me since junior high,
when I found out that most mathematical facts are
R C Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
Gosh, golly, gee folks, here we go again with the Jews and arabs. This
time the wedge is oil. The USA uses oil like toilet paper and
everybuddy knows wez intitled to it.. or we think we do. We have enough
oil provided we turn off a few lights and live like
Good question, Steven. If this method is as good as claimed, it is the
best and only method I believe that can result in a commercial device.
Earlier use of palladium black by Arata showed similar behavior. Using
this material, McKubre (SRI) replicated the claimed heat production and
produced
I read somewhere in his next experiment he plans on boiling water to make a
cup of tea.
Harry
On 9/6/2008 2:37 PM, OrionWorks wrote:
I have found the exchange of opinions expressed so far educational.
Let me pose a question I don't think has been explored adequately
Does anyone here
Harry Veeder wrote:
On 4/6/2008 10:53 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
I am calling your bluff. ;-)
Not a bluff, though it involves some fuzzy reasoning. The difference
between a proof and an explanation has bugged me since junior high,
when I found out that most
Edmund Storms wrote:
Good question, Steven. If this method is as good as claimed, it is
the best and only method I believe that can result in a commercial
device. Earlier use of palladium black by Arata showed similar
behavior. Using this material, McKubre (SRI) replicated the claimed
heat
I like all that Steven... I do tend to lecture a little (perhaps a lot); just
ask my wife...
But it doesn't really matter if nobody is paying attention to the content -
which is a human condition; we're too busy paying attention to what's going on
inside our minds by way of reaction. C'est la
Mark,
I'm tired of these people... There's a Jewish guy called Norm Finkelstein who
is both a holocaust denier and an Arab terrorist apologist (to say the least).
Then there's my favourite, Noam Chomsky. Like they say, if there are ten Jews
in a room, you'll get at least eleven opinions.
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
18 J / 6E21 atoms of D = 187 eV / D atom. This is way beyond ordinary
chemistry, but does fall right in the range of Mills energies.
Please note however, that they deliberately quench the reaction after
100 hours. If they did not do that, there is no telling
I am an Arab. Hath not an Arab eyes? Hath not an Arab hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with
the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Jew? If you prick us do
we
I wrote:
This experiment is similar to the previous experiments in many
critical ways. The fact that they were confirmed and independently
replicated is good reason to think that this experiment is also valid.
Please note I said good reason not a slam dunk. Nothing,
Nothing, NOTHING is
Will S. wrote:
. . . healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter
and summer as a Jew? If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle
us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die?
You left out the best line! The last line, forever pertinent in the
Middle East:
And
I seem not to have received that posting by Robin you quote, was it sent to the
list? I gather 180,000 J is 1W times 3600 s per hour times 50 hours (and not
100 hours), but where does that figure of 6E21 atoms of D come from?
If confirmed, the figure of 187 eV (18J/6E+21/1.6E-19 = 187) per
Not sure if you read some of the stuff I wrote; better still, read a history
book or two. Find out the history of killing and pillage of the Arab. Ask
any (Hindu) Indian about the Islamic invasion of India, wherein about 70
million people died. There is a difference between the perennial
You have a point, and personally I don't go for the God gave it to us stuff,
because I can't prove it.
But I have to ask you if you live in America, and how you feel about the white
man coming in and taking over, and, if you feel bad about it - very bad about
it - if you've ever considered
It seems a very impressive combination indeed. Those astounding AltairNano nano
titanate betteries keep coming up here, hopefully we will see them soon in an
actual product.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday,
Philip sez:
...
People are where they are because it's where they
are, as part of the dream. My approach is, live
with it. go out, have a coffee and a bagel (or some
nice organic bread) and get on with life. There's
room enough for everyone, and everyone can make good,
as long as they
I have seen a video about a Japanese motor-in-wheel electric car. Eight
wheels to get the necessary total power. Powered by a fortune in lithium ion
batteries. Outperformed top of the line gasoline race cars. This was several
years ago. I don't know if the motor technology is better now [very
Pay attention to the emerging news from Blacklight Power. An existing cell
delivers 50 kW peak power and 753 kJ from a 5 gm charge of fuel. That energy
will vaporize 8 oz. of water. An energy balance estimate from Mills says
that a 1 gigawatt power plant would consume 1 liter H20 per second.
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:51:17 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Aether theory is predicated on the notion that there is some kind of
aether which carries some kind of vibrations; as such that's a sort of
fuzzy explanation (though the
From Mike Carrell:
Pay attention to the emerging news from Blacklight Power. An
existing cell delivers 50 kW peak power and 753 kJ from a 5
gm charge of fuel. That energy will vaporize 8 oz. of water.
An energy balance estimate from Mills says that a 1 gigawatt
power plant would consume 1
Exactly.
P.
- Original Message
From: OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 9:05:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds
Philip sez:
...
People are where they are because it's where they
are, as part of the dream. My approach is, live
On 9/6/2008 7:29 PM, PHILIP WINESTONE wrote:
Not sure if you read some of the stuff I wrote; better still, read a history
book or two. Find out the history of killing and pillage of the Arab.
Ask any (Hindu) Indian about the Islamic invasion of India, wherein about 70
million people died. There
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:36:23 -0400:
Hi Stephen,
[snip]
Perhaps it becomes easier to accept, if it is not a matter of ploughing
*through* the medium. Consider how a wave passes through water. The energy of
the wave is passed from molecule to molecule,
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