OK, correcting this. I think I am mixing up MW electric and MW thermal. A
like sized region of a commercial fission core is producing about three
times this much thermal output, ~3MW. Plants of that generation are about
33% efficient so the resulting electrical output is ~1MW, which I
erroneously
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:50 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
“Would that be Russell's Teapot you're referring to?”
Oh heavens no…
It’s the Mad Hatter’s (aka, Richard Garwin) teapot, of course.
;-)
T
I find it extremely difficult to take anything AR says seriously. His
research seems to be advancing too fast even if he does have
assistance from the NRL, which I doubt would be taking place in a
warehouse in Italy.
Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
T
Terry,
His progress seems fast to you because he has figured how to warp time with
his not yet disclosed T-cat device. To him he has been working on it for
50 years . That is approx 25:1 time dilation... If you watch his hair grow
closely you can tell. :)
On Thursday, August 30, 2012, Terry
It does not look so fast if you assume that he work with a corporate team
managed by professional (ie, not him).
Moreover the result are good but not so huge, since the reactor seems still
slow to start, and activated simply by heat. COP limitation, if real, seems
simply related to simple control
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
It does not look so fast if you assume that he work with a corporate team
managed by professional (ie, not him).
I would sooner believe that Rossi's device produces 1 MW and it is a time
machine. Rossi will never work with any team, managed by anyone,
To bet in what sense? That he has a work able device or that he has
anything at all?
2012/8/30 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
as I said before, you would have to be even crazier to bet against Rossi.
- Jed
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
To bet in what sense? That he has a work able device or that he has
anything at all?
Everything that Rossi does says is in a state of Quantum Indeterminacy.
The act of betting may tilt events one way or the other. It is best not to
go there.
- Jed
Of course I agree with Jed. This is the same plague that effects all of
these devices.
Uncertainty? Instability? Unreliability? Collapsed matter? Life
imitating science? I also worry about health effects unless properly
shielded and isolated.
Stewart
http://wp.me/p26aeb-4
On Thu, Aug 30,
2012/8/30 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
To bet in what sense? That he has a work able device or that he has
anything at all?
Everything that Rossi does says is in a state of Quantum Indeterminacy.
The act of betting may tilt events one way
Only I think in the case of these devices the cat can also jump thru the
box or consume the box if he/she is large and hungry enough...
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/8/30 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Daniel Rocha
The probable reason for Rossi to give feedback on his status is getting
technical suggestions that his small team of developers is not able to
generate on such a short time frame. And he's getting a lot of free usefull
feedback at his blog.
We simply don't know the qualifications of his staff
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course I agree with Jed. This is the same plague that effects all of
these devices.
Well, not the small scale cold fusion devices at places like SRI, thank
goodness. They are established beyond any rational doubt.
If I may be a little more serious
I also performed a comparison that suggests that Rossi will do fine with the
new design. I thought about a 1 MW thermal input ICE which should deliver
around 300 kW of mechanical power on a good day. At 750 watts to a horse power
I obtain an estimate of 400 HP for the equivalent internal
Actually, I hope you are wrong. We need these systems ASAP.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 7:29 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi said...
I find it extremely difficult to take anything AR says
If Rossi says he is shocked this could mean more things:
a) he is not shocked but knows that some shocks are good in a story,
b) be he is not shocked but wants the reader be shocked;
c) he is sincerely shocked because he has found something unexpected,
surprised,
d) he has now a team working for
I tend to get bored quickly so the rate of improvements seems in line. If one
is developing a new system that has an enormous range for improvement then big
strides can be made. Once Rossi and others have achieved performance that
approaches the limit, then we can expect to see improvements
I agree, I think Rossi has come upon anomalous heat/energy like many others
including SRI, DGT, etc.
You are right, the smaller the scale, the more the reliability/less
uncertainty. Nature keeps atoms, electrons and protons small because by
themselves, they are uncertain. Orbits due to
http://media.podshow.com/media/1049/episodes/318736/pesn-318736-08-29-2012.mp3
Is a dead link.
Moreover, the link you provided was in error syntactically:
http://m.podshow.com/media/1049/episodes/318736/pesn-318736-08-29-2012.mp3Interview
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Axil Axil
This link to the audio works:
http://www.mevio.com/episode/318736/fen.120828
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
http://m.podshow.com/media/1049/episodes/318736/pesn-318736-08-29-2012.mp3Interview
Listen
On August 28, Sterling Allan conducted an interview
Hmm, a) sounds very realistic
2012/8/30 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
If Rossi says he is shocked this could mean more things:
a) he is not shocked but knows that some shocks are good in a story,
b) be he is not shocked but wants the reader be shocked;
c) he is sincerely shocked
At about 10 minutes into the interview, the question that is most relevant
crops up, which is how can one overcome the block on scientific
publication. This is most relevant because it gets to the heart science
itself, and the institutional incompetence currently besetting science.
Yes, I think
I performed additional analysis and have a couple of items to add to the
simulation results. The first one is that it is obvious that the Rossi
controlled devices operate within the thermal run away region to achieve a COP
of 6. In these cases, the positive feedback is responsible for the
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I guess my confidence in many of his statements is that they tend to be
confirmable by my model performance. If he were totally full of *** then
why insist upon a COP that is reasonable, but low, when claiming a higher
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps I sound like a Rossi fan by continuing to support his claims while
many of the other vorts seem to question them. I guess my confidence in
many of his statements is that they tend to be confirmable by my model
performance. . . .
I hope no
I wrote:
Generally speaking, in my experience, the value of a technical claim is
inversely proportional to the level of secrecy applied to it.
I am not being cynical. Well, not completely cynical. In technology, when
you make an important claim you file a patent. A patent must reveal
Great stuff Dave.
On the face of it, this Rossi reaction control mechanism seems primitive
and problematic. Do you have additional details?
When the reaction is operating at 1200C, what level of temperature spike is
required to reverse a dropping reaction temperature profile? Does the
maximum
Those are pretty tough questions for a device that is generating fission,
fusion, chemical and possibly some forms of collapsed matter, all with
different reaction kinetics, time constants and instabilities...I would
think it would be very hard to wrestle that pig to the ground (I grew up on
a
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Does the maximum level of external temperature spike ever get above 1450C
at any point?
Ah. Google tells me that is the melting point of Ni . . .
Actually, you cannot get close to a melting point without bad stuff
happening. Sintering and local melting.
Nanopowder typically melts at lower temperatures than its equivalent solid.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Does the maximum level of external temperature spike ever get above 1450C
at any point?
Ah. Google
Michael McKubre said that the reason he believes completely in the reality
of the Papp engine reaction for the last 14 years is that Papp ran a full
demo of his engine in front of patent examiners to their total satisfaction
using a dynamometer… it worked as advertised. On the strength of this
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The Papp engine is the only LENR device that has ever been patented.
What makes you think it is LENR? I guess in the broader sense it probably
is, but I doubt it has anything to do with hydride cold fusion (the F-P
effect).
But, who knows?!
Until it is
At 12:50 PM 8/30/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
Michael McKubre said that the reason
he believes completely in the reality of the Papp engine reaction for the
last 14 years is that Papp ran a full demo of his engine in front of
patent examiners to their total satisfaction using a dynamometer
it
worked
I think the Papp engine is electric charge accumulation, magnetic
alignment, compression and collapse followed by an instant energy burst.
Same thing happening in the voids/cracks of the lattice each pop of DGT's
spark plugs.
I think we saw yesterday that TerraWatt Research LLC also has a patent
Axil, the only details that I have are the ones that have been published on
Rossi's Journal and other public information. My model is based upon some
assumptions that I will attempt to explain. I would like very much for you or
others to contribute to the simulation if possible.
The first
Let’s use some Rothmen logic here. How can plasma be produced if the
temperature of the engine is just warm to the touch? How can 500 HP be
produced sustainably without the presence of huge external electrical feed
that is easily detectable?
Michael McKubre is a man of common sense; according to
In the name of homeland security from the Gray Lady op:
http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/08/22/opinion/10001733041/the-program.html
T
Correction: Rothmen logic should have been Jed Rothwell logic…
as demonstrated in the touch test by an observer of a hot Rossi reactor to
prove over unity and life after death during late stage of the demo
conducted by Rossi just before the last public October demo/test conducted
by/for the
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Those are pretty tough questions for a device that is generating fission,
fusion, chemical and possibly some forms of collapsed matter, all with
different reaction kinetics, time constants and instabilities...
Someone is
In reply to Akira Shirakawa's message of Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:32:07 +0200:
Hi,
One drawback I foresee is that by packing them all together in a small
container, he is making it difficult to replace an individual unit on the fly.
IOW it may be difficult to extract a single defective unit while
Some model concepts:
First, if we assume that there is a functional relationship between the power
output of a mass of Rossi's material and the temperature to which it is
subjected there will be a slope to that curve around the operating temperature.
A test fixture might be constructed that
Sounds like a pretty effective test. It is apparent that the Papp device, if
real, is not a heat engine due to the cool touch. I suspect LENR activity
working in conjunction with some form of electric motor behavior. The axial
magnetic field would give the ions a twist in direction that
In-situ HRTEM obeservations of CNT tip growth in a small gas-reaction CVD cell
of nickel nanoparticle catalyst reveal that the nickel nanoparticle was
changing shape indicating that they were in liquid form at a temperature of
600C. I suspect iron nanoparticles would also be in liquid state
I like D here; He has 83 people working for him in his company. Delegating
reactor packaging to a mechanical engineering group seems reasonable to me
because this activity does not involve entrusting the secret sauce to
somebody else.
Cheers: Axil
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Peter Gluck
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
It is all the same effect aided by quantum level gravitational attraction
finishing the collapse.
I am going to continue pounding that thought into everyone's collective
brains.
Stewart
http://wp.me/p26aeb-4
Papp/rohners mentioned it starts overheating above 2800 rpm. If the effect
releases a large spectrum of radiation/charged particles only a portion
might get absorbed locally resulting in heat. The rest might pass right
out of the device after also propelling the piston
On Thursday, August 30,
I hear what you are saying JoJo, but Rossi says he will use natural gas
only for external power in his 1200C reactor. This means that the reactor
is still thermionic in nature (No nanotubes). He could be using tungsten
carbide as the micro powder(4 microns) to avoid sintering.
Cheer: Axil
Or it might be that after 3 years he does not yet have a stable reactor,
like DGT, Rohners, Terrawatt, etc. these things might last for a short
period of time for a demo but then break down in short order. They run
just long enough to show a patent officer or inspector or investor...
On
A patent is not the only way to protect an idea. In practice, trade secret
law may be more important. This is particularly true when the idea to be
protected is not the product itself, but the process used to produce it.
Consider the high-K metal gate process used by Intel at the 45nm and 32nm
Terry,
That is a good paper that I need to reference. I see it more like alot of
different research/results are pointing us in a common direction. I am
trying to piece together alot of observations and other theories, some from
astro physics and some from nuclear physics and some from just
Axil, This study concludes that tungsten sintering starts at 800-900C
http://scholarworks.boisestate.edu/td/239/
In particular, check out this statement
Densification of tungsten and tungsten with 10 weight percent ceria begins
between 800 and 900 ºC and densities greater than 90% can be
Item E Independent test showed no anomalous energy.
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi said...
I like D here; He has 83 people working for him in his company. Delegating
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:51 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Sometimes I think scientists seem so bent on one theory that fits their
discipline that they close their eyes to others.
When a scientist becomes an expert in his field, he has his entire
life invested in the paradigm.
Thanks Stewart,
Yes, I have been saying the same thing for quite a while. Miley showed a long
time ago that is was the fission of a compound nucleus. Many nucleons acting
as one. How can that be? The nucleus are of Fermi meter dimensions and the
inter nuclear spacing is in angstroms?
a version of this was published in IE in 1995.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter5.html
When I see/read something like the following
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosenova
I think that the magnetic fields created across a void/gap due to charge
concentrations must align the condensate atoms such that the repulsion
between atoms within the condensate is reduced further allowing
Subject: Its all in the questions you ask
The questions asked by Storms, Miley, Widdom Larson, and just abut every
nuclear scientist and person on this list are:
How is the electrostatic repulsion of the nucleons overcome at low energy?
Why does the transit over the potential barrier not
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I wanted to mention one observation that is fairly important. If you set
the upper turn around timing extremely critically, it is possible to get a
very large COP. The reason is that the time constants associated with
My model is really quite simple and does not handle sintering of the materials.
The turn around temperature can be set by adjusting the parameters of the
model and is chosen to approach the real world information that is available.
As you know, Rossi does not give out very much to work with.
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