If the past is prolog, China will be the major mover and the first adopter
of the green LENR technology. Controls and regulation on the LENR reactor
design, production and sales will not exist and the production of reactors
will be spread far and wide throughout the Chinese industrial base. China
Axil, I agree completely with your very clear description of how China
will lead the way. The West has given China the technology, the money,
and the incentive to become the next world leader. The US, on the
other hand, is doing everything it can to reduce its influence and
future
I agree.
It remind me the collapse of Rome, or what Assimov wrote in Foundation
trilogy...
Even if a western genious could save our dominance, we would forbide him to
do it...
Ooops... it is what is happening... with many examples...
2014/1/5 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Axil, I
As the U.S. will soon become the world leader in fossil fuel development
and worldwide sales well into this century, it is not in the interest of
Russia, the U.S. or its other energy producing allies to sponsor a
competitive or more rightly a superior energy source. If the past is
prolog, the U.S.
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
As the U.S. will soon become the world leader in fossil fuel development
and worldwide sales well into this century, it is not in the interest of
Russia, the U.S. or its other energy producing allies to sponsor a
competitive or more rightly a superior
I always welcome your optimism about the future, Jed, and you can be
counted on to give the counter argument. However, I think you are
missing several unique features of LENR that will cause the future to
be different from how normal events take place.
Unlike most technologies, even the
Well put Ed Storms. Jed as always is a cornucopian. LENR has a huge
political foot print in the U.S; Five million very high paying jobs are at
stake in the energy production segments and fuel transportation and
distribution economy.
In the immediate first pass, all those jobs whose average
For your collection:
http://news.discovery.com/space/is-earth-surrounded-by-dark-matter-140103.htm
Terry,
Thanks, yeah, I think we know the effects of these dark matter strings up
high as our magnetosphere
as they decay in lower energies and interact with molecules they form the
ionosphere
as they decay into the lower atmosphere they create low pressure and
electromagnetic disturbances we
Doom and gloom.
Self fulfilling prophecy.
I think you are right to be cautious. I agree with that there are reasons
to say that China and other not so well off countries will be able to swing
forward because they might see the opportunity and are 'hungry'.. In itself
that is positive. I think you
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Unlike most technologies, even the new ones, a huge basic understanding is
normally in place on which understanding of the new idea can be
constructed. This is not the case with LENR. No one has a basic
understanding how it works. Success has
On Jan 5, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Unlike most technologies, even the new ones, a huge basic
understanding is normally in place on which understanding of the new
idea can be constructed. This is not the case with LENR. No one has
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Well put Ed Storms. Jed as always is a cornucopian.
I am, but that has nothing to do with it. I was educated in the U.S. and
Japan, and I learned a lot about Chinese literature, history and
anthropology. I know that Asian people and their cultures have no
Lennant, this is neither gloom or self-fulfilling prophecy. It is an
effort to get the ignorant to pay attention to a serious threat. I
used global warming as an example because it has the same
characteristics. The ignorant will not accept the advice of
knowledgeable people in this example
*That is nonsense. Americans are no better or worse at teaching or learning
than anyone else. I attended elite universities in the U.S. and Japan. I
assure you, Asian kids are no smarter than Americans, Europeans, Russians
or Africans, and no culture has any special ability to educate people.*
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Rossi clearly does not understand how the effect works. He was lucky and is
now trying to find out why.
No one is that lucky. He knows a lot, and he and his coworkers are learning
more every day.
We have no way of knowing what the Chinese have
There is a fundamental sociological difference between LENR energy
production and the current energy infrastructure.
10s of millions of people worldwide are employed by the current energy
infrastructure. It is one of the only economic areas that remain that are
rich enough to provide a living
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The numbers are even more sobering when compared among only the 34 OECD
countries. The United States ranked 26th in math — trailing nations such as
the Slovakia, Portugal and Russia. What’s more, American high school
students dropped to 21st in science
Gentlemen:
The best of the best in the US are as good as the best of the best in the rest
of the world. Only the best of the best drive technology in today's world,
most of the population are not needed to drive the economy and those needed are
shrinking everyday.
Also, you can't hide
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
10s of millions of people worldwide are employed by the current energy
infrastructure. It is one of the only economic areas that remain that are
rich enough to provide a living wage.
That is not the case in the U.S. or Japan. See the Bureau of Labor
Something I noticed while doing space policy legislation was that in the
post Apollo era the Soviets were delivering a lot more bang for the buck
than NASA -- I mean a _lot_ more. My diagnosis of that phenomenon that
goes against the grain of both socialists and libertarians, is simply that
NASA
Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com wrote:
The best of the best in the US are as good as the best of the best in the
rest of the world. Only the best of the best drive technology in today's
world, most of the population are not needed to drive the economy and those
needed are shrinking
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
So how does this relate to China?
China seems to be pursuing a hybrid command economy not unlike that often
called fascism.
Yes, there are many similarities. And we should note that the German
fascist economy of the 1930s produce a lot of good
Looks like Frank Acland has scored another huge News scoop
on the possible Rossi - China connection
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/01/darden-china-meeting-signing-ceremony-for-
technology-park-with-nickel-reactor-new-energy-project/
Can the nickel reactor new energy
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:58 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
China seems to be pursuing a hybrid command economy not unlike that often
called fascism. ... Which is superior when it comes to exploiting
technological opportunities?
China seems to be pursuing the path that Singapore
Ok Jed, let me summarize what you believe. We have nothing to worry
about. We only need to keep doing what we are doing and everything
will work out. If China figures out how LENR works, the rest of the
world will know immediately and will able to compete without having to
do anything
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
This is the 21st century. There are no secrets. If Rossi installs a dozen
heaters in factories in the U.S. -- as he plans to do -- everyone in the
world will soon know about it, and they will understand the significance.
So, what are these
Ed Storms, yes it is gloom and the only reason is disbelieve in a positive
attitude.I agree that it has similarities with global warming problems,
when it comes to difficulties to communicate. Something several people has
mentioned. The big difference is that LENR has a positive message with
Concerning the possibility that China will quietly pursue LENR technology
with the help of Rossi's knowledge transfer and then break out all of a
sudden, this is something to think about. Doing this could give them an
edge over western countries, where entrenched interests are threatened by
LENR
Greetings Vortex-L,
Just saw this.
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/03/19/Screen%20Shot%202012-03-19%20at%204.54.00%20PM.png
Physics a good grade.
No grade for CMNS.
Ad Astra,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Ed Storms,
I think you underestimate Rossi by saying he doesn't understand it.
Consider that he has access to the data and others don't.Consider how
quickly he devised the Hot Cat after the E-Cats.
Further, I think future progress is already more of a control and
engineering problem than a
After developing my latest computer thermal feedback model of Rossi's ECAT, I
realized that it would be a good exercise to look back at some of the earlier
demonstrations that he conducted to see if the data presented made sense from
my model's perspective. After a lot of staring and playing
*That will be their problem. It will not stop the people who build
factories.*
Spoken like an insensitive plutocrat that these words reveal you to be. But
this is how it is all over the world today and the advent of LENR will
unfortunately not affect this attitude in the least.
Like you,
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