Re: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think we are going to find that LENR, which I think is a form of Dark Energy is really caused from the inflation of Dark Matter which, like you say is a DDL form of hydrogen making up the fabric of space. I think LENR happens all of the time in our atmosphere and is the energy behind our

RE: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jones Beene Oops typo. should be: Therefore, a logical conclusion is that dark matter is most likely a degenerate from of light matter, meaning that it is mostly hydrogen in a different and denser form. BTW - This would be the same species as seen in the many Holmlid/Miley papers,

RE: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: Lewan Mats http://phys.org/news/2015-02-presence-dark-milky.html This story very likely relates to the Rossi/Parkhomov results (which probably explains why Mats posted it). Although cosmologists do not know the composition of dark matter... We know that dark matter is needed in our

Re: [Vo]:Titanium as hydrogen carrier in Improved experiment

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Cook
Dave, Jack, etal-- I concur with Dave’s comment. You want negative temperature feedback, at least in the range of temperatures you want to operate. The same idea is used in the dynamics and control of slow neutron, water cooled fission reactors. The objective in this reactor is to keep

RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Hauke Hein
hi,one way to cool the inner reactortube by convection rapidly would be in case of a beginning runaway, release compressed air or carbon dioxidby a computer controlled solenoid valve that would cool the space outside the reactor tube wherethe heatercoil is located by discharging the cold gas

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
THat Bang that MFMP got was an instantaneous explosion. There was no delay in in the speed of the explosive reaction. You cannot remove heat fast enough to stop that bang. On the other hand, Jack Cole has a very slow reaction rise rate. What makes the difference between these to systems. I put

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
It is a bit more complicated than what your initial thoughts are Bob. If you consider that the total power that must be radiated, convected, and conducted away from the device is equal to the sum of the input plus the internally generated power, you will realize that if the input is eliminated

RE: [Vo]:Titanium as hydrogen carrier in Improved experiment

2015-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: torulf.gr...@bredband.net Ø Having titanium hydride as hydrogen carrier may not be so good because the H2 will come to an equilibrium between Ti and Ni. And the H loading will be lower. Yes, but loading does not matter, and a state of dynamic equilibrium between Ti and Ni is precisely

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
Jack Cole's calibration could be invalid, but if the Cole experiment is good, his experiment might show that the key to when LENR is seen and how strong it is may be a function of when nano particles are produced and activated by hydrogen and oxigen. At low temperatures, Jack could be seeing the

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts like a bias that stands behind the incremental behavior. If that bias is quickly removed then there should exist a point of operation that is located ahead of the dangerous region. Unless some strong memory exists, I can

RE: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Jones: Oops typo. should be: Therefore, a logical conclusion is that dark matter is most likely a degenerate from of light matter, meaning that it is mostly hydrogen in a different and denser form. BTW - This would be the same species as seen in the many Holmlid/Miley papers,

[Vo]:we need a tranquilizer for the LENR Djinn!

2015-02-10 Thread Peter Gluck
I have published: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/the-lenr-djinn-is-in-bottle-keep-him.html It is about disputes helping LENR+ by Doug Marker and me, about how to keep the LENR djinn in his bottle and about daily news. We need more and better LENR news. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj,

RE: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
Contrary to popular belief, Mills was not the first to suggest the fractional hydrogen state, even if many of his supporters want to give him that status. Dr. Robert Carroll predicted fractional quantum states of hydrogen in 1976 in a published book: The Eternity Equation, and there were others.

[Vo]:Some limits of Gullström’s theory for the E-Cat

2015-02-10 Thread Lewan Mats
http://www.ecat-thenewfire.com/blog/limits-gullstrom-theory-neutron-tunneling/ Discussing the draft theory by Swedish PhD student Carl Oscar Gullström, trying to explain the results in the Lugano report through the idea of bound neutron tunneling. Mats

SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Lewan Mats
I could add this quote from my book, describing what Giuseppe Levi told me about experiments with the Hotcat back in 2012, when the device was destroyed by thermal run-away. That's two and a half years ago. When they disassembled the reactor they found that the ceramic shield containing the

SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Lewan Mats
David, It's always interesting to read your analyses of the energetic and thermal dynamics of LENR systems. They deserve more attention. I find your model with three types of systems convincing, and I think it is obvious from what Rossi told me many times about his experiments that the

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
Terry, I assume that you do not believe that LENR had anything to do with what happened. There may be another explanation but it appears that the same thing occurred during several different, yet related experiments. Take time to consider why you are convinced that a thermal run away

Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
Mats, Thanks. I can imagine that Rossi performed a large balancing act as he adjusted the variables in order to achieve a well working design. I hope that he has been able to construct a type 2 structure that achieves excellent levels of COP and stable operation at the same time. It likely

Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
That seems like a good quote to add Mats. I have a strong suspicion that you will have several more to add in the next few months as people experiment with these latest devices. There is little doubt that many are going to melt down as the fuel within them is adjusted. It will also be

[Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread Lewan Mats
http://phys.org/news/2015-02-presence-dark-milky.html Mats www.animpossibleinvention.comhttp://www.animpossibleinvention.com

[Vo]:REVERSIBLE SPOILER

2015-02-10 Thread Hauke Hein
Hi , Further back I had some ideas how to use mirrors in order toregulate the reaktor temperature. Maybe that could be usedas a reversible spoiler: Shutting down the inputpower to the reaktor would be one way. I was thinking if one would start the operation of the reaktorwith my

RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Mon Feb 9 David said [snip] Since the original product was very close to becoming unstable, with the increase in gain the latest experiment most likely resulted in a situation where the positive feedback gain exceeded unity. This is just another way of saying that a negative resistance

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
The best spoiler may be variable heat sinking that takes more energy away as reaction become more robust to throttle it back below the threshold – then perhaps the drive pwm could push it back above on a duty factor basis. IMHO the dynamic thermal loading may become more important than the

RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts like a bias that stands behind the incremental behavior. If that bias is quickly removed then there should exist a point of operation that is located ahead of the dangerous region. Unless some strong

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
Pulse power is the way to go. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* David Roberson Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts like a bias that stands behind the incremental behavior. If that bias is quickly removed then

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
I agree with you Fran that an ideal solution would be to kill the positive feedback gain in some controlled manner. That could likely be done as you are discussing by taking more power from the core than it needs to self sustain. Once this happens the core temperature movement should reverse

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Some limits of Gullström’s theory for the E-Cat

2015-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
I say that LENR is using SUSY to produce a combined fundamental force as explained in your other thread. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Lewan Mats mats.le...@nyteknik.se wrote: http://www.ecat-thenewfire.com/blog/limits-gullstrom-theory-neutron-tunneling/ Discussing the draft theory by

RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Yes! What Jones said :_) and the 95% off time is long enough for a heavy load of coolant to drag the threshold over a larger window – allowing more time for a feedback loop to hone in on the sweet spot without self destructing. Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent:

Re: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html When the geometry of General relativity is changed to reflect quantum mechanics, the rework predicts a universe without a big bang. But more importantly, the integration of quantum mechanics into general relativity predicts that the

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Au contraire, mon ami. Just the opposite. When I posted this: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg101517.html I was returned a lot of skepticism. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:26 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Terry, I assume that you do not believe that LENR had

RE: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Thanks for the history lesson on the provenance of fractional quantum states, Jones. I was not aware of the fact there had been so many prior BLP interpretations involving fractional states of the Hydrogen atom. Should Mills be so lucky as to collect a Nobel prize he may need to share it with many

Re: [Vo]:New study confirms the presence of dark matter in the inner part of the Milky Way

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
An interesting idea that I recently pursued might offer some insight into this discussion. A few weeks ago I spoke of my thoughts that the mass of an electron might be distributed throughout the field in the form of field energy. This would be established by using Einstein's equation that

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
Jones, When I first began modeling the ECAT several years ago I used exactly the concept that you are suggesting. It did in fact appear to yield a COP of 6 or in that vicinity with careful adjustment of the PWM drive waveform. I used the duty cycle that Rossi had revealed within his blog

Re: [Vo]:Re: Dog Bone Project

2015-02-10 Thread Mark Jurich
New MFMP Charge Analysis regarding the Explosion Run: http://bit.ly/1z61hEB (5 hours ago) This is a shocker to me. Here are the changes to the last values (first analysis): Free Volume for Gas: 1.09 ml -- 1.06 ml (not a large change) (Recall that Parkhomov estimates 2 ml in his

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread David Roberson
That might be the ticket...no reason to cease searching. At this point it is necessary for us to understand exactly what caused the explosion event. Does the fuel have hot spots that go into thermal runaway rapidly at some point? Are there other types of fuels that are more uniform in

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
Pity we can't identify a moderator which begins consuming or absorbing H at 1057. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
The way Lithium hydride give off or absorbs Hydrogen is a function of the pressure of hydrogen that LiH is under . High enough pressure will get LiH to perform as you want at 1057. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:05 AM, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Pity we can't identify a

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Higgins
Having a switching control of the heater bias is not at all going to fix a reactor that is unstable once it reaches a critical temperature. Such a reactor will continue to rise in temperature with NO input at all (pulse width =0). Such devices as have been shown today have essentially a fixed

Re: [Vo]:we need a tranquilizer for the LENR Djinn!

2015-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
The Standard Model has worked beautifully to predict what high energy experiments have shown so far about the basic building blocks of matter, but just about all physicists recognize that it is incomplete. This backbone theory requires new particles to solve a major problem with the Standard

Re: [Vo]:Titanium as hydrogen carrier in Improved experiment

2015-02-10 Thread torulf.greek
Having titanium hydride as hydrogen carrier may not be so good because the H2 will come to an equilibrium between Ti and Ni. And the H lading will be lesser. Better is to pre load the Ni. On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:42:01 +, Bob Cook wrote: Dave, Jack, etal-- I concur with Dave's