John Berry wrote:
On 8/31/06, *Jones Beene* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This message came form Terry Holmes:
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His presentation pretty much consisted of the 2005
Naudin results
with photos from the web site from last
summer--complete with
Wesley Bruce wrote:
Your overlooking the problem of patents. The patent will not be
allowed if the theory is disputed and it gets worse if there is no
theory at
Patents are intended to protect applications.
The discussion about the Steorm machine caused me to recall a patent for
a
Terry Blanton wrote:
String theory is dead.
Hum, There is a physics professor Dr. Gates. I listened to him lecture
on the matter. He believes that String Theory is very much alive. I
intend to send him an email with Dale Pond's URL and my comment that
Keely's work reminds me of String
Harry Veeder wrote:
This might be an example of why credentials matter
when a significant discovery is made. Maybe Romagnosi was ignored
because his was viewed as an amateur??
It's from histories such as this one that I have finally come to
the conclusion that really original discoveries are
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Here's an interview with Steorn, done by the Steornwatch website guy
Steornwatch show, interview with Steorn
http://tinyurl.com/od2zz
A few highlights:
- They already tried to do it quietly. Several scientists in Europe, UK,
and Ireland have already fully analyzed the invention. But
On 9/1/06, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hum, There is a physics professor Dr. Gates. I listened to him lecture
on the matter. He believes that String Theory is very much alive. I
intend to send him an email with Dale Pond's URL and my comment that
Keely's work reminds me of String
On 9/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Communication - Crystals have the ability to transfer energy, to retain
it, to maintain its intensity, to focus and transmit it over great
distance to similar receivers as are equal or comparable to the
transmitter.
And are often used in
I get what you mean with regard to the peepshow comment, yes it would be nice if when practical he closed the loop or did something to make it more final.What would you have had him do in the case of
Mizuno though? (I haven't looked much or at all at the replication in question)As for the MAHG I
Seriously? I mistakenly use Sterling instead of Stirling and you see fit to remark, but Harriet posts some very hard to entertain (even if your open minded) new age stuff about Atlantis and crystals somehow relating to a magnetic perpetual motion machines and you decide to contribute?
On 9/1/06,
Dr. Zimmerman was kind enough to post an interesting STEORN article, which quotes McCarthy, on the YAHOO Hydrino Discussion group. See:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2331264,00.html
http://tinyurl.com/ztfys
TITLE: Inventor keeps his perpetual motion machine under a cloak of
Of course there are those that claim that, but this isn't about seperation and recombination of H2 and O but of H and H.On 9/1/06, thomas malloy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:John Berry wrote: On 8/31/06, *Jones Beene*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message came form Terry
OTOH, I recall a man who build a F E circuit which worked by microwaveradiation from a near by source.Who?On 9/1/06,
thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wesley Bruce wrote: Your overlooking the problem of patents. The patent will not be allowed if the theory is disputed and it gets worse if
On 9/1/06, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seriously? I mistakenly use Sterling instead of Stirling and you see fit to
remark, but Harriet posts some very hard to entertain (even if your open
minded) new age stuff about Atlantis and crystals somehow relating to a
magnetic perpetual motion
Neither you in mine.I was wondering if it was a joke but couldn't be bothered trying to figure of if anything called a heterodyne mixer might just exist, it sound like vaguely plausible if obscure technobabble.
And papers have been accepted with just such bogus technobabble of course, what, you
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From:
John Berry
As for the MAHG I can't seem to find the group, if you can locate either
the post or the group that would be great.
It is a Yahoo Group: aH-gen
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aH-gen/
The archives are public, search for
Don't know if this has been posted before:http://www.relativitychallenge.comSR has been invalidated plenty based on logic and experiment, now the math finally gets what's coming to it.
Title: Re: [Vo]: Challenges are popular.
Great link.
I can appreciate the difference the author makes between complete
and incomplete coordinate systems.
Harry
John Berry wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted before:
http://www.relativitychallenge.com
SR has been invalidated plenty
The mathematically inclined might like to study this.
http://members.ispwest.com/r-logan/narrative.html
The possibility of squaring the circle was proven impossible in the late
1800's. The quest to the square the circle, like the quest for free
energy, is now considered the domain of cranks
At 02:50 am 02/09/2006 +1200, you wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted before:
http://www.relativitychallenge.com
Interesting - Looks good to me.
Frank
Vorts,
Will this technique also work for (generating via electrolysis ), hydrogen
peroxide?
http://www.stifflerscientific.com/
Thanks.
Colin
This guy revisits the ancient problem of squaring the circle
and shows that it is possible to square the circle _exactly_ and not just
approximately.
In the late 19th century pi was shown not to be an _algebraic_ number.
He does not challenge that proof.
What he has done is invalidate the
Suppose you stumbled across the same thing that Steorm did. Apparently
those guys aren't aquainted with the history of FE fiascos. (For example,
what will they do when the burglaries start, or the anonymous death
threats are phoned in against their families?)So, knowing what you
know, what
Colin!
If you are asking about the CRE approach (?), the answer is Yes, but!, CRE
does have some limitations and those rap around the difference in AC and DC.
As most will agree a capacitor is great for passing AC yet is a great
storage device for DC. The CRE uses a capacitor in series with the
On 9/1/06, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suppose you stumbled across the same thing that Steorm did.
I'd do exactly what Paul Sprain did. Once you get the patent, publish
enough information on the web that anyone with a little engineering
experience could replicate the device. Then
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 9/1/06, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hum, There is a physics professor Dr. Gates. I listened to him lecture
on the matter. He believes that String Theory is very much alive. I
intend to send him an email with Dale Pond's URL and my comment that
Keely's
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, William Beaty wrote:
So, knowing what you know, what would you do differently?
Me, I'd firmly decide that already some better people than I had utterly
failed to find a way to make any money off such a discovery. It's just
too big.
By having a family who could receive
No disrespect in any way, BUT are not the attorneys the ones making the
money here? If you have enough money to take this approach then why bother
in the first place.
I have been on this earth for 69 years now and have seen business and
honesty go from a hand shake or a persons word to having
Simple
There are those that believe in the MIB's and those that are MIB's that say
they do not exist and the whole idea of suppression is CRAP!
You will not make Billions of dollars from any FE device, Period! Once you
find a key to the door the rest of the collective of minds will jump in
In regard to the spreading of plans, it is true that few people will
bother to build anything BUT I am unaware of any real Free energy
device out there, in the big
wide world that actually works. Almost without exception, such claims
are vague as to critical details and disappointing as to
William Beaty wrote:
Suppose you stumbled across the same thing that Steorm
did. Apparently those guys aren't aquainted with the history of FE
fiascos. (For example, what will they do when the burglaries start,
or the anonymous death threats are phoned in against their families?)
These
Willis Jenkin wrote:
There are those that believe in the MIB's and those that are MIB's that say
they do not exist and the whole idea of suppression is CRAP!
Cold fusion is the only 100% certified definitely-does-exists
anomalous form of energy. I am dead center in the cold fusion
business.
Jed sez:
...
> The Steorm people, in common with many cold fusion
> researchers, seem to be very anxious to convince
> mainstream skeptics that their claims are real.
> They are determined to publish papers in leading
> journals such as Nature, which is (literally) the last
> place on earth
Knowing what Steorn apparently know I would do pretty much what Steorn has done.Knowing what I know first I would pick friends and tell them everything, have them work with me in the workshop to replicate everything, they would know everything I would know.
After having about 20 such people
Schopenhauer on the three stages of truth:
First, ridicule; Second, vigorous opposition; Third, acceptance as
self-evident.
Swami Vivekananda:
Each work has to pass through these stages‹ridicule, opposition, and then
acceptance. Those who think ahead of their time are sure to be
misunderstood.
I to this day remember how I revolted against my German born grandfather
that told me, Son I have been there, I have made the mistakes, maybe not
all, but enough to help you get a good footing in life with little danger
and a possible good ending.
God! how I hated hearing that. I was young and
Hi Willis
Yes thanks, the CRE, but on re-reading it just now they seem to be using
too high a voltage. 12 volts onto a two plate cell? (That may be only a
single test cell?..but..)
http://www.stifflerscientific.com/
On that CRE circuit diagram it looks as if it will be pulsating saw-tooth
Willis, wouldn't the first thing to do- being to set the voltage into the
endothermic region? And then adjust all the variables [one at a time] from
that point? The voltage utilized was over 12 volts
Ok. here it is. I found the reasoning for why that was done :-))
(to answer my own
Zell, Chris wrote:
The problem with the examples you cite are that the industries that
were overcome DID NOT see it coming- and so did not suppress the
competition accordingly.
Incorrect. In the examples I gave, everyone saw it coming, but they
underestimated the extent of the changes. In the
In reply to Willis Jenkin's message of Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:23:43
-0700:
Hi,
[snip]
So what do we do with the energy service industry?, the
production, support and scientific staff now employed by the existing
infrastructure? Do we all chip in and put them on ware fare?
I am going far to far here,
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