Steven Vincent Johnson wrote on 2-25-09:
``Thomas, You have stated most succinctly that in order to
be accepted in what seems (at least to me) to comprise a
very exclusive membership for acceptance to The Rapture ...
Thomas wrote:
A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring
about the
thomas malloy wrote:
Contact Minnesota's Senator, Amy Klobuchar. She read my letter on
stopping the suppression . . .
I will send her a version of my letter to Obama, which is here:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm
- Jed
leaking pen wrote:
My thought has always been, if god created man in his own image, and
man is inherently sinful...
No, no, you don't have that right.
God created the angels, the Nephilim, and the human race, but His track
record, which is documented in the Bible along with various
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Incidentally, if God used one of Adam's ribs to create Eve,
Adam's ribs, mmm!
http://www.adamsribs.com/
Terry
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for taking the time to express your POV on this interesting subject.
I enjoyed your dry sense of humor, rare that it was, that occasionally
poked through the rhetoric and ideology.
IMHO, your sense of humor is very wise. Hopefully there may come a
time when you may allow
Stephen sez:
...
Whatever, if the lot of you are going to pursue this silly subject,
at least try to get the references right, and don't just *ignore*
the ones you don't like.
(BTW the Bible actually looks a lot more consistent if we (a)
abandon the zero-error approach and (b) attempt to
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between, if evil did not yet exist?
Also, theres no good quote showing that satans fall DEFINATELY
happened after man was created, no?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence
This is the first key to Obama's brilliant energy plan:
http://tinyurl.com/dfrew7
or
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2009/02/researchers-biofuels-can-provide-viable-sustainable-solution-to-reducing-petroleum-dependence-by-2030
The second key is the plug-in automobile -
leaking pen wrote:
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between, if evil did not yet exist?
Hmmm, interesting question! I'm glad you asked me that, young man!
Next question, please!
(Errr... Perhaps God's ability to foretell the
Yes, but why do we have to keep burning stuff?
Harry
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From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:06 pm
Subject: [Vo]:The key to self-sufficient Energy
This is the first key to Obama's brilliant energy plan:
http://tinyurl.com/dfrew7
Im saying, especially with the power shown in names by god (Giving to
Adam the power to name all animals, and thus control them by their
name) ect, wouldn't creating a tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
and naming it as such, basically CREATE the concept of evil, if it did
not already exist?
Jones Beene wrote:
Sit back and shut-up, or change you tired old spiel - that is the
best thing you can do for us now, Neo-cons and assorted Rush-Bimbo-ites.
I assume this is addressed to William Kristol, who wrote today:
Republicans need to find reasons to obstruct and delay Obama's agenda.
OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for taking the time to express your POV on this interesting subject.
I enjoyed your dry sense of humor, rare that it was, that occasionally
poked through the rhetoric and ideology.
IMHO, your sense of humor is very wise. Hopefully there may come a
time
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
leaking pen wrote:
My thought has always been, if god created man in his own image, and
man is inherently sinful...
No, no, you don't have that right.
I agree, it was Lucifer's rebellion that brought sin into the world.
God created the angels, the
leaking pen wrote:
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between, if evil did not yet exist?
Good question, I wonder what the Zohar has to say about it.
Also, theres no good quote showing that satans fall DEFINATELY
happened
Jones Beene wrote:
Sit back and shut-up, or change you tired old spiel - that is the
best thing you can do for us now, Neo-cons and assorted Rush-Bimbo-ites.
Jed wrote:
I assume this is addressed to William Kristol, who wrote today:
Republicans need to find reasons to obstruct and delay
Are you suggesting that the 4th planet is what happened the first time
Satan got uppity?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote:
leaking pen wrote:
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between,
Hi Thomas,
Well just keep this in mind, the world's condition continues to
deteriorate, and time will not be yours for ever.
I never owned time to begin with.
FWIW, some of the worst experiences in my life occurred when I
attempted to own and subsequently control time.
My two cents.
Regards
OrionWorks wrote:
Let me repeat that:
...NEED TO FIND REASONS to obstruct and delay Obama's agenda...
What an incredibly revealing sentence.
Does he know what he said?
It is hilarious. BUT that was the teaser headline. It could be that a
Washington Post copy editor composed it, and
Jed -
Jindal's comments are an example of the lingering anti-technology,
anti-science attitude of the Bush administration and the Republican
Party. Unfortunately, there is a lot of this attitude in the rest of
A demagogue takes things out of context and twists them, weaving truthful
content
Rick Monteverde wrote:
Jindal was correctly pointing out that volcano monitoring, worthy as
it may be, is just an example of the far-fetched things that should
NOT be in an emergency economic recovery plan. Volcano monitoring
money should be spent, IMO, and everybody, including I would say
Rapa Nui, a few generations ago: Keep carving that basalt, citizens. Your
intellectually superior rulers know that the only way to get out of this
crisis is to spend the last of our strength and dimensionally significant
forest resources in carving out and dragging these giant Tikis to the other
Let me emphasize again that I am talking here only about volcano
monitoring. Rick Monteverde and Jindal may be correct about the
overall recovery plan. I have not looked at it. For all I know, it
could be 90% pork and wasted money on unnecessary functions of
government. Naturally I understand
Jed -
... you are not familiar with modern volcano monitoring.
Not that you would know anything about me or the ideas and interests I've
discussed here all these years, but do you even consider where I live, who I
have worked with here, and what I live ON? (Hint: I'll spot you a 'v', an
'o',
Random thought: Americans are largely Sino phobic. Maybe that's useful: a
cold fusion gap with the Chicoms. We must catch up! Not being entirely
facetious here. I know the media dumps on LENR, but they really have ZER0
loyalty to any position they seem to be taking. It's whatever works for them
at
Rick Monteverde wrote:
Instead we cripple ourselves and spend what may be the last of our
economic cred in the world on monitoring volcanoes and such. Got
proof the monitoring we now have is inadequate to inform for public
safety? Of course you don't. It isn't.
Rick, this is nonsense. Your
Vortexians, left, right, center, up, down, backwards,
sideways, snakebit, and/or whatever
political/religious/etc. leanings you may have:
A few points, directed in seemingly random directions
at no one party (all seem equally guilty here), but
maybe not so random?
1. Someone should go read the
Rick Monteverde wrote:
I just correctly pointed out that environmental monitoring, good or
otherwise, is a great example of NOT-STIMULUS . . .
This is a different issue entirely. According to Keynsians, spending
money for any purpose is a stimulus. I wouldn't know about that. I
know
You forget Jed that WWII was not a stimulus to the rest of the world
and we gained only because we sold the items that were destroyed for
gold. After WWII we were the only country that could manufacture much
of anything for a long time. I don't think the approach you suggest
would work
Jed -
2. It promotes economic growth according to Keynesian theory.
Let's agree to disagree on that point. We agree on the intrinsic value of
volcano and other environmental monitoring for well being and safety I 'm
sure, and even further to wide ranging basic research, etc. --- except
perhaps
Jed -
Volcano experts say the equipment we now have has not been
updated in 8 to 16 years and it is falling to pieces. Okay,
maybe they are lying, but if they are telling the truth, we
have a serious problem. It is as if our last weather
forecasting satellites were about to go out of service
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Also consider this, what to you think would happen if the human race,
in it's present sinful condition, got loose in the galaxy?
I don't know what
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As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:
Sez cnn.com: Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life
See:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/02/25/galaxy.planets.kepler/index.html
The new stimulus act has a generous renewable energy provision for Solar and
Wind Energy, so what gives with investors?
(besides no cash ;-)
Hmmm... maybe related to... Sunburn ??
Solar stocks have recently been doing not much better than banks, and many
investors got burned - even as the
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:50:28 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
Check this out:
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2009/02/23/daily23.html
Jones
Note that $1/W is probably per peak Watt, not per average Watt (over the year).
IOW in order to compare with e.g.
Agreed - but Solar is the very kind of investment by government (low fat pork
;-) which not only can provide many jobs for the short term- and yet with a
meaningful long-term net benefits ... the gift that keeps on giving, so to
speak...
...and as such: solar or wind is highly preferable to
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:25:55 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
Agreed - but Solar is the very kind of investment by government (low fat
pork ;-) which not only can provide many jobs for the short term- and yet
with a meaningful long-term net benefits ... the gift that keeps on
4. When you get down to it, no one owes anyone
anything. It all cancels out. You highminded geeks owe
the lowly greasemonkey and metal press operator just
as much as he owes you. So shut up.
preach on brother! That opinion pisses me off a lot, Some of my
friends that were able to go to a REAL
Edmund Storms wrote:
You forget Jed that WWII was not a stimulus to the rest of the world and we
gained only because we sold the items that were destroyed for gold. After
WWII we were the only country that could manufacture much of anything for a
long time. I don't think the approach you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGwFVNN-Uq8
Rick Monteverde wrote:
2. It promotes economic growth according to Keynesian theory.
Let's agree to disagree on that point.
We don't disagree. You say the Keynesians are wrong and I say I don't have a
clue if they are right or wrong. I am not taking their side. I am just
reported what they
q: when is a stimulus not a stimulus?
a: whenit is exciting for others but not for you.
Harry
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:51 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The key to self-sufficient Energy
Rick Monteverde wrote: I just
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:05:28 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
So-called boondoggles or pork fail in category 3. They produce no
benefit. But, as I said, WWII produced no benefit yet it seemed to succeed
as a stimulus, so perhaps all you need are items 1 and 2. Either that, or
Jed Rothwell wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
Contact Minnesota's Senator, Amy Klobuchar. She read my letter on
stopping the suppression . . .
I will send her a version of my letter to Obama, which is here:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm
Excellent paper Jed, but it's President Obama.
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leaking pen wrote:
Are you suggesting that the 4th planet is what happened the first time
Satan got uppity?
He was a murder from the beginning.
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