The article mentions using entanglement to synchronise clocks.
This possiblity was mentioned by someone on this list.
Harry
NASA Researchers Put New Spin on Einstein's Relativity Theory
April 2, 2003
Albert Einstein might be astonished to learn that NASA physicists have applied
his
Abd wrote:
You are, however, assuming that Galantini could tell that the chimney had no
liquid water in it at
the level of the thermometer, because he withdrew the probe and observed that
it was dry.
[deleted sentence]
Has it occurred to you that steam doesn't come out of the thermometer port
Abd wrote:
Mark, you are focusing on the name of the thing rather than the reality. For
our purposes, wet
steam is a 2-phase system in equilibrium at the boiling point. The size of the
phase regions is not
relevant.
IMHO, that's being sloppy. If we're really serious about getting to the truth,
Yes, the idea was mentioned and discussed on this list. I wrote a paper
on the subject. See
On absolute movementhttp://vixra.org/abs/1105.0032
Regards,
Mauro
On 08/10/2011 03:54 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
The article mentions using entanglement to synchronise clocks.
This possiblity was
On 08/10/2011 08:05 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote:
Yes, the idea was mentioned and discussed on this list. I wrote a paper
on the subject. See
On absolute movementhttp://vixra.org/abs/1105.0032
And here are the archived discussions:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg45437.html
On 08/10/2011 03:54 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
[snip]Albert Einstein might be astonished to learn that NASA physicists have
applied
his relativity theory to a concept he introduced but later disliked namely that
two particles that interact could maintain a connection even if separated by
a vast
http://news.discovery.com/space/edisons-anti-gravity-underwear-and-other-weighty-matters-110809.html
Washed in Cavorite.
I'd heard of all these AG folks but Roger Babson, founder of the Gravity
Research Foundation and author of the essay *Gravity - Our Enemy Number One.
*
*
*
T
What is *Eugene Podkletnov doing lately?*
Indeed, Krivits psychological interpretation on Mats Lewan's video was so
convincing, that I almost believed it! Quite impressive. However, it would
be good to have accurate temporal temperature graph for both April E-Cats.
If power manipulation hypothesis is true, it should be shown as
Mark Iverson wrote:
1) In Galantini's report, it is clear that he was looking at several different
sensors.
2) I seriously doubt that the RH sensor would physically fit in the opening
where the outlet
temperature sensor is located.
It fits in a different port. You can see it in some of the
On 08/10/2011 03:54 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
[snip]Albert Einstein might be astonished to learn that NASA physicists
have applied
his relativity theory to a concept he introduced but later disliked
namely
that
two particles that interact could maintain a connection even if
separated
by
a
Another Rossi puzzle…more fun!
A clue, Rossi says that if he told us in which city the 1 MW reactor demo is
to be held in, we would immediately know what company his American partner
is. Company towns like that are very rare anymore with most manufacturing
going overseas. The company must be
Redmond, WA.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, Michael Ivanov ivanov...@gmail.com
wrote:
Any ideas? I heard about Ford, but could it be GE or GM?
From Axil:
A clue, Rossi says that if he told us in which city the 1 MW reactor
demo is to be held in, we would immediately know what company
his American partner is. Company towns like that are very rare
anymore with most manufacturing going overseas. The company
must be big, American, long
BTW - what about Ampenergo who supposed to be a sole distributor in US?
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not
convinced that ECat technology, in its presumed current prototype
incarnation, would be of much use to the auto industry like Ford, or
any auto company for that matter.
A Stanley Steamer
Hi,
On 10-8-2011 10:58, Michael Ivanov wrote:
Any ideas? I heard about Ford, but could it be GE or GM?
I stick to my initial thought: Mountain View, Ca. (Google HQ) .
While looking at where we know that he traveled during April in the
USA (North (Ohio) and South-East (Florida) states), I
At 09:26 AM 8/10/2011, Michael Ivanov wrote:
BTW - what about Ampenergo who supposed to be a sole distributor in US?
No -- they're the middle-man. It was always said that they would
license others.
My guess will be Nasa and 1MW Demonstration will be held in Kennedy Space
Center, Florida. Great symbol that Rossi looks with his technology forward
beyond this planet, and ignores any immediate commercial plans as mere
chattering.
—Jouni
On Aug 10, 2011 11:59 AM, Michael Ivanov
700 MHz Cellphone Spectrum - a warning
Although the link between cell phones and cancer is supposedly not strong,
if you look at the actual details -the greatest connection to disease
correlates with the longest exposure periods. Things can only get worse,
since usage is increasing, the users are
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
Sorry if it's already here ... I looked for it.
Hard to well if it's actually conflicting with what Rossi as said
(technically).
They say it's built AROUND the core (not that they have one), AND that
they have (are?)
From the link:
Statement II
*We received the following from Symeon Tsalikoglou of Defkalion Green
Technologies on August 10, 2011 4:13 AM MST.*
Dear Sterling Allan,
In the link below you include a post from passi22 blog regarding an
anonymous email from inside Defkalion.
From Jouni,
My guess will be Nasa and 1MW Demonstration will be held in
Kennedy Space Center, Florida. Great symbol that Rossi looks
with his technology forward beyond this planet, and ignores any
immediate commercial plans as mere chattering.
It is not that far-fetched of a possibility...
At 11:05 AM 8/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
Andrea Rossi
August 10th, 2011 at 4:02 AM
Dear Luke Mortensen:
No one in the world holds any E-Cat, but us, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hard to well if it's actually
To be honest would be better to say:
*No one in the world holds any (working) E-Cat, even us, so far.*
2011/8/10 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
At 11:05 AM 8/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
Andrea Rossi
August
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
700 MHz Cellphone Spectrum - a warning
If this were a problem, would it not have been spotted when the UHF channels
were operating in these bands? Populations near these station broadcast
transmitters were exposed to huge
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
My guess will be Nasa and 1MW Demonstration will be held in Kennedy Space
Center, Florida.
Is there anyone left at the Kennedy Space Center?
T
Ya' know, I haven't been the same since enjoying the view and a few
cocktails
at the Sun Dial . back in the day .
From: Terry Blanton
700 MHz Cellphone Spectrum - a warning
If this were a problem, would it not have been spotted when the UHF channels
were operating in these bands?
Yep, Susan Gipp, you have a grip on the reality here...
Defkalion now stage-managing hour by hour -- perhaps their technicians
are running simulations on their magic catalyzt deprived devices to
verify the same kind of null results that actually ensued from the
publicized Rossi demos...
Within
Terry Blanton wrote:
If this were a problem, would it not have been spotted when the UHF
channels were operating in these bands? Populations near these
station broadcast transmitters were exposed to huge amounts of
radiation from channels 49 thru 69. Here in Atlanta, the transmitter
was on
That's exactly what Larson's Reciprocal System unified theory says:
particles are in contact if they are either adjacent in 3D space or 3D time.
So called antimatter ( really inverse matter where time and space are
interchanged ) gravitates into aggregates in 3D time and can only be viewed
by us
Hi,
On 10-8-2011 22:14, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
If this were a problem, would it not have been spotted when the UHF
channels were operating in these bands? Populations near these
station broadcast transmitters were exposed to huge amounts of
radiation from channels 49 thru
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Defkalion could have submitted a system with a dummy core for Greek
qualification (hydrogen system etc), but that seems a bit pointless.
Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and then
taken it way with him.
No regulator or government agency in
Jed, there is a way to reconcile everything. Defkalion designed the Hyperion
differently from Rossi's, the core exactly like Rossi's but they don't have
the recipe for the catalyzer. So, all they have are units that can still
work for a few months with the last loading of the catalyzer. They can
At 01:30 PM 8/10/2011, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote:
That's exactly what Larson's Reciprocal System unified theory says:
particles are in contact if they are either adjacent in 3D space or 3D
time.
Space/Time? That's SO last-millenium!
Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space
At 01:46 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and
then taken it way with him.
No regulator or government agency in the EU, the U.S. or Japan would
allow that. It is unthinkable. These organizations have many
Or that both Rossi and Defkalion have proprietary cores but only Rossi has
the catalyzer.
2011/8/10 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
At 01:46 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and then
taken it way with him.
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I meant that Rossi could have taken a core to Defkalion for internal
tests in a Hyperion rig -- NOT the government tests -- but not left it
with them.
This would allow the following two statements to be true:
R: Nobody has an eCat
D: We measured 6-20x energy gain
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't the radiation more intense when the signal is generated right next to
your scull? I wouldn't know but that is what I heard. Cell phones are low
powered but they are held right up against the head.
It follows
In the meanwhile I am going to have some metal plates implanted over my skull...
no over the whole body... newer phones are always connected and
trasmitting due to internet connection.
mic
2011/8/10 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Jed Rothwell
Hello group,
Daniele Passerini just posted on his blog (with permission) an email by
Francesco Celani describing in detail how he performed gamma
measurements during the public E-Cat test at Bologna in January, in
answer to a question submitted to him by Passerini himself from a blog user.
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Jed, there is a way to reconcile everything. Defkalion designed the
Hyperion differently from Rossi's, the core exactly like Rossi's but
they don't have the recipe for the catalyzer. So, all they have are
units that can still work for a few months with the last loading of
From Daniele Passerini's 22passi:
http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/08/celani-risponde-sulla-misura-dei-gamma.html
google translation: http://goo.gl/L9rYf
mic
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
In the meanwhile I am going to have some metal plates implanted over my
skull...
no over the whole body... newer phones are always connected and
trasmitting due to internet connection.
A simple aluminum hat
It is a mystery why nobody seems to be giving DGT (or PDGT) enough credit
for being able to enlist credible scientific expertise, and then to
replicate a 17 year old experiment in the public domain. These are
intelligent people, and they are wealthy.
Unless this drama is about stupidity or
Was offline a couple of days. Mayme, its not new to you. Just saw this citation
on a swedish website, it may help to explain why Defkalion did not pay EFA srl
(Rossis wife), and Rossi was upset.
citation:
The Licence and Technology Transfer Agreement (The LTTA) contains a mile stone
citation:
However, EFA has refused to participate in such a test despite the fact
that such non-participation clearly constitutes a material breach of
contract.
Likely because they know they cannot meet the stability requirements at this
time.
Revealing!
T
But I didn't say it was a different design. I am comparing Hyperion, which
will be sold, with the e-cat, which will not.
On 2011-08-11 01:02, Angela Kemmler wrote:
Was offline a couple of days. Mayme, its not new to you. Just saw this citation
on a swedish website, it may help to explain why Defkalion did not pay EFA srl
(Rossis wife), and Rossi was upset.
[snip]
Be warned that Defkalion GT is apparently
What did Galantini actually say? We finally have
a detailed report from him after so many months,
but it leaves many, many questions unanswered. It
should be remembered that Galantini does not
appear to have qualifications as a steam expert.
He's a chemist and he has a company that provides
At 03:27 AM 8/10/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
I think it is obvious that the vapor will be traveling faster than
ANY liquid water that is part of
a layer of liquid on the inner wall of the hose, due to the adhesion
of the liquid to the hose.
Sure. I don't think there will be much of that.
At 10:04 AM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Essentially, depending on the thermometer being wet to inform the
observer of the lack of water is foolish.
No, it isn't. Galantini knows what he is doing. The probe would be
wet because these probes are tapered. The plug
At 10:38 AM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Mark Iverson wrote:
1) In Galantini's report, it is clear that he was looking at
several different sensors.
2) I seriously doubt that the RH sensor would physically fit in the
opening where the outlet
temperature sensor is located.
It fits in a
And I imagine that the secret sauce is just a combination of specific
procedures, not the composition of the powder.
Hi,
On 10-8-2011 23:37, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I meant that Rossi could have taken a core to Defkalion for internal
tests in a Hyperion rig -- NOT the government tests -- but not left
it with them.
This would allow the following two statements to be true:
R: Nobody has
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
This depends on the probe. However, from other data (such as probe rated
temperature of 150 C.) the probe has an accuracy of +/- 0.4 C. He's greatly
overstated the accuracy, it seems, and that is crucial here. The
*resolution* is 0.1 C., and I
A recent Google newsfeed on Blacklight Power brought to my attention a
link from someone with a handle of sam_michael who claims Dr. Mills and
Blacklight Power is a scam operation of immense proportions.
See:
http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/blacklight-power-most-incredible-scam
I guess Witch Doctor is right about BLP. ;)
Galantini stated a fact from manual: «4- The thermometers have a margin of
error of +/- 0,05 Celsius»
Lomax replied with speculation: «This depends on the probe. However, from
other data (such as probe rated temperature of 150 C.) the probe has an
accuracy of +/- 0.4 C. He's greatly overstated
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Or that both Rossi and Defkalion have proprietary cores but only Rossi has
the catalyzer.
In this discussion core and catalyzer mean the same thing. They mean the
cell at the heart of the reactor which is filled with nickel powder,
hydrogen, and some
Galantini stated a fact from manual: «4- The thermometers have a margin of
error of +/- 0,05 Celsius»
Lomax replied with speculation: «This depends on the probe. However, from
other data (such as probe rated temperature of 150 C.) the probe has an
accuracy of +/- 0.4 C. He's greatly overstated
Sorry about accidental double post. My cell phone blundered and resent old
draft. First post is is the correct one, latter is unfortunate draft. —Jouni
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Thermometer must be calibrated in respect of boiling point of water (or
other known temperature that is relevant for what is measured) before it can
be used for accurate measurements. Without calibration, it's accuracy is
just ±0.4°C. But
It doesn't make much sense to me to equalize core and catalyzer. The core is
just what Rossi attempted to explain in his patent application. Catalyzer,
as I understand, is an additive to the fuel or part of the fuel. And, as I
understand, they could have enough fuel catalyzer to sustain the
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't make much sense to me to equalize core and catalyzer.
I mean in the context of this discussion we have been treating the two to
mean the same thing. Defkalkion calls core+catalyzer a kernel.
The core is just what Rossi attempted to
Alright, so Defkalion has a Kernel for a limited time, while the catalyzer
lasts. And it seems to me that catalyzer is something they apply to nickel
powder. Anyway, since they once they tested a thousand devices
simultaneously and Defkalion is still a young company, it is likely they
still have a
At 09:17 PM 8/10/2011, you wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
This depends on the probe. However, from other
data (such as probe rated temperature of 150 C.)
the probe has an accuracy of +/- 0.4 C. He's
greatly overstated the accuracy, it seems,
Is this the whole thing? Does Sam Michael present any evidence that
Blacklight Power is a scam? As far as I can tell, Steven Johnson quoted the
entire set of assertions:
“Sam” claims: I take the risk of slander/libel here but must take a stand
to protect investors and the general public about
I wrote:
Maybe he forgot which probe he used. Again, this is like what you said
above: maybe he did not calibrate. Yes, we all agree that if you don't
calibrate or you use the wrong probe, it does not work. Yes, people do make
mistakes.
To summarize Abd's assertions:
If Galantini made a
At 09:34 PM 8/10/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
Galantini stated a fact from manual: «4- The
thermometers have a margin of error of +/- 0,05 Celsius»
Lomax replied with speculation: «This depends
on the probe. However, from other data (such as
probe rated temperature of 150 C.) the probe
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
And I imagine that the secret sauce is just a combination of specific
procedures, not the composition of the powder.
That is probably true. For conventional chemical catalysts that is usually
the situation. Hydrogenation catalysts such as palladium on
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Alright, so Defkalion has a Kernel for a limited time, while the catalyzer
lasts. And it seems to me that catalyzer is something they apply to nickel
powder. Anyway, since they once they tested a thousand devices
simultaneously and Defkalion is still a
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Angela Kemmler angela.kemm...@gmx.de wrote:
citation:
The Licence and Technology Transfer Agreement (The LTTA) contains a mile
stone payment arrangement. According to said arrangement, DGT's release of
the first payment to EFA is pending on that EFA meet
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
names get translated too (for example Rossi becomes Smith):
Rossi becames Smith because in Italy Rossi is a very common name and
it's often used as the name of the average person. John Smith would
be Mario Rossi
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
The maximum error in the actual measurement, then, will be +/- 0.1 degree,
plus a little, so that it *might* be off by another digit under some
circumstances. I.e, suppose the calibration reads 100.0, but the internals
of the meter is saying
At 09:46 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Precision is better than accuracy with thermocouples. That is to
say, even if it is 0.4 deg C away from the real temperature (because
you do not bother to calibrate) it can still measure a temperature
difference of 0.1 deg C with confidence.
Not
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
No, they wouldn't. You can use the resolution to make temperature
comparisons. Jed, maybe I misread the specifications. I did not, however,
make this up. And I do know for a fact that most instruments have higher
resolution than accuracy.
I
Jed, composition is not enough. I am talking about lattice defects and how
to produce them. This is about arranging nucleus, not really about just
chemistry.
Not really. They probably have enough for testing. A few kilograms is enough
for a few hundreds of continuous tests for months. This is why Defkalion is
really not that desperate.
Ever since one of our number “noone noone” posted this
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg49026.html
I have been concerned that I have let Rossi’s secret out of the bag to his
detriment and that secret has been used by Defkalion Green Technologies to
reverse engineer Rossi’s
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