Forget cars and converters for a while.
Jed's optimistic data plus world's Pd reserves
(969.690.000 troy ounces) make a CF power of
0.64 TW- from some 13-16 TW necessary ( less than 5%)
Peter
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:25 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone even tried to
Excellent post! I wondered about Krivits behavior too. Some days ago I
wanted to post a comment on one of his articles, where he started to
repeat himself. I just wanted to show what I think of Rossi and his
behavior (just to give a little IMHO reasonable counter weight to his
article) and how
I am a little bit surprised to see such comments...
The technologygateway is not intended for scientists or for details on
science which is going on at NASA. It is for showing the / a broader
public what NASA is doing. It's a kind of advertisement place for NASA
to a broader public! This is,
At a minimum a replaceable cartridge needs to have an additional supply of
hydrogen - and that means a sealable connection (not something you would
necessarily trust a muppet consumer with - a lot of people don't even know
how to tighten a nut. Also if we are to believe recent speculation about
Also if it is just an extra dose of powder: How do you contain the
vacuum..? What kind of cheap and save mechanism could it be to contain
the vacuum? Or to create a new one after refueling? Or will the reactor
core completely be replaced and recycled in a factory?
Wolf
At a minimum a
You probably don't need a vacuum as the system normally runs pressurised.
After you have replaced the powder pressurise it with hydrogen and then
vent it. Repeat this several times and there will be almost no air left in
it. If the powder has been processed correctly beforehand then a short
I've gone thru just about all of Volume 1 of Santilli's 'Il Grande Grido'...
all 450+ pages. Quite interesting... it is a collection of all the
correspondence between Santilli and various universities, nat'l labs, and
scientists, from ~1977 to '83. Thankfully, not many equations! :-)
Santilli
On Rossi's JONP -
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=11#comment-169012
Andrea
Rossi
January 13th, 2012 at 3:03 AM
Dear Albert Ellul:
Thank you.
The
I just noticed this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill
Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
type of bond http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_bond called a
magnecular bond, which he claims consists of atoms held together by magnetic
fields
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean he wants to get a tax credit?
No, there are altruistic people in the world.
T
I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:
See Lawsuits here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
very upset and
Hi Peter,
Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a better
model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
http://www.scientificethics.org
particularly with World Scientific, this page:
Dera Mark,
after so many years the memories are nor unpleasant, just interesting. His
model had no success but he has his supporters. His magnecules are not used
anywhere, as far as I know.
He is (was) (could be) a very nice person..Cultured.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Mark
I don't know his model. But the idea is extremely similar to Horace's...
2012/1/13 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
Dera Mark,
after so many years the memories are nor unpleasant, just interesting. His
model had no success but he has his supporters. His magnecules are not used
anywhere, as
His model is on his website and in many other Web places . Horace can
answer you re this similarity issue.
Peter
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know his model. But the idea is extremely similar to Horace's...
2012/1/13 Peter Gluck
The requirement that a certified service technician be required to refill the
fuel supply every 6 months has been a large burden. This announcement is
welcome and will ensure that the ECATs become widely accepted. The news keeps
getting better all the time. I am not sure that there are any
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:33 -0800, Bill Traweek wrote:
I notice that on slide 11 they used a Hydrogen purification system as
a proxy for PF's electrolytic cell. I also notice that
the Palladium membrane is heated with a heater. I wonder if Rossi's
heater is for a related purpose to the
I agree. This changes things significantly. It will be interesting
to see how this is achieved. It's simple enough to change a
cartridge with the nickel powder but how is the hydrogen taken care
of? Perhaps the whole reactor core including the hydrogen storage is
built
Ed Storms, Akira Shirakawa and others have suggested I update the look and
feel of the LENR-CANR.org website. In particular, the library indexes are
badly out of data and useless. I was thinking of doing this a few years ago
but a large organization said they might take over the maintenance of the
I've been thinking about
this a little more and am starting to wonder how Rossi is able to
achieve such a low price. At $500 for 10kW, that's way lower than
any conventional boiler that I know of. I'd image the actual
process of machining and automated assembly,
-Original Message-
From: Craig Haynie
McKubre noted back in the 90s that the Pons-Fleishmann effect [deuterium] can
be
directly correlated to the degree to which the palladium lattice is
loaded [with deuterium].
Compared to hydrogen gas as the experimental control: 15°C increase in
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
See Lawsuits here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
very upset and stressed by this affair.
Just because the price is so low per kilowatt doesn't mean that you can buy it
per kilowatt. I imagine that that's the price for the big ones, and the smaller
ones are more expensive.
Joe
--
Dr Joe Karthauser
On 13 Jan 2012, at 15:28, Energy Liberator energylibera...@gmail.com wrote:
I've
Hi Jed,
I think, what you are looking for, is a Content Management System (CMS),
e.g. Joomla http://www.joomla.org/, which is free and seems to have a
nice and big community.
Once you have a layout (there are also websites which provide free
standard and minimalistic layouts), you can easily
I wrote:
In particular, the library indexes are badly out of data and useless.
Out of DATE and also DATA. I would like to add papers which appear only in
collections. I would add the file name plus page number. Acrobat can
supposedly jump to a page. That feature only seems to work with the
My understanding is that the low price per kilowatt only applies to
the domestic e-cat which are 10kW. The e-cats in the 1MW plant use a
different reactor and are more expensive at $1500/kW.
On 13/01/12 15:46, Dr Joe Karthauser wrote:
Just because the price
Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
I think, what you are looking for, is a Content Management System (CMS),
e.g. Joomla http://www.joomla.org/, which is free and seems to have a
nice and big community.
Yup. That's the sort of thing I have in mind. Free is good.
Thanks for the pointer.
The underlying posit of this video is that NASA believes Enhancement of Surface
Plasmon Polaritons will initiate and sustain LENR in metal hydride systems. I
have followed Plasmon articles as they relate to translating the laser width
through an aperture of reducing geometry to produce a
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Energy Liberator energylibera...@gmail.com
wrote:
The price is really tumbling now.
If I didn't have one to sell, I'd offer it to you cheap too. Just
saying... nobody who has ever talked about it has ever bought an E-cat
from Rossi .
HAS ANYONE EVEN ATTEMPTED TO REPLICATE PREPARATA?
Citing Preparata, Guiliano, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About
Cold Fusion Calorimetry, (ICCF-6, vol 1, October 13-18, 1996), p. 136
Excess Heat by Charles Beaudette, 2000 edition, p 207:
Preparata ...claims to have obtained *100%
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes it is a BIG change. The reactor design must be VERY different. It is a
good development. Go Rossi Go.
It is just one more extravagant claim without one tiny shred of proof.
Jed,
If you need help I am willing to contribute.
Some suggestions that take into account that you are a programmer:
0. Use as much as possible Free Software. It allows you to scale in
terms of costs easily and you can fix it.
1. Stick on PostgreSQL you will find that is powerful even in full
thanks for correcting our interpretation.
This video is ok for a non scientific audience in media... make dream, give
few data... OK.
BTW I also make a mismatch between this new advertising video, and the
paper that seems (maybe I'm amnesic) to apear recently on the captor
page, in the LENR
Hum, seems hard to do.
my point of view is that maybe it will be replacing the full core, with Ni,
H, primary cooling, and maybe electronic...
once shutdown, the reactor will be simply plumbed/pluged-out like a printer
cartridge...
it can also look like the modern anti-stealing autoradio, where
Yes, we're home. Yawn. Why should it be a surprise, if the answer is no?
Others have reported excellent results, maybe not 100% but very good - and
researchers in major labs or Universities took no notice. After all, they
are sooo busy, busy, busy that they cannot look-up from figuring out how to
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Yes, we're home. Yawn. Why should it be a surprise, if the answer is no?
Because there do exist some actual scientists.
Craig,
The purifier should be a vast improvement over electrolytic
cell since you don’t need to electrolyze hydrogen out of the water although the
“impure” gas being fed in obviously could be HHO from electrolysis. I
originally had a Pd membrane wall on the left side of this
On 12-01-13 12:21 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
Hum, seems hard to do.
my point of view is that maybe it will be replacing the full core,
with Ni, H, primary cooling, and maybe electronic...
once shutdown, the reactor will be simply plumbed/pluged-out like a
printer cartridge...
Good analogy.
Yes, but actual scientists need decent funding to do this kind of work.
BTW, there is a typo in previous post: should be Ni-H - as in why would
they replicate Pd-D which has so little chance of commercialization, due to
the thousand-fold higher cost of the reactants, instead of Ni-H which does
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear Admiral of the
Lake Eyre Yacht Club.
Note, this lake is a salt lake and only has water in it after a flood. :)
I love it! A Rear Admiral! This is my kind of guy.
- Jed
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Yes, but actual scientists need decent funding to do this kind of work.
...
As mentioned in previous postings, palladium has hit $1000/ounce at times
$100 for one foot of 1mm diameter palladium wire
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
$100 for one foot of 1mm diameter palladium wire
http://www.bonanza.com/listings/1-FOOT-PALLADIUM-950-ROUND-WIRE-HH-18-GAUGE-JEWELRY/23681238
This is enough to replicate Preparata's experiment. Hardly a bank-buster.
It is all the other stuff that
I wonder if the $10 refill includes the self destruct mechanism or if
that's perhaps an extra cost option.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
$100 for one foot of 1mm diameter palladium wire
http://www.bonanza.com/listings/1-FOOT-PALLADIUM-950-ROUND-WIRE-HH-18-GAUGE-JEWELRY/23681238
This is enough to replicate
BTW: The following should not be taken to mean that I believe most actual
scientists are convinced that pursuit of replication of the Fleischmann
Pons Effect is a moot point. I was merely trying to avert an irrelevant
argument with Jones.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, James Bowery
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
As mentioned in previous postings, palladium has hit $1000/ounce at times in
recent history, and nickel is in the range of $1/ounce. The huge cost
disparity between D and H is even greater.
Today Pd bid $1481 ask $1489
There is a picture of DGT on their forum made by a visiting customer according
to the report. They also claim to have posted a link to other pictures, but I
was not able to view them for some reason. This is a link to the main topic,
the picture is on the same page.
Dave
Sorry I was mislead by my cynicism. Santilli is sincere and credentialed.
I guess he became litigious after having to endure the label fringe
scientist for years.
The link to his complaint against Infinite Energy is dead.
Harry
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Snubbed by mainstream, scrappy scientist sues
The Palm Harbor man wants the courts to force his detractors to take
his ideas seriously.
By CARRIE WEIMAR
Published May 9, 2007
TAMPA - Ruggero Santilli is frustrated.
After a long career as an academic, the Palm Harbor physicist says he
isn't
If an e-cat is really nothing but a boiler with a steel core, some electronics
(wouldn't be multi-purpose but possibly on a single ASIC), a heater element and
connectors for some kind of heat exchanger, I'd expect a small home unit to
cost about $ 400 to produce and ship from China. This is
Dear Harry,
Santilli had a dispute re Theory with an other Italian
scientist (Corso, if I remember well) and Infinite Energy was transformed
in an arena of fight. The subject was only tangential to cold fusion and
Gene has stopped the publication of this polemics. This was the cause of
the
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In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:17:50 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Craig,
The purifier should be a vast improvement over electrolytic
cell since you dont need to electrolyze hydrogen out of the water although
the impure gas being fed in obviously could
good news,
so they are not blogging dogs
http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/On-the-Internet-nobody-knows-you-re-a-dog-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8562841_.htm
2012/1/13 David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
There is a picture of DGT on their forum made by a visiting customer
according to the
From JONP at
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=11#comment-168774
HanzJager
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication to this Mr. Rossi!
I can’t wait to have an eCat sitting in my basement! Have you seen
this video released by NASA?
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
Andrea Rossi
January 12th, 2012 at 5:42 PM
Dear Hanz Jager:
The fact that NASA is trying to copy my work honours me. But their
theory is wrong. We will beat them, as well as all the other
Competitors with
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:11:08 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
If NASA's theory is wrong, how are they any form of competition? This
doesn't compute.
It does if they use the same method and get similar results, even with the wrong
theory.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Energy Liberator's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:04:56 +:
Hi,
[snip]
I agree. This changes things significantly. It will be interesting to see how
this is achieved. It's simple enough to change a cartridge with the nickel
powder but how is the hydrogen taken care of? Perhaps
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:11:08 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
If NASA's theory is wrong, how are they any form of competition? This
doesn't compute.
It does if they use the same method and get similar results,
A bee can fly.
An eagle can fly.
Different animals, different evolutionary paths.
Both don't give a bit to theory of flight, still they fly.
mic
2012/1/13 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri,
This patent doesn't show up on google searches of discussion boards.
I am curious how it fits into the various LENR categories, and also
whether the approach works on nano-scales, and in which atmospheres,
emulsions and for which crystal distributions.
Although the fusion is claimed to be
FYI a new article about dick smith
http://www.merredinmercury.com.au/news/national/national/general/mullumbimby-helping-to-save-world/2418684.aspx
2012/1/13 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear Admiral of
From my reading of the actual letters between him and colleagues at various
universities, I think he has good reason to be angry... but like he said
later in life, the scientists who basically 'blacklisted' him in the
academic world actually did him a favor; he was able to find very competent
I'd prefer to use a line from the album, 'Hotel California' by The Eagles...
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!
-mark
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At 10:40 AM 1/13/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
mix...@bigpond.com
wrote:
On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear
Admiral of the Lake Eyre Yacht Club.
Note, this lake is a salt lake and only has water in it after a
flood. :)
http://www.lakeeyreyc.com/Status/latest.htm
Mats Lewan reports at
TV:NASA confirms research in
LENR
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3384163.ece
..
Ny Teknik contacted NASAs chief scientist, Dr. Dennis Bushnell,
who previously has expressed support for LENR, but he declined to give
any official comments on the
All the news reports indicated that the meeting was Friday night ... long
over by now. But no updates.
At 05:00 PM 1/13/2012, Alan J Fletcher
wrote:
http://www.lakeeyreyc.com/Status/latest.htm
Almost dry
--- and they report Lake levels in ... millimeters
!!!
I got there via google, but now that
January 13th, 2012 at 5:51 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=15#comment-169415
The 1 MW Customer is not yet working with the 1 MW plant, because we
are still completing the control systems with National Instruments.
(Response from MY in 5,4,3.. )
(lenr.qumbu.com
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
January 13th, 2012 at 5:51 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=15#comment-169415
The 1 MW Customer is not yet working with the 1 MW plant, because we are
still completing the control systems with
Michele, a bumblebee might be a better example since it defies the laws of
aerodynamics and it must therefore be a figment of our imagination and
really can't fly from this sort of skeptical perspective. We don't have to
accept anyone's theory when the experimental results are proven. Even if the
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:42:59 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:11:08 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
If NASA's theory is wrong, how are they any form of competition? This
In reply to Alan J Fletcher's message of Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:34:23 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
At 12:24 PM 1/12/2012, Jones Beene wrote:
From: James Bowery
Google-books has one of Preparatas most popular books on QED online. There is
a chapter on LENR
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:00:57 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The underlying posit of this video is that NASA believes Enhancement of
Surface Plasmon Polaritons will initiate and sustain LENR in metal hydride
systems. I have followed Plasmon articles as they relate to
Here is one tidbit that seems to indicate it might be...
-m
==
Santilli writes:
In 1996 I submitted to International Journal of Modern Physics D paper
[35] presenting the FIRST EXACT-NUMERICAL REPRESENTATION OF ALL TOTAL
NUCLEAR MAGNETIC MOMENTS.
The
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:33 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:42:59 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:11:08 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
If
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