[Vo]:temporal orientation in LENR?

Dear Friends, It is Sunday and it is my pleasure to send you the issue No. 22 of my faster info newsletter: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2012/05/qui-cito-22.html Many very good papers signaled, the last one in the list , about *"temporal orientation" *is, I think, especially relevant for LE

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:03 PM, James Bowery wrote: > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >> I would think the idea that one can "take land to support a mate" is >> agricultural notion of identity and integrity. > > > Is sexual notion of identity and integrity. > > You k

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

Guys, this thread has gotten very far off the subject. I request that you rename it and continue. I would really appreciate a discussion concerning tritium associated with Ni-H LENR. Dave -Original Message- From: James Bowery To: Guenter Wildgruber Cc: vortex-l Sent: Sat, May 26

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Guenter Wildgruber wrote: > James, > thank you for Your sensible comment. > > I did not know about the term 'allodium'. > looking after the term, I read: > ... > True allodial title is rare, with most property ownership in the common > law

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > I would think the idea that one can "take land to support a mate" is > agricultural notion of identity and integrity. Is sexual notion of identity and integrity. You know nothing of animal behavior.

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > >> It was not a Gregg Easterbrook-like character, but Stanley Pons and his >> financial independence (along with Fleischmann's retirement independence) >> that allowed for an escape route for cold fusion. Yet, we see

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

The US currently has two X-37 OTV shuttle drones. A third was recently approved. Design for this began in1999, more than 10 years prior to retiring the shuttle. Much was learned from the original shuttle program. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37 On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Terry Blant

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Contact with Jodie Foster: S.R. Hadden: First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price? T

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I did not know they had another one. That surely would have reduced the cost > of building a replacement, instead of repairing the one up there. Yes, built by two different contractors in the event one was destroyed in casting or grinding.

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Terry Blanton wrote: > There were actually two mirrors, the one with the spherical > aberration made by Perkin Elmer and the likely unflawed one still in > storage made by Kodak. > I did not know they had another one. That surely would have reduced the cost of building a replacement, instead of

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

It took 3 months for the mirror glass to cool down and two years to grind it. There were actually two mirrors, the one with the spherical aberration made by Perkin Elmer and the likely unflawed one still in storage made by Kodak. T

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

James, thank you for Your sensible comment. I did not know about the term 'allodium'. looking after the term, I read: ... True allodial title is rare, with most property ownership in the common law world—primarily, the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the Rep

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

I would think the idea that one can "take land to support a mate" is agricultural notion of identity and integrity. Harry On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, James Bowery wrote: > The definition of "Yeoman" is at issue.  Its modern degeneration has > virtually nothing to do with the original notion

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

The optics was not replaced, it was corrected by COSTAR, http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/nuts_.and._bolts/optics/costar/ That was a set of small mirrors that corrected the focal point. 2012/5/26 Guenter Wildgruber > > -- > *Von:* Daniel Rocha > **>

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Von: Daniel Rocha >>> This argument is not right. It is not valid also to compare it to a computer or aircraft projects. The development of Hubble led to a unique architecture, not to mass production. It would take a long time to build another one

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Jed, Hubble must have a very accurate focusing and detection than any spy satellite because it gets very few photons. Its production is much more expensive and slow, to correct defects. 2012/5/26 Jed Rothwell > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > >> This argument is not right. It is not valid also to compa

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

The definition of "Yeoman" is at issue. Its modern degeneration has virtually nothing to do with the original notion. Basically there was, once upon a time, recognition of the foundation of civilization -- primarily because civilization had only recently arisen. This is particularly true of nort

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Daniel Rocha wrote: > This argument is not right. It is not valid also to compare it to a > computer or aircraft projects. The development of Hubble led to a unique > architecture, not to mass production. It would take a long time to build > another one. So, fixing it in space, even if required

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

This argument is not right. It is not valid also to compare it to a computer or aircraft projects. The development of Hubble led to a unique architecture, not to mass production. It would take a long time to build another one. So, fixing it in space, even if required a lot of money, was necessary o

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

James Bowery wrote: > It was not a Gregg Easterbrook-like character, but Stanley Pons and his > financial independence (along with Fleischmann's retirement independence) > that allowed for an escape route for cold fusion. Yet, we see 2 decades > later, the monster spawned of Manhattan, is still

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 8:32 AM, James Bowery wrote: It is incredible to watch the folks here in Vortex speak about obscenity > like NASA in any other terms. It was born of a Manhattan Project-style > centralized government program an and, like the Manhattan Project, spawned > a technology-suppr

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

You call spending billions on gigawatts of CSP power towers proven and conventional? Do some more research Jed. On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Chemical Engineer 'cheme...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > Hell, Obama skipped right by basic research and gave billions to "green" >> ene

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

___ Von: James Bowery Paracelsus whose motto was: "Let no man belong to another that can belong to himself." James, I understand this as a typical statement of a renaissance mind. But: Paracelsus was not a Yeoman.

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Chemical Engineer wrote: Hell, Obama skipped right by basic research and gave billions to "green" > energy companies to rush out products destined for failure That is nonsense. All of the technology the government has assisted has been conventional, long established, proven stuff such as wind

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Open space to the people so they participate in reality not vicariosly through others. Being personally involved is a great motivator. How to do it, lower cost access to space. How do you achieve lower cost access? Building a private commercial transportation industry. You do that with Governmen

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Like i said, the new shuttle drone has spent almost two years in space and is doing great and so is the SpaceX drone. Go USA! On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Chemical Engineer wrote: > Hell, Obama skipped right by basic research and gave billions to "green" > energy companies to rush out products des

[Vo]:"Localized time- space curvature demonstrated from 3 phase alternator powered 666 machine"

64 views before announcement... beforeitsnews.com/story/2177/069/Localized_time-_space_curvature_demonstrated_from_3_phase_alternator_powered_666_machine.html This measurement showed in the video is the most important measurement ever made regarding relativity, besides that of the eclipse of the

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Hell, Obama skipped right by basic research and gave billions to "green" energy companies to rush out products destined for failure On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The Hubble data information management structure reminds me of the Dilbert > character Mordac, Preventer of Informa

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Chemical Engineer wrote: If that was the only accomplishment of the shuttle i might give your > argument some weight No one denies that the Shuttle was a major improvement. So was the IBM Stretch computer. If they had made one Shuttle, learned lesson from it, and then tried again with a new des

RE: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Now that the shuttle is gone, how do we keep kids interested in STEM? What inspiration does a teenager get from cargo drone launches? What would get you pumped up and want to spend your future doing science? *From:* Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Saturday, May 26, 2012 1

Re: [Vo]:Bizarre -- torsional physics

Guess what, if relativity itself was prooved by Einstein using an eclipse, and it is the eclipse itself is what brings on these torsional effects: that also precludes special laws of physics taking place, then Einsteins observations were not made in the ordinary world we live in where torsional

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Jed, Jed, I suggest you remove all of those Hubble screen savers and wallpapers off your PC. It cost way too much to produce them On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Chemical Engineer wrote: > If that was the only accomplishment of the shuttle i might give your > argument some weight > > On Saturday, M

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

The Hubble data information management structure reminds me of the Dilbert character Mordac, Preventer of Information Services: http://dilbert.com/strips/?CharIDs=15&After=01/01/1996&Before=08/20/2008&Order=s.DateStrip+DESC&PerPage=50&x=23&y=9&CharFilter=Any A lot of that goes on in industry. In

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

I'm sorry but the Shuttle and the ISS have simply gobbled up funding with very little real purpose. When you lose sight of a real goal, government funding turns into a jobs program. There were a lot of better alternaives for funding space development. I was involved in lobby groups for years t

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

If that was the only accomplishment of the shuttle i might give your argument some weight On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Randy Wuller 'rwul...@freeark.com');>> wrote: > > You could have replaced the Hubble many time over for the cost of the >> Shuttle and its operation. >> > >

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Chemical Engineer wrote: Condemning the shuttle program is like condemning jet fighter aircraft & > bombers now that we have drones to do the dirty work. No, it is like condemning the F22 Raptor because that airplane was too ambitious, it tried to do too many different missions, and it costs wa

Re: [Vo]:Can HAARP Alter Spacetime?

Here's the actual paper from which the authors draw their conclusions; http://users.elo.com.br/~deaquino/ELF%20Earthquakes I was able to wade through the math to grasp his essential points, some very interesting theoretical data... I had formerly made objections to what Aquino made known back in 2

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Guenter Wildgruber wrote: > In the early middle ages it was the church-builders, which advanced the > art of empirical construction of large buildings by trial and error. Lots > of churches had to be repaired or collapsed altogether. > Those 'geniuses' are not kn

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Randy Wuller wrote: You could have replaced the Hubble many time over for the cost of the > Shuttle and its operation. > That is true. See the book "Hubble Wars." The cost of the Shuttle mission to repair the Hubble was greater than the cost of launching a new Hubble would have been. I regret to

[Vo]:Ernest Yeager Center adds LENR-CANR to their on-line resources

The folks at the Ernest Yeager Center at Case Western U. informed me they added LENR-CANR to their on-line resources guide: http://electrochem.cwru.edu/estir/pdi.htm Top page: http://electrochem.cwru.edu/ http://electrochem.cwru.edu/estir/ My response to them: "That's great! Thanks. It is an

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Most people who used a horse or a horse-drawn carriage back at the turn of the 20th Century had a initial negative reaction to the first gas powered vehicles, and usually shouted to it's driver to "Get A Horse!!!.

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

You could have replaced the Hubble many time over for the cost of the Shuttle and its operation. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Chemical Engineer wrote: > Condemning the shuttle program is like condemning jet fighter aircraft & > bombers now that we have drones to do the d

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Condemning the shuttle program is like condemning jet fighter aircraft & bombers now that we have drones to do the dirty work. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/08/secret-air-force-x-37b-space-plane-mission-pectacular-success/ Without the shuttle & crew Hubble would be a piece of space junk.

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

The Soviets won the space race. They installed a communist bureaucracy over the most critical of all areas to US culture: Frontiers. Very few of uswere fighting against this communist system of la

Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

Jed: The leap too far point is incorrect. That had little to do with the shuttle's issues. The main problem was that it was designed to be everything. A truck, a car, a lab all rolled into one. You wouldn't design a passenger carrier and add a large truck carrier to it. It makes both complica

[Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980

This was featured in Slate magazine. I read it years ago. It is a damning critique of the Space Shuttle written before the first Shuttle flew: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/8004.easterbrook-fulltext.html Many people consider the Shuttle a technical triumph. I always had my doubts

Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)

Von: Jojo Jaro An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 11:17 Samstag, 26.Mai 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR) There appears to be... # Jojo, ...My goal in brining up this discussion is to t

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

re 'Yeomen'   -- Eric and James   2nd take   Yeomen, as I understand the term, are a group of people having enough material and educational resources to be 'free thinkers'.   The question is: Are these people decisive wrt the advancement of humanity?   I think not. They play a certain role, but no

[Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)

There appears to be some interest in this subject, so I will continue discussing it as long as people want to discuss it by responding. Apoligies to Bill in advance if this is inappropriate. First, let me make something very clear. My goal in brining up this discussion is to try to draw a pa

Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR

Von: James Bowery An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:58 Freitag, 25.Mai 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Tritium in Ni-H LENR >>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Eric Walker wrote: Kuhn understood that scientists are emotional creatures, given t