RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Ok, but Casimir effect, DCE is the one contender with the most likelihood to 
supply the energy - a ZPE bootstrap that powers the oscillations, what defies 
COE in macro isotropy is not necessarily in defiance when the isotropy is 
broken and you have asymmetries, be they atomic vs molecular gas  going thru 
translations opposite translations on either side of these breaches in isotropy 
that occur in the 2d tapestry of Ni geometry formed by powders or skeletal cats.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:39 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

Robert--

Your just are ahead of Jones and Axil in hypotheses for LENR now, even with 
your hand waving.

Thanks for your input.

Bob Cook
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Ellefson vortex-h...@e2ke.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:26 PM
Subject: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?



 Dear Vortex-L,

 Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system based on 
 a
 Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I hope to
 encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.

 In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash grain
 (particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html

 I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash 
 represent
 dipole oscillators which have literally evolved from the initial nickel 
 fuel
 grain clusters during the startup and then operation of reactor.   These
 oscillators form a coupled, complex, highly non-linear system that could 
 be
 described as a LENR-driven LASER analog, much like the SPASER systems that
 are emerging in laboratories right now in the nanoscale, except these
 structures are micron-scale.  One interesting paper which provides a
 potential analog is:
  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf (Plasmon-mediated
 superradiance near metal nanostructures)

 It is my contention that the observed microstructures in the nickel ash
 grain are _directly homologous_ to the Eigen-modes of this coherent 
 system.
 I believe that Ni-Li neutron exchange reactions are being stimulated by 
 SPP
 and phonon interactions on the protruding structures, and are producing a
 form of polychromatic superradiance such as that observed during reactions
 involving Metastable Innershell Molecular States (MIMS, aka 
 ballotechnics).
 I suspect the energy gain comes from the vacuum during the LENR reaction,
 which I currently picture as a high-velocity collision of Li-Ni-Li that
 produces a MIMS reaction which also (hand-waving here) exchanges neutrons
 between lithium and nickel. This emits only intense photon and phonon
 energy, some of which couples back into the system to drive further
 reactions, while the rest is thermalized in the reactor shell.

 If this is true, then only the EMF stimulation is needed to control the
 reactor via SPP pumping once a certain operating temperature threshold has
 been reached by external heating.  Rossi could simplify his control by
 separating these two functions of heating and EMF stimulation, I suspect.
 This separation may be the primary function of the mouse/cat reactor
 configuration, where the mouse emits primarily photons as the cat's
 controlling input, once a minimum temperature is reached throughout the
 system.

 Using only EMF pumping to control the reaction would also greatly improve
 the COP, which may be part of the reason why the systems that Rossi
 demonstrates still have combined heating and RF control inputs.

 I suspect that if you were to construct a good approximation of the nickel
 ash grain morphology with natural nickel, combined it with lithium and 
 large
 iron grains, and stimulated it with EMF while at a high enough 
 temperature,
 that you would see this system become active and gainful.  A 
 high-resolution
 3-d printer could do this, as could a plethora of extant micro-fabrication
 techniques.  Then again, given that Rossi's systems evolve in-situ from
 powdered fuel, why bother with fabricating machines?  The main purpose I 
 can
 think of for a designed and manufactured fuel morphology would be to
 optimize the potential for electrical output while minimizing thermal
 output.

 I hope these ideas are able to inspire further insights into this system.

 -Bob Ellefson







 



RE: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Axil 

 

Ø  Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard 
nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the area 
that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it to cause 
nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the vacuum.

 

 

Please. There is no evidence of nuclear reaction in this experiment. There is 
no gamma, no bremsstrahlung, no radioactive debris, and the ash show 
unequivocal evidence of pure isotope having been added - to make it appear 
nuclear.

 

There are prior legitamate experiments from Piantelli with Ni-H which are 
nuclear, but in those cases, he clearly shows an extremely wide range of 
transmutation products. 

 

This experiment is not related.

 

 



[Vo]:preparing real dialogue with the TESTERS of HotCat

2014-10-22 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends,

I have just published:

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/10/preparing-for-dialogue-with-authors-of.html

It is a simple sketch; I wrote being convinced that the dialogue with the
Testers is necessary and we have to make it possible.
It is necessary for the sake of our scientific field not to satisfy our
curiosity or temper some frustrations or educated prejudices.
The spirit oF EGO OUT ask you to disobey your Egos and ask in the
answerable mode.

Thank you in advance for your contributions.

Peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Cook
Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described in 
this article? 

 It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor. 

The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the nanoplasmonic 
substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the metal, seems 
correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity is pumped up in 
energy by something.  

The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the available 
plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values of spin 1 are 
preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the metal lattice and 
this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the plasmonic entity.

Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus with its 
angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers more  one quanta of angular momentum 
to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return to a lower 
energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and potentially  favor  a new set 
of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum of the coherent system--nuclei 
and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of many additional quanta to the 
plasmonic entity one quanta at a time. 

The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular momentum 
energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from Jackson State 
and the French University contributors) with the excess mass changed to small 
bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.   

Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than what is 
done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.  

In keeping with humble conjectures, 

Bob Cook

  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard 
nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the area 
that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it to cause 
nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the vacuum..


  On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

Bob,

The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author, but
it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply to
get away from that madness.

Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model which
was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now completely
different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment, and if
there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up suggesting
that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. The
Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is based
on solid results for several major Universities.

Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if and when
their dummy turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That would be
my expectation.

Thanks for your insight.


-Original Message-
From: Robert Ellefson
Dear Vortex-L,

Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system based on a
Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I hope to
encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.

In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash grain
(particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html

I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash represent
dipole oscillators which have literally evolved from the initial nickel fuel
grain clusters during the startup and then operation of reactor.   These
oscillators form a coupled, complex, highly non-linear system that could be
described as a LENR-driven LASER analog, much like the SPASER systems that
are emerging in laboratories right now in the nanoscale, except these
structures are micron-scale.  One interesting paper which provides a
potential analog is:
  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf (Plasmon-mediated
superradiance near metal nanostructures)

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Cook
I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to one 
quanta rather than more one.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Cook 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

  How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described in 
this article? 

   It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor. 

  The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the nanoplasmonic 
substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the metal, seems 
correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity is pumped up in 
energy by something.  

  The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the available 
plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values of spin 1 are 
preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the metal lattice and 
this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the plasmonic entity.

  Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus with 
its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular momentum 
to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return to a lower 
energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and potentially  favor  a new set 
of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum of the coherent system--nuclei 
and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of many additional quanta to the 
plasmonic entity one quanta at a time. 

  The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular momentum 
energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from Jackson State 
and the French University contributors) with the excess mass changed to small 
bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.   

  Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than what 
is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.  

  In keeping with humble conjectures, 

  Bob Cook


- Original Message - 
From: Axil Axil 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard 
nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the area 
that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it to cause 
nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the vacuum..


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  Bob,

  The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
  are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
  Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

  I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author, but
  it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply to
  get away from that madness.

  Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
  still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model 
which
  was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now 
completely
  different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

  But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment, and 
if
  there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
  background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
  alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
  explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up suggesting
  that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. The
  Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is based
  on solid results for several major Universities.

  Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if and 
when
  their dummy turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That would 
be
  my expectation.

  Thanks for your insight.


  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Ellefson
  Dear Vortex-L,

  Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system based on 
a
  Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I hope to
  encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.

  In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash grain
  (particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
   http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html

  I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash 
represent
  dipole oscillators which have literally evolved from the initial nickel 
fuel
  grain clusters during the startup and then operation of reactor.   These
  oscillators form a coupled, complex, highly 

RE: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook  
*   
*   The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy to the
metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
plasmonic entity.

There are a number of ways to look at an energy transfer mechanism; and the
main one which stands out for me now (in addition to DCE) is the transfer of
quanta of energy (spin energy) direct to the magnon from an electron which
is lost to the Dirac field. The driver for that is SPP but they are pumped
in a separate reaction. There are other ways to look at it: Bob suggests a
MIMS reaction, Axil suggests a nuclear reaction and Terry suggests proton to
neutron. Mills does not invoke SPP as a driver but a DDL/Millsean version
would result in DDL from a SPP driver.

So there are at least 5 ways that energy can be transferred from SPP to
lattice in nickel via an intermediary particle, 3 of them are non-nuclear.
There is another 6th way that gain can derive from Casimir DCE photon
multiplication. I consider this 6th way as the pumping mechanism for the SPP
- so that there is no mutual see-saw to pump the plasmons, but of course,
other ways are possible to consider at this early juncture. 

We need to focus on what fits the facts. If you believe that the Levi
isotope sample was not compromised, then you might double-down on the
nuclear route. For me there is no proof of fusion, and no need for it. A
confirmation of even slight gain via SPP superradiance without use of a real
laser (Violante) would be a starting point-  and that could happen sooner
rather than later.

Jones




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Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
anapole field.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
 one quanta rather than more one.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

 How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described
 in this article?

  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.

 The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
 nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the
 metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity
 is pumped up in energy by something.

 The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
 available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
 of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the
 metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
 plasmonic entity.

 Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus with
 its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular
 momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return
 to a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and
 potentially  favor  a new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum
 of the coherent system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of
 many additional quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time.

 The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular
 momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from
 Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass
 changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.

 Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than
 what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.

 In keeping with humble conjectures,

 Bob Cook



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard
 nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the
 area that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it
 to cause nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the
 vacuum..

 On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Bob,

 The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
 are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
 http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
 Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

 I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author, but
 it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply to
 get away from that madness.

 Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
 still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model
 which
 was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now
 completely
 different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

 But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment, and
 if
 there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
 background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
 alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
 explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up suggesting
 that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. The
 Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is based
 on solid results for several major Universities.

 Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if and
 when
 their dummy turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That would
 be
 my expectation.

 Thanks for your insight.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Ellefson
 Dear Vortex-L,

 Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system based on
 a
 Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I hope to
 encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.

 In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash grain
 (particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html

 I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash
 represent
 dipole oscillators which have literally evolved from the initial nickel
 fuel
 grain clusters during the startup and then 

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toroidal_moment

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
 condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
 anapole field.

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
 one quanta rather than more one.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

 How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described
 in this article?

  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.

 The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
 nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the
 metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity
 is pumped up in energy by something.

 The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
 available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
 of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the
 metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
 plasmonic entity.

 Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus
 with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular
 momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return
 to a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and
 potentially  favor  a new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum
 of the coherent system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of
 many additional quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time.

 The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular
 momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from
 Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass
 changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.

 Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than
 what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.

 In keeping with humble conjectures,

 Bob Cook



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard
 nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the
 area that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it
 to cause nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the
 vacuum..

 On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
 wrote:

 Bob,

 The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
 are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
 http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
 Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

 I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author,
 but
 it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply
 to
 get away from that madness.

 Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
 still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model
 which
 was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now
 completely
 different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

 But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment,
 and if
 there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
 background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
 alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
 explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up
 suggesting
 that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. The
 Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is
 based
 on solid results for several major Universities.

 Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if and
 when
 their dummy turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That would
 be
 my expectation.

 Thanks for your insight.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Ellefson
 Dear Vortex-L,

 Stimulated by Jones Beene's thoughts on a coherent lasing system based
 on a
 Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) from his postings earlier today, I hope to
 encourage further discussion along these lines of thought.

 In reference to the characteristic morphology of the nickel ash grain
 (particle 1, figure 2, page 43) that I described in this posting:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg98350.html

 I believe that the abundant 2-micron protrusions in the nickel ash
 represent
 

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
For a picture of the beam see as follows:

*Surface plasmon polariton beam focusing with parabolic nanoparticle chains*

http://www.opticsinfobase.org/view_article.cfm?gotourl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eopticsinfobase%2Eorg%2FDirectPDFAccess%2FC327714B%2DDEF1%2D76CB%2D49D0E086EF9282B0%5F134709%2Foe%2D15%2D11%2D6576%2Epdf%3Fda%3D1%26id%3D134709%26seq%3D0%26mobile%3Dnoorg=

 quote:

Summarizing, we have realized the efficient SPP focusing with parabolic
chains of gold nanoparticles. The influence of excitation wavelength and
geometrical system parameters has been investigated with the help of LRM
imaging, demonstrating good stability and robustness of the focusing
effect. Numerical simulations based on the Green’s tensor formalism have
shown very good agreement with the experimental results, suggesting the
usage of elliptical corrections for parabolic structures to improve their
focusing of slightly divergent SPP beams.

The SPP splitting effect observed with narrow parabolic structures might
also be found useful in SPP micro-optics]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
 condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
 anapole field.

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
 one quanta rather than more one.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

 How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described
 in this article?

  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.

 The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
 nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the
 metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity
 is pumped up in energy by something.

 The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
 available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
 of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the
 metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
 plasmonic entity.

 Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus
 with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular
 momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return
 to a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and
 potentially  favor  a new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum
 of the coherent system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of
 many additional quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time.

 The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular
 momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from
 Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass
 changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.

 Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than
 what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.

 In keeping with humble conjectures,

 Bob Cook



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard
 nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the
 area that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it
 to cause nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the
 vacuum..

 On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
 wrote:

 Bob,

 The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
 are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
 http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
 Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

 I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author,
 but
 it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply
 to
 get away from that madness.

 Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
 still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model
 which
 was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now
 completely
 different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

 But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment,
 and if
 there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
 background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
 alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
 explanation is looking better and better as the papers 

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Cook

Jones-

We also must consider other reports of nuclear transmutations.  The Japanese 
literature is full of such transitions.  And of course there are many other 
reports of He, Tritium etc.  I for one do not think all of these transitions 
involve energetic (kinetic) reactions.  Some may, involving short range 
electrostatic accelerations.


As you indicate, who knows what options here below suggested reflect what 
might be called truth.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?



From: Bob Cook
*
* The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen 
values

of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy to the
metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
plasmonic entity.

There are a number of ways to look at an energy transfer mechanism; and 
the
main one which stands out for me now (in addition to DCE) is the transfer 
of

quanta of energy (spin energy) direct to the magnon from an electron which
is lost to the Dirac field. The driver for that is SPP but they are pumped
in a separate reaction. There are other ways to look at it: Bob suggests a
MIMS reaction, Axil suggests a nuclear reaction and Terry suggests proton 
to

neutron. Mills does not invoke SPP as a driver but a DDL/Millsean version
would result in DDL from a SPP driver.

So there are at least 5 ways that energy can be transferred from SPP to
lattice in nickel via an intermediary particle, 3 of them are non-nuclear.
There is another 6th way that gain can derive from Casimir DCE photon
multiplication. I consider this 6th way as the pumping mechanism for the 
SPP

- so that there is no mutual see-saw to pump the plasmons, but of course,
other ways are possible to consider at this early juncture.

We need to focus on what fits the facts. If you believe that the Levi
isotope sample was not compromised, then you might double-down on the
nuclear route. For me there is no proof of fusion, and no need for it. A
confirmation of even slight gain via SPP superradiance without use of a 
real

laser (Violante) would be a starting point-  and that could happen sooner
rather than later.

Jones









Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Cook
Axil--

I think I have seen this idea from you before.   Is there any paper with 
evidence of the reaction you suggest for an anapole field. 

 Why not just normal dipole or quadrupole reactions?

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP 
condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a 
anapole field.


  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to one 
quanta rather than more one.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Cook 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

  How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described 
in this article? 

   It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor. 

  The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the 
nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the 
metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity is 
pumped up in energy by something.  

  The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the 
available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values of 
spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the metal 
lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the plasmonic entity.

  Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus 
with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular 
momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return to 
a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and potentially  favor  a 
new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum of the coherent 
system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of many additional 
quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time. 

  The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular 
momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from 
Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass 
changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.   

  Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than 
what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.  

  In keeping with humble conjectures, 

  Bob Cook


- Original Message - 
From: Axil Axil 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard 
nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the area 
that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it to cause 
nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the vacuum..


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net 
wrote:

  Bob,

  The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for 
what we
  are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
  Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

  I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the 
author, but
  it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US 
simply to
  get away from that madness.

  Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - 
is
  still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a 
model which
  was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now 
completely
  different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

  But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment, 
and if
  there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less 
than
  background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
  alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this 
hybrid
  explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up 
suggesting
  that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. 
The
  Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is 
based
  on solid results for several major Universities.

  Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if 
and when
  their dummy turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That 
would be
  my expectation.

  Thanks for your insight.


  -Original 

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Cook
ChemE--

Thanks for that reference.  It includes the action of local E and B fields in 
the Hamiltonian and suggests what Axil identified about anapole fields.   What 
that Hamiltonian looks like in the solid state is more complicated IMHO.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: ChemE Stewart 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toroidal_moment



  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP 
condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a 
anapole field.


On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to 
one quanta rather than more one.

  Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Cook 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons 
described in this article? 

 It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor. 

The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the 
nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the 
metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity is 
pumped up in energy by something.  

The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the 
available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values of 
spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the metal 
lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the plasmonic entity.

Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus 
with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular 
momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return to 
a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and potentially  favor  a 
new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum of the coherent 
system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of many additional 
quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time. 

The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular 
momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from 
Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass 
changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.   

Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than 
what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.  

In keeping with humble conjectures, 

Bob Cook

  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard 
nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the area 
that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it to cause 
nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the vacuum..


  On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net 
wrote:

Bob,

The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for 
what we
are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the 
author, but
it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US 
simply to
get away from that madness.

Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about 
- is
still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a 
model which
was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now 
completely
different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this 
experiment, and if
there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually 
less than
background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this 
hybrid
explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up 
suggesting
that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves 
relevant. The
Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it 
is based
on solid results for several major 

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1204/1204.3564.pdf


*Half-solitons in a polariton quantum fluid behave like magnetic monopoles*

*I think that this paper was based on experiment.*

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Axil--

 I think I have seen this idea from you before.   Is there any paper with
 evidence of the reaction you suggest for an anapole field.

  Why not just normal dipole or quadrupole reactions?

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:30 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
 condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
 anapole field.

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
 one quanta rather than more one.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

 How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described
 in this article?

  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.

 The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
 nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the
 metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity
 is pumped up in energy by something.

 The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
 available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
 of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the
 metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
 plasmonic entity.

 Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus
 with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular
 momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return
 to a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and
 potentially  favor  a new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum
 of the coherent system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of
 many additional quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time.

 The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular
 momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from
 Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass
 changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.

 Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than
 what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.

 In keeping with humble conjectures,

 Bob Cook



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard
 nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the
 area that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it
 to cause nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the
 vacuum..

 On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
 wrote:

 Bob,

 The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for what we
 are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
 http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
 Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

 I am taken aback by a Russian PhD at Jackson State - being the author,
 but
 it is what it is. Lots of top-level Russians have come to the US simply
 to
 get away from that madness.

 Of course, this interlocking set of hypotheses we are talking about - is
 still a house of cards, and to combine so many mechanisms into a model
 which
 was ostensibly supposed to be based on nuclear fusion but is now
 completely
 different - is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

 But clearly there is no nuclear reaction involved in this experiment,
 and if
 there can be 1.5 megawatt of heat with counts that are actually less than
 background - I think we are on the right track to pursue any valid
 alternative, even if the thermal gain was half the claim; and this hybrid
 explanation is looking better and better as the papers mount up
 suggesting
 that the SPP, superradiance and MIMS details are themselves relevant. The
 Casimir leg of the table is a bit shakier, but maybe not since it is
 based
 on solid results for several major Universities.

 Hopefully the MFMP will see a further validation of this M.O.  - if and
 when
 their dummy turns out to produce what could be slight gain. That would
 be
 my expectation.

 Thanks for your insight.

 -Original 

[Vo]:To: Vortex-- ZPEnergy post on LENR.....thoughts welcomed

2014-10-22 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L.

I am not sure IF this worthy of passing this on to other
friends-researchers.
LENR...I am clueless.but

http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3579

Ad Astra, Ron Kita, Chiralex


Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Cook
Axil--

This is a interesting reference and brings in the concept of Rabi light-mass 
splitting and spin coupling, including orbital spin for coherent systems.   

Both effective mass for TE (electric) and TM (magnetic) fields are quantized 
with the magnetic mass of the order of an electron volt  for a 1/2 soliton--the 
so called anapole or magnetic monopole.  It is careful to point out that 
Maxwell's classical theory does not address the monopole construction.

One issue is that the experimental evidence was performed in a system at 10 K 
degrees.  

I wonder if the effects hold for room temperatures and higher?  Strong ambient  
magnetic fields may change the temperature at which the anapole can exist.  It 
would be nice to see a theoretical extension to higher temperatures.

Bob Cook


  - Original Message - 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1204/1204.3564.pdf



  Half-solitons in a polariton quantum fluid behave like magnetic monopoles


  I think that this paper was based on experiment.


  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

Axil--

I think I have seen this idea from you before.   Is there any paper with 
evidence of the reaction you suggest for an anapole field. 

 Why not just normal dipole or quadrupole reactions?

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP 
condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a 
anapole field.


  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to 
one quanta rather than more one.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Cook 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


  Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

  How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons 
described in this article? 

   It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor. 

  The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the 
nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the 
metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity is 
pumped up in energy by something.  

  The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the 
available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values of 
spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the metal 
lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the plasmonic entity.

  Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus 
with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular 
momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return to 
a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and potentially  favor  a 
new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum of the coherent 
system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of many additional 
quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time. 

  The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular 
momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from 
Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass 
changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.   

  Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more 
than what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.  

  In keeping with humble conjectures, 

  Bob Cook


- Original Message - 
From: Axil Axil 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?


Please...yes, you are all on the right track,,,This is all standard 
nanoplasmonic theory. What is not covered by you good fellows yet and the area 
that I am still ahead on is how the SPP concentrate EMF and project it to cause 
nuclear reactions with the help of particle formation from the vacuum..


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net 
wrote:

  Bob,

  The Pustovit paper you found certainly supplies the formalism for 
what we
  are suggesting, and is almost too perfect.
  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.0422v3.pdf
  Plasmon-mediated superradiance near metal nanostructures

  I am taken aback by a Russian 

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
As the density of polaritons goes up, their effective mass goes down and
this allows for increasing  temperature range of their condensation. I
posted this effective mass, density, condensation temperature relationship
some days ago.

The polariton condensation temperature range in the Ni/H reactor is
extremely high because the mass of the polariton is extremely low produced
by the polariton density as being  extremely high.

Experiments cannot achieve such high polariton densities so the
experimenters must use low temperatures and low polariton densities to see
the polariton condensation.

This extreme density behavior of the Ni/H reactor is rooted in the positive
feedback loop between the polariton condensate and the nuclear reactions
that the polaritons produce. This polariton density behavior is similar in
concept to the chain reaction that neutrons cause with U235.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Axil--

 This is a interesting reference and brings in the concept of Rabi
 light-mass splitting and spin coupling, including orbital spin for coherent
 systems.

 Both effective mass for TE (electric) and TM (magnetic) fields are
 quantized with the magnetic mass of the order of an electron volt  for a
 1/2 soliton--the so called anapole or magnetic monopole.  It is careful to
 point out that Maxwell's classical theory does not address the monopole
 construction.

 One issue is that the experimental evidence was performed in a system at
 10 K degrees.

 I wonder if the effects hold for room temperatures and higher?
 Strong ambient  magnetic fields may change the temperature at which the
 anapole can exist.  It would be nice to see a theoretical extension to
 higher temperatures.

 Bob Cook



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:40 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

  http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1204/1204.3564.pdf


 *Half-solitons in a polariton quantum fluid behave like magnetic monopoles*

  *I think that this paper was based on experiment.*

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  Axil--

 I think I have seen this idea from you before.   Is there any paper with
 evidence of the reaction you suggest for an anapole field.

  Why not just normal dipole or quadrupole reactions?

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
  *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:30 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
 condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
 anapole field.

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
 one quanta rather than more one.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

 How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons described
 in this article?

  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.

 The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
 nanoplasmonic substance and, hence via super radiance to the lattice of the
 metal, seems correct assuming the  nanoplasmonic coherent system or entity
 is pumped up in energy by something.

 The paper cited does not address the possible ways of exciting the
 available plasmonic entity Eigen states.  It does suggest that Eigen values
 of spin 1 are preferred in the transfer of small quanta of energy  to the
 metal lattice and this suggests a mechanism for mass transfer to the
 plasmonic entity.

 Potentially, a two way reaction takes place where  an excited nucleus
 with its angular momentum  Eigen states   transfers one quanta of angular
 momentum to the plasmonic state.  This would change the odds for the return
 to a lower energy nuclear state of the original nucleus and
 potentially  favor  a new set of nuclei which conserve the angular momentum
 of the coherent system--nuclei and nanoplasmonic state  with a transfer of
 many additional quanta to the plasmonic entity one quanta at a time.

 The nanoplasmonic state then proceeds to transfer its excess angular
 momentum energy back to the metal lattice (as suggested in the paper from
 Jackson State and the French University contributors) with the excess mass
 changed to small bits of radiant energy and hence to heat.

 Exciting the Eigen states of the original nucleus is nothing more than
 what is done in NMR (MRI)  machines and maybe Rossi's reactor.

 In keeping with humble conjectures,

 Bob Cook



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l 

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
here is that post on the density relationship as follows:

*http://scitation.aip.org/*content/aip/journal/jcp/136/3/10.1063/1.3678015
http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/jcp/136/3/10.1063/1.3678015

*Quote:*
Within the optical cavity, the photons acquire an effective mass as
determined by the cut-off frequency of the cavity that can be 6–7 orders of
magnitude less than mass of an electron. *Depending upon the density, this
allows for a BEC transition temperature that can approach room temperature.
*Polaritons are also ultra-light quasiparticles that are known to condense
in systems composed of a semiconducting quantum well sandwiched between two
reflective mirrors. 2–6 In this case, however, the polaritons act as
hard-core Bosons and scattering at high density allows for a rapid
thermalization of the gas.


Note: the temperature of condensation of polaritons is proportional to the
density of the polaritons and so is their effective mass. The Ni/H reactor
produces a huge density of coherent polaritons far greater than what a
single Nano-cavity can produce. The effective mass of the polariton can
drop into the millivolts.

Within the Ni/H reactor's reaction, there is a positive feedback mechanism
in place that converts nuclear energy into infrared photons and electrons
from more vigorous dipole motion. This energy infusion pushes the density
of the polaritons to extreme levels causing the condensate to establish at
ever higher temperatures.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 As the density of polaritons goes up, their effective mass goes down and
 this allows for increasing  temperature range of their condensation. I
 posted this effective mass, density, condensation temperature relationship
 some days ago.

 The polariton condensation temperature range in the Ni/H reactor is
 extremely high because the mass of the polariton is extremely low produced
 by the polariton density as being  extremely high.

 Experiments cannot achieve such high polariton densities so the
 experimenters must use low temperatures and low polariton densities to see
 the polariton condensation.

 This extreme density behavior of the Ni/H reactor is rooted in the
 positive feedback loop between the polariton condensate and the nuclear
 reactions that the polaritons produce. This polariton density behavior is
 similar in concept to the chain reaction that neutrons cause with U235.

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Axil--

 This is a interesting reference and brings in the concept of Rabi
 light-mass splitting and spin coupling, including orbital spin for coherent
 systems.

 Both effective mass for TE (electric) and TM (magnetic) fields are
 quantized with the magnetic mass of the order of an electron volt  for a
 1/2 soliton--the so called anapole or magnetic monopole.  It is careful to
 point out that Maxwell's classical theory does not address the monopole
 construction.

 One issue is that the experimental evidence was performed in a system at
 10 K degrees.

 I wonder if the effects hold for room temperatures and higher?
 Strong ambient  magnetic fields may change the temperature at which the
 anapole can exist.  It would be nice to see a theoretical extension to
 higher temperatures.

 Bob Cook



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:40 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

  http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1204/1204.3564.pdf


 *Half-solitons in a polariton quantum fluid behave like magnetic
 monopoles*

  *I think that this paper was based on experiment.*

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  Axil--

 I think I have seen this idea from you before.   Is there any paper with
 evidence of the reaction you suggest for an anapole field.

  Why not just normal dipole or quadrupole reactions?

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
  *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:30 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 There is a two. way full duplex energy transfer path between the SPP
 condensate and the nuclear reactions via a magnetic field. Specifically a
 anapole field.

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  I made a mistake in the 4th paragraph and have changed the wording to
 one quanta rather than more one.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

 Axil, Robert, Jones etal.--

 How does the mass energy of a nucleus transfer to the plasmons
 described in this article?

  It must be the secret sauce of Rossi's reactor.

 The mechanism of transferring the energy to the dipoles of the
 nanoplasmonic 

[Vo]: Dark Matter

2014-10-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
Scientists believe they might have detected dark matter for the first time
– streaming from our very own Sun.

If confirmed, it would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in the quest to
better understand the universe.

Read more:
http://www.3news.co.nz/world/astronomers-claim-dark-matter-breakthrough-2014102211#ixzz3Gu8tGFYT

Wait until they find out it is inflating into Dark Energy and causing our
weather...


[Vo]:October 12, 2014 – By Steven B. Krivit

2014-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2014/10/12/rossi-handles-samples-in-alleged-independent-test-of-his-device/

Rossi Handles Samples in Alleged Independent Test of His Device
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2014/10/12/rossi-handles-samples-in-alleged-independent-test-of-his-device/
Oct122014

[image: Andrea Rossi, E-Cat Inventor]

Andrea Rossi, E-Cat Inventor
(Image courtesy Mats Lewan)

*October 12, 2014 – By Steven B. Krivit*