Re: [Vo]: Neutron Tunneling Theory regarding Lugano Report--

2014-12-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Transmutation being 1 in 10^6 is good enough for me. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: . This doesn't explain why the reaction stopped at 62Ni. The one particle is one in a million. The transmutation result is just a result of chance.

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Your last comment: I do not think so. I do not know of any inherently safe products that regulated solely for the good of society. Making beer and wine is limited and distilling ethanol is prohibited without a license. (Ethanol,

[Vo]:LENR discussion and info

2014-12-12 Thread Peter Gluck
I have now published this http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/12/daily-shared-lenr-discussions-december.html The most interesting info (?) will come later this night Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- I hope you are correct. Your argument about the washing machines probably allowed people to go to work, not lose their jobs. Particularly, housewives and husbands--I might add--. Their UNPAID efforts were no longer needed at home and they got jobs to provided financial support for

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread H Veeder
Nothing is inherently safe. Everything is potentially dangerous. Drinking water is toxic when too much is consumed. There is no such thing as safe sex. Explosives are safe when used correctly and appropriately. One way to minimize the dangers is to enact laws that can be used to regulate

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Your argument about the washing machines probably allowed people to go to work, not lose their jobs. Many housemaids made a living doing laundry and other housework in the 19th century. There were so many that magazines at the time announced a manpower

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing is inherently safe. Everything is potentially dangerous. Drinking water is toxic when too much is consumed. There is no such thing as safe sex. Explosives are safe when used correctly and appropriately. But some things are a lot safer than

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: That would be a fascist solution to a problem that easily be solved by capitalistic methods. Okay not exactly capitalistic by present-day standards. I mean handing out money to everyone. Capitalism and socialism are both economic systems predicated on the exchange of human labor for

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Bob Cook
Jed I was beginning to think your arguments were based on black or white, no gray, in decision making regarding welfare and rights as to what you consider rights. I am glad you recognize there are gray areas as to safety of some things--water as you indicate. Water production--mining is

Re: [Vo]:More from Takashashi about mixing

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I suggest you ignore Shanahan's blather. Let him go after some definitive work such as McKubre, Storms or Miles. Kitamura's calorimetry was not impressive years ago, although I doubt it was as bad as Shanahan imagines. It is lately improved and the results are also better. See:

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread John Berry
Ok, let's explore options... 1: Hand out free money, the devil is in the details it seems, but done right this is promising. 2: Get paid for work a robot does, in the end this is similar as getting money for free, except it requires too much initiative, outlay and luck. You need your robot to be

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread John Berry
Bob, unlike Jed I do think your protectionist laws are plausible. And while at first blush I considered them very promising, I then saw a bunch of problems, and the largest problem as I see it is in a loss of productivity. Ultimately robots are a offering a path away from scarcity and towards

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: 3: Free stuff, have the staples of life given freely, though not unlimitedly. It is easier and more efficient to hand out money. People who run soup kitchens and disaster relief say so. Given a choice between donations of canned goods from families

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread John Berry
I just had another idea. Self sufficiency. The idea is that with sufficient advances in 3D printers and robots. And growing your own food in a personal multi level garden... Maybe a goat to keep the grass short, provide milk and maybe eventually meat... Ok, that sounds like a stretch, but what

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I just had another idea. Self sufficiency. The idea is that with sufficient advances in 3D printers and robots. And growing your own food in a personal multi level garden... Let me again point out that Arthur Clarke described this and all of the

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread John Berry
Jed says: *Probably that kind of conspicuous consumption will lose its charm. When anyone can do such things, most people will not bother. I do not see anything inherently pleasurable about living in a house with dozens of empty rooms.* I quite agree. I think currently it is the meaning those

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread John Berry
What he did not envision is that electronic books are music are often freely available either by or inspite of the publishers wishes. This is not a bad thing though, music created by those who want to create great music has always sounded better than commercially focused efforts. And the same

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: What he [Clarke] did not envision is that electronic books are music are often freely available either by or inspite of the publishers wishes. He did, actually. Maybe not in Profiles but he saw that coming long before most people did. As an author

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing is inherently safe. Everything is potentially dangerous. Drinking water is toxic when too much is consumed. There is no such thing as safe sex. Explosives are safe when

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:23 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, unlike Jed I do think your protectionist laws are plausible. And while at first blush I considered them very promising, I then saw a bunch of problems, and the largest problem as I see it is in a loss of

[Vo]:Regions of Operation of Thermal Feedback Systems

2014-12-12 Thread David Roberson
As time permits I have been running computer simulations of the behavior of an ECAT type of device in order to better understand its operating states. It appears that there are three distinct regions of operation that are encountered which have well defined characteristics. A brief discussion

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread H Veeder
​I wrote: Most people know how to drink water without choking so there is no need to be alert and careful in that case. But in other cases where someone has a swallowing disorder you need to be alert and careful. Harry Technically I should have said without aspirating instead of without

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-12 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-vnB16E36EQ Thanks Harry. This was fascinating to watch and very informative too. They probably are on to something. A paradigm shift, I'd say. I hope these