John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> 3: Free stuff, have the staples of life given freely, though not
> unlimitedly.
>

It is easier and more efficient to hand out money. People who run soup
kitchens and disaster relief say so. Given a choice between donations of
canned goods from families and donations of cash money, they prefer the
latter. Handing out actual physical goods causes many problems because
people often do not need or want the goods you happen to have on hand.



> People who don't work would essentially live a moneyless life.
> This idea has plenty of downsides that I can see, but an upside would be
> that the motivation of wanting extra stuff that only money could buy could
> be a drive to earn money by being productive somehow.
>

You can accomplish the same thing by limiting the amount of money you hand
out. It has been suggested that given the present state of the US economy
and technology, a limit of ~$10,000 per year per person would be a good
target. I do not know the details but that sounds plausible. Obviously we
cannot go directly to a system where everyone gets lavish sums of money
such as $100,000 a year. That would cause inflation, and it would also mean
that many important but tedious or dirty jobs will not be done.

In the distant future when robots are perfected I see no reason why people
should not get $100,000 a year (adjusted for inflation). Heck, if the
robots can make enough stuff without hurting the ecology, give everyone $1
million a year. Who cares? The only situation I want to avoid is where my
neighbor buys a dozen Rolls-Royces and parks them on the street in front of
my house, or builds a giant McMansion that blocks my view. Like the
situation in Los Angeles where people living in 20,000 square-foot mansions
are complaining about other people building 50,000 square-foot mansions:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/07/style/in-los-angeles-a-nimby-battle-pits-millionaires-vs-billionaires.html

As long as people's consumption does not take away resources from other
people, or bother me, or hurt the ecology, I don't care how much they get
or how much they consume. Given today's limited resources, it is morally
wrong to live in a gigantic house with hundreds of rooms, or to spend
millions on your wardrobe. But in the future when we have unlimited
resources such behavior will be at worst childish, or silly, or a sign of
mental illness. Probably that kind of conspicuous consumption will lose its
charm. When anyone can do such things, most people will not bother. I do
not see anything inherently pleasurable about living in a house with dozens
of empty rooms.

- Jed

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