https://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2023-11-13-researchers-aim-make-cheaper-fuel-cells-reality
Should not P get a little credit for this catalyst - not to mention J?
... and/or ... is LENR involved in the improvement ?
Most everyone on this forum has seen the movie by now...
There was no mention in the film of the "Oppenheimer-Phillips effect" nor of
Melba Phillips.
We did mention in a Vortex thread here years ago the possibility that one
version of LANR (lattice assisted) was in fact a hybrid of the
the arm-chair physicists out there seem to be positing "a new kind of
superconductivity" rather than, you know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLr95AFBRXI
Terry Blanton wrote:
Rendered Invalid
This story turns out to have been around the net for a long time
It appeared in the record as a compound named LK-99 = Lee-Kim (1999):
IOW - they discovered it nearly a quarter of a century ago.. makes one wonder
if this post is not an odd troll
Not to mention, an unreasonable time to isolate,
There have been other claimants - this is not the first but it may become the
first to be fully replicated and notably it shows the Meissner effect which
most of the others did not,
The affiliation of the authors is not clear
The Superconductor is Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O (a common mineral) showing
Warning (esp for viewers of 'The Last of Us')
This news story could be a 'plant' so to speak...
The zombie fungus cordyceps reportedly has well-placed propagandists ...
Terry Blanton wrote:
The premise is that entangled behavior is a feature of an expanded ground
state— the goal being to harvest zero-point energy from a system whose ground
state naturally features entanglement and redundancy
This has been reported before in less detail
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In February, 2023, the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) $10 million in funding
Terry Blanton wrote::
> For what magnetic material?
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-elon-musk-magnet-mystery/
/well - Possibly it is a big surprise - iron nitride !
This material has been known for a long time (that there is a rare nano-phase
of iron and nitrogen with spectacular magnetic
One wonders if this story could be related to Mills / Holmlid (ultradense
hydrogen) etc ?
https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-discover-a-strange-new-theoretical-phase-of-hydrogen
Recently it was mentioned here (Axil ?) that a new room temp superconductor was
claimed by a group at Rochester U.
I lost the post. The material in question is nitrogen-doped lutetium hydride
and it demonstrates superconductivity at 21 °C (69.5 °F) at 145,000 psi. The
pressure may sound
Terry Blanton wrote:
> And there was "Contagion" in 2011...
Don't forget the zombie fungus in "Last of Us" on HBO this year
One can only wonder what the true death toll in China was ...
On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 08:02:56 AM PST, Terry Blanton
wrote:
According to the DoE new intelligence:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a
From the subject line, I thought this was going to be about the balloon
objects...
Robin wrote:
> If you multiply the weight of hydrogen in the form of water in the oceans, by
> the fine structure constant, you end up
with the weight of Oxygen in the atmosphere.
Prescient episode of 60 Minutes... mentioned here
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Is this early April fools from NASA? One of many big problems is that although
lattice fusion reportedly can produce a small flux of neutrons, they are not
fast neutrons... far from it.
Fast fission requires very fast neutrons - typically about 1 MeV. Unless of
course there has been a
king IMHO/
I see a trues in the new YEAR WITH Ukraine 95 % WHOLE—MAYBE AN OLD ww2 CRUSIER
AS A CONSOLATION PRIZE FOR THE RUSSIAN NAVY.
FRC
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To: vortex-l@eski
Blanton wrote:
The missing suitcase nukes hidden in cities in the US is not a new story. I'm
sure it was around in the 90s after the collapse of the SU. If NEST hasn't
found them by now, well...
Jones Beene wrote:
Can this upcoming year, 2023, possibly be Happy for most of us ?
Consider
Can this upcoming year, 2023, possibly be Happy for most of us ?
Consider this: the situation in Ukraine has cast a dark shadow over everything.
Basically, Russia cannot win, nor can they fully lose... so long as a nuclear
option exists.
Most military experts rule out that option, but they
Thanks for posting this.
The big picture gets even more bizarre when you throw in quantum computing...
... or in the spirit of the Season: "in the beginning was the qubit"
Terry Blanton wrote:
I first read this idea from Stanford University professor Leonard Susskind's
The Cosmic
Even so - isn't it true that the bottom line is that it will be far cheaper to
make solar cells, given the abundance of silicon on the moon - and get
electrical power that way compared with fusion.
Far far far cheaper.
Robin wrote:
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 18
Terry Blanton wrote:
> The moon has lots of 3He and it gets closer every day.
Then we should tap that "close" source directly - the moons' gravitational pull
( ie tidal energy) Maybe cheaper that hot fusion anyway
When the accountants get into the picture - the ever increasing costs of duel
Dead in the water...
Requires lots of helium-3 to become commercial
H LV wrote:
A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion
This would not possible without fibre optics to get the timing right of the
electrical pulses.
https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38
Harry
The actual shutdown routing... given the MADness of the War in Ukraine, seems
to be rather evident and imminent.
H LV wrote:
"Computer. End program"
On Tue., Nov. 22, 2022, 5:25 p.m. Terry Blanton, wrote:
Maybe LENR is the " "The Thirteenth Floor" " ...
Terry Blanton wrote:
https://www.sciencealert.com/expert-proposes-a-method-for-telling-if-we-all-live-in-a-computer-program
Can we falsify the existence of a simulated universe?
With all the wild talk and propaganda about Russia actually using nukes in the
"special military operation" in Ukraine, it was only a matter of time before
red-mercury and/or "fogbank" and/or "ballotechnics" made the rounds.
If Ukraine really was a main supplier of this material, then that may
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/worlds-largest-electrolyzer-has-the-shape-of-screwdriver
... then there's a quantum concept called "afterglow" ...
which could explain a lot if it were not imaginary
https://phys.org/news/2015-03-photon-afterglow-transmit-transmitting-energy.html
One curious detail which sounds crazy but is worth a passing mention is the
physical similarity of the experiment to the design of Stanley Meyer's device.
Has this ever been mentioned before?
This experiment uses two closely spaced brass tubes, one of which is plated
with iron. The results
As Lerner admits, the CMB is the main thing which is holding the big bang
theory together.
Yet the 'experts' really can't explain exactly how CMB radiation, which is
moving away from us at light-speed from a single point in time, manages to
somehow magically be reflected back so as to be
Slightly off-topic ...
Some of this stuff could have gone mainstream if Earth-Tech had validated any
form of OU.
They gave it a try and to their credit did not cut corners... and they had some
provocative results
... had they been better funded - who knows?
Terry Blanton wrote:
"Clean Planet" has a boiler under development in partnership with Miura
Co.,Ltd., leading boiler manufacturer in Japan. There does not appear to be a
convincing video that I can find.
Frank Grimer wrote:
Thanks Terry but that's not it. I seem to remember a specimen, presumably
Speaking of Ni isotopes... Axil mentions Ni64 and Ni62 in this LENR context
... Is it significant that the Higgs mass is close to twice the average mass of
nickel? An alloy of copper and nickel can be produce which is essentially
identical in mass to twice Higgs.
Coincidence of irrelevant ?
Terry
Here is a little better coverage
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/30/photos-inside-tae-technologies-lab-and-nuclear-fusion-machine.html
Were it not for Google being involved, however, it would probably be yet
another "meh" hot fusion effort - perpetually thirty years away... BUT
Can anyone comment on the reality of the Brillouin "breakthrough" claim ?
For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable
Can they now demonstrate net real gain?
Jed Rothwell wrote:
QUOTE:
Brillouin Energy Corp Demonstrates CleanTech Licensable Solid State
Frank
The effect is an interesting phenomenon even if the tendency is to overlook
rolling resistance and friction. But the problem for the average observer - the
problem with any metaphor or model for LENR - after all these years, is simple.
No commercial device.
Not just no commercial
This similar vid is even a bit more "fake" in terms of expectation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvlmdPLMQM4
The more general phenomenon seems to be called the Brachistochrome Problem
https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Brac
Jones
Frank Grimer wrote:
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Frank Grimer wrote:
Test of text
Robin wrote:
BTW do you have the Larmor tables for thorium in a weak field? My tables will
not open.
Thorium would be a better choice than U and is available online. I suspect that
in a weak field the NMR resonance is going to be in the tens of MHz.
Essentially this means that the
Speaking of thorium (plus LENR techniques) - yet in the category of being
"overlooked"
Here is a 24 year old paper that seems to have slipped through the cracks.
Top lab did the work - competent researchers - best of the best of Italy -
what's not to like?
Brown was not a fraud - but not shown to be correct either. He had support
from experts and his detractors were often part of the "nuclear establishment"
where billions were/are at stake.
As for the tech - NMR is used all the time in other fields and that technology
could be related to
Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say ...
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/
Terry Blanton wrote:
Paul envisioned his Nucell Resonant Nuclear Battery helping solve climate
change in 1989.
What is the meaning of Bearden's work - as you understand it? Was there
reliable evidence of an energy anomaly?
As I recall, there were several high quality attempted replications of MEG -
like that of Naudin which showed nothing more than a moderately efficient
transformer
Jones
David
Elon Musk has a strong and important opinion on using hydrogen as a way to
store green (wind) energy
"The most dumb thing"
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/12/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-dismisses-hydrogen-as-tool-for-energy-storage.html
However, Musk's starting assumptions could be wrong -
... if that is
This mega-project - which is to split water on a massive scale using green
energy (wind) - makes almost no economic sense to many observers of alternative
energy ... especially not to Elon Musk - who thinks battery storage makes more
sense.
Laser cooling ... could this mechanism (arguably) have a connection to the
Holmlid effect?
Holmlid suggests that laser irradiation in his reactor is able to annihilate
protons, converting them to muons, Ostensibly this sounds more like heating
than cooling.
Unfortunately his company -
There is huge pent-up demand for cheap and carbon-free electrical power these
days, and gullible investors are constantly being fooled. PT Barnum
underestimated.
Holcomb Energy's technical claims may be unsophisticated to the point of being
laughable but they will find a few suckers. Holcomb
Harry - perhaps you should have a look at the work and patents of Haisch and
Moddel on the Lamb shift mechanism using hydrogen or helium in Casimir
cavities.
The dynamical Casimir effect can be either positive or negative and Lamb shift
photons would be cold. IIRC there was a measured
Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back.
... or Steorn.
Terry Blanton wrote:
So does anyone know about these folks? They make me think of Steorn but with
credentials.
https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/
THE TECHNOLOGY
The HES utilizes
On the possibility of "dense helium" - shall we call it the "alpharino" ?
Helium, unlike hydrogen, will not diffuse through metals - so long as the metal
is nonporous. The first step in densification is (probably) diffusion... but
that problem may not be the end-of-story.
Raney nickel for
HLV wrote:
A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist
Physics Letters B Volume 794, 10 July 2019, Pages 130-134
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624
Thanks for posting this. One curious observation is that there are a few other
atoms besides hydrogen which
Similar concept to a recent thread here -
very low power density now - plenty of room for improvement
https://scitechdaily.com/harvesting-energy-at-night-solar-cell-keeps-working-long-after-sun-sets/
funding likely to be available from Arabia
Jonathan Berry wrote:
> Interesting idea And while I don't think there are many things that could
> be introduced as a toy (Otis T. Carr's patent aside) ...Or maybe a perpetual
> motion toy, albeit if that was cheap enough to be for kids it would be a toy
> adults would want even more
H LV wrote:
"Free rider." ... I think public transport should be free too.but of course
it won't really be free.
Few thins are really free, of course especially if carbon fuel is consumed. But
basic transportation can be much smarter and less costly, perhaps fuel-free and
out-of-pocket
There is a backstory that makes the Musk Apr1 farcical endorsement of hydrogen
more curious to those on this list.
Elon had done a rather solid and logical interview a few months back - it's on
YTube - in which he strongly put down the notion that H2 had any chance to
become a future
https://www.whichev.net/2022/04/01/elon-musk-announces-tesla-will-switch-to-hydrogen-in-2024/
Hey Jed / Terry and others near Atlanta GA
As it turns out - Miura have a US-based factory in Georgia about and hour from
Atlanta -
Might be worth making contact - if you believe that "Clean Planet" is the real
deal..
I am amazed that Clean Planet does not generate more comments on the
This company - Miura - has over 6000 employees and will be producing the Clean
Planet device, which is a "boiler" that can supply heat or eventually:
steam-to-electricity.
https://www.miuraz.co.jp/news/newsrelease/2021/1132.php
They call the operative technology "Quantum hydrogen" which is
Yup. One of the co-authors is Larry Forsley - who has been involved in CF/LENR
research for decades.
We can imagine that n order to maintain funding levels they have chosen the
(politically correct) posture of not linking the work too closely to cold
fusion.
Jack Cole wrote:
You
Often it seems: the same materials, when formed in nano-layers as opposed to a
mix - an alloy - have unexpected large physical differences from each other,
such as hardness, as here
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1149/1.2054717/pdf
I wonder if the electrical conductivity of a layered
The fact that Celani had demonstrated modest but well-publicized positive
results a decade ago - using an alloy of copper and nickel as catalyst is
probably important in understanding what is going on today with the Clean
Planet technology.
Clean Planet apparently used that information from
The problem in forecasting an actual use and implementation of 'new hydrogen'
technologies is that the first implementation may not look very much like
present expectations, based on the past 33 year history... even though one tech
has led directly to the other,
It looks to me like the Clean
This is from a new Australian company - Hysata.
https://newatlas.com/energy/hysata-efficient-hydrogen-electrolysis/
This could be an important step forward for LENR as well.
It could be a bit more than an incremental progression.
Most viable concepts for commercial vehicles which would utilize
Robin
There is a possibility that the NAE site corresponds to the Casimir effect and
its geometry.
Otherwise it is a coincidence that the presumed active zone is similar.
This Casimir dimension has maximum effect at around 2 nm --- and by now could
be etched using state of the art
Terry Blanton wrote:
Surely not:
https://cleantechnica.com/2022/03/07/would-russia-be-invading-ukraine-right-now-if-elon-musk-hadnt-shifted-the-course-of-automotive-history/
As almost everyone suspects - Elon is not the kind of genius that you want as
your enemy.
For one thing the
Time's a wasting. This prize should be claimed by someone we know, no?
Why not Celani himself? Maybe that is part of a strategic mystery scheme on his
part
There is the older body of evidence for copper-nickel alloy, Constantin, and/or
Monel being active for reproducible thermal anomalies
Ukraine is about the size of Texas and has a population of over 40 million.
In terms of economic potential - Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore
reserves
2nd place in the world in
russ.geo...@gmail.com wrote:
> You might watch this professor of international affairs who is very learned
> about the Ukraine. https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4
Very prophetic. If we "follow the buck" the main overall motivation for
invasion, as always, seems to be oil.
There could be a subplot
Many observers were surprised that one of the first Ukraine invasion targets
for Russia was the cursed Chernobyl site.
Why ?
Given that the bottom line is going to be very costly for Putin - there must be
a hidden agenda here.
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:
> “One such Hail Mary pass in the theoretical world is a tool called the
> holographic principle...
There could be much more to this story, Bob.
Although it may sound ridiculous at first - the hologram or rather a
holographic projection made by a laser offers
The dishonesty and the economic waste of this R effort is alarming
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2022/02/15/open-letter-to-editors-of-science/
Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Is there an H-D reaction?
Awkshually ... (according to Wiki) H+D is the predominant nuclear fusion
reaction on our sun - not D+D.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium_fusion
Gamma radiation, or lack thereof is the key. Since H-D has no gamma signature -
one point
'Stretched water' - as weird as it sounds, is a real mainstream property of
water, one which could explain some of the thermal anomalies that are lumped
under the category of LENR.
https://www.nist.gov/publications/static-and-dynamic-properties-stretched-water
This article brought to mind the Stanley Meyer lore from many years ago. That
may sound like an odd connection. It is the double layer connection ,,,
Although deceased for several decades, Meyer was a contentious figure in so
called "water fuel" electrolysis, with a cult-like following even
I'm getting a 404 error on that link
Try this one
https://phys.org/news/2022-01-century-old-electrochemistry-law.html
On Monday, January 24, 2022, 02:00:55 PM PST, CB Sites
wrote:
Phys.org has a nice snippet on the Gouy-Chapman theory that describes how
charge is distributed in
at night. The elliptical reflector was almost as good.
https://youtu.be/7qZodSfFQCM
Harry
Jones Beene wrote:
Of interest:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262806145_Blue_Sky_Cooling_for_Parabolic_Trough_Plants
Of interest:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262806145_Blue_Sky_Cooling_for_Parabolic_Trough_Plants
Although most of those who post to "overunity" newsgroups actually do realize
that - in the end - there is no such thing as perpetual motion. Or, the free
lunch is never free, if you prefer.
OU has become one of those legendary quests - like that for the holy grail,
which as a meme, must
A nickel-beryllium alloy could be an interesting and available catalyst for use
in Mills-Holmlid dense hydrogen research. It would be an active material in
several ways - used as the target for a high pressure flow of hydrogen. The 360
alloy is mostly nickel with a few % beryllium and some
An Indian perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a5NyUITbyk
Jed Rothwell wrote:
This is great stuff.
This method was used to make ice in lowland India starting in the 16th century.
Lowland India is hot!
LOL - Maybe the backstory is that there was a real Star Wars in a galaxy
far,far away and Mars was peripheral damage ? Another strained coincidence
behind this bit of "lockdown lunacy" is the description of the nuke in the
paper, which seems to roughly match the Oumuamua "asteroid" of a few
... not to mention PKD's fabulous story: "Total Recall" which has the further
subplot of implanted memory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_(1990_film)#Reality_or_fantasy
MSF wrote:
So it looks as if Edgar Rice Burroughs was right. We should rename the place
Barsoom and see
Ancient history of Mars?
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2015/eposter/2660.pdf
Maybe Elon, a suspected alien himself - knows a few things that we don't even
begin to comprehend :-)
The most interesting new - but actually old - engine development (esp. for
those who think LENR has a future in transportation) is the re-emergence of the
Stilrling design. This engine design and the Brayton cycle, in general, never
made the grade for commercialization - before now, at least.
Brilliant ... and (in general) such gadgets as solar powered motion detectors
are such a bargain aren't they?
Isn't it amazing how the level of affordable sophistication in relatively
mundane products has increased - and at very low cost considering the
technology involved. The progress in
Here's one to look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telegraph
Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
What is the rate of transfer of information? Only a single bit one time?
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:43 PM Robin wrote:
In reply to Giovanni Santostasi's message of Tue, 28 Dec 2021
Ron,
Is chirality involved with the Rossi claim?
LOL - he has apparently dropped LENR for ZPE...
For those who are not aware of the "chiral miracle"
https://cqgplus.com/2016/09/12/cqg-insight-chiral-gravity/
The LED or "light-emitting diode" as we all appreciate, is defined as a
semiconductor junction which emits visible light when a voltage is applied.
There are other kinds of diodes which emit light but do not employ a
semiconductor. Consequently, it would not be incorrect - semantically - to
> Is this device looking like a repackaged HID lamp?
Curiously, it could still be gainful - which is not clear from the data.
BTW the operational data was supplied by the genius - Levi - deja vu all over
again.
OK - if we are not in some strange time warp, this collection of details begs
the
Is this device looking like a repackaged HID lamp?
Time will tell ...
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
Axil, I can send you any time a gamma spectrum with 300 active lines from a
cold fusion reaction...-
Is this work published?
It should be included in the LENR/CANR library, especially if the gamma lines
support a theory
Bill Antoni wrote:
> in relation to Robin's suggestion of using a saturated KOH solution in an
> electrolytic cell, which I found interesting because that is something I
> personally explored a while back in crude experiments, as it can
> significantly lower the voltage from which a visible
Bill Antoni wrote:
> FWIW, excess hydrogen output (relative to Faraday efficiency) has been
> measured in plasma electrolysis cells in the early 2000s by Mizuno et al.,
> but they found it to be correlated with negative heat (endothermic
> reaction). When excess heat was present, there
This article was sent to me on the related topic of 'magnetic water-splitting'
(related to NMR in the obvious way).
Magnet doubles hydrogen yield from water splitting
Aligning the spin states of oxygen intermediates overcomes a bottleneck in
Robin, your comment brings up an interesting possibility - at least for
water-splitting... given the large amount of effort that has gone into
efficient electrolysis over the past few decades
There is copious data to indicate that KOH electrolysis can exceed "unity" ...
by a small amount, but
An accelerated weak-force interaction - as odd as this possibility may sound -
could be of interest to those trying to find and optimize what is in fact
"real" nuclear energy - but which may have been classified as LENR or Millsean
- formerly.
This is rather ironic but the radioactive isotope
MSF wrote:
Jones, is there a link where we could access your monel metal experiments?
Years ago, I did a lot of CF experiments using cupronickel in an unusual form.
These were successful, but the results were inconsistent for reasons that are
obvious when you know my procedure. I am not a
Thanks for remembering this experiment from Simon Brink !
The effect is surprisingly large and my bet is that it only works well with 316
grade SS.
If so - that would be good evidence for Mills' theory and the importance of the
lowest energy catalyst. Nickel alone should not work as well.
As
It is hard to separate Mills' theory from Holmlid's work. They are likely to
be complementary with both offering important details. One early experiment for
a "critical volume" validation could involve the catalytic propensity of
reactor itself. IOW - a large volume with NO added catalyst
re project (with the Navy) was
"apparently" canceled, despite the energy anomaly.
Probably worth a deeper look...
Bill Antoni wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
One further thought about the Thermacore runaway - is there a potential lesson
there, for experiment design ?
There could be
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