Re: [Vo]:NORWAY SPIRAL a la' Russia: HyperDimensional Torsion Physics-RUSSIA'S TESLA-(Tunguska)-ARRAY: Missile Killer: Hyper-Grav Distortion Wake Missle Interdiction Shield!

2010-09-14 Thread Zachary Jones
Well, that truly was a privilege.   Bon Vivants.  Who's the Top, you  
or Hoagland?


If you talk with him soon, tell him I've still withheld the  
weaponization of Schauberger's vortex gnosis, but I will use it to  
raise the 3rd temple.



;) Cheers mate
Z


On Sep 13, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan wrote:




HyperDimensional Torsion Physics weaponized: Plasma-Breach EM-Toroid  
Reactors 'broadcast' 'Ingress-Hyperdimensional FOCUSED HYPER-GRAV  
TOROID 'frisbee-style.'  This is an Einstein-Rosen portal accessing
parallel-HyperSpace DarkEnergy Hyper-Grav Plasma SPIRALING while  
'weirdly' riding  the Earth-Flux-EM field longitudinal pathways to,  
and then across the N-Pole.  And then GROUNDING or White-Hole- 
Breaching Tunguska style depending upon how much original  
'broadcast' energy is input into the broadcasting Super-Fluid Bose- 
Einstein BAGEL BODY Plasma-Breach Reactor.  THAT IS specifically if  
a A geo-techtonic field LIGHTNING-GROUNDING-STRIKE expands said  
'broadcast-torsion-field-ingressing' EM-toroid which opens it's  
Eintein-Rosen 'eye' to INGRESS WHITE-HOLE status for a split  
instant-hense TUNGUSKA.



*Tesla/Hyperdimensional 'Electro-Plasmic Meteor Missle/Aircraft  
Killer' Technology*




HISTORICALLY: Tesla in fact inadvertantly pioneered  technologies  
giving us the potential to access and exploit---


HyperDimensional Torsion Physics aka AexoHyperSpace Singularity  
Physics* * *TACHYON(speed)-FIELD Parallel AEXO-DarkSpace which could  
just as easily be called  'PARALLEL TACHYON(speed M-Brane-carrier- 
wave) HYPERSPACE'* * *




RUSSIAMISSILE KILLER ELECTRO-PLASMIC METEOR ARRAY:  TESLA  
WEAPONIZED as MISSILE INTERDICTION SCREEN* * * Broadcast Gray-Jet  
pre-Singularity creates Hyper-Gravity Distortion Wake applied as  
Missle Killer Array Screen* * *


!And ONE HELL'UV'A COOL LIGHTSHOW in the night sky over NORWAY!

 NORWAY-SPIRAL NEWS.ru:  Russia's Electro-Plasmic (north-flying)  
'Broadcast/free-atomospheric traveling' Hyper-Grav-Wake Gray-Jet pre- 
Singularity ELECTRO-PLASMIC TOROID Missile interdiction screen  
creates 'weird' Einstein-Rosen SPIRAL HYPERSPACE PLASMA INGRESS  
spiral in the sky over NORWAY/SCANDINAVIA


 THIS RD WINDOW IS FULLY OPENED  OPERATIONAL: 'GET' the significance
of ALL of that follows. This is NOT Science Fiction.

VIA Plasma-Breach TORSION-HYPERSPACE accessing High-Density EM- 
Toroid Reactors GRAY-JET SINGULARITY BREAKTHROUGHS:  Associated  
Hyper-Grav

Field POINT-LEAD propulsion technologies being pioneered by BOEING 
LOCKHEED-MARTIN will initially be installed in prototye within  
'conventional

appearing' craft such as the DREAMLINER  other MILITARY STEALTH
applications. Such craft will GET BETTER  BETTER fuel economy until  
it
becomes obvious that their conventional jet-engines are MERELY  
COSMETIC.


And a particular retired NASA-Avionics engineer recently broadcast  
from Australia
media sources that indeed his surveys of ongoing 'fuel-consumption'  
logs for some
of the here-to-fore relatively 'conventional' stealth aircraft are  
using VIRTUALLY
'NO' FUEL for impossibly LONG  FAST flights about the globe as of  
late.


Check-out JANES INTERNATIONAL articles on new 'Anti-Grav' projects  
underway
by BOEING. The 'Graphite Composite Unibody Fusilage-Skin' WAS  
INTRINSIC to  the original POINT-LEAD Hyper-Grav Lobe Propulsion  
System prototye design  specifications. Jack Harbach~:-)



OF NOTE in the LAST U.S. ADMINISTRATION* VLADIMIR PUTIN  GEORGE  
BUSH THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED THE ON-GOING

DEVELOPMENTS IN THESE TECHNOLOGIES AT THEIR SUMMIT; HENSE PUTIN's
UNDERSTANDABLE PROBLEM WITH GEORGE BUSH's PUTTING 'ELECTRO-PLASMIC- 
METEOR' array

GRAVIONIC-EM WAKE WALLS ACROSS EUROPE . . .

HOWEVER:  Since GWB aquiesced to JOINT-PROJECTING of the Gray-Jet  
Electro-Plasmic Singularity/DarkEnergy accessing
technologies NOW President Obama  the current Russian  
administration with Putin now Prime-Minister are FAST  
FRIENDS(kind've).


NOTABLE: About a decade ago I was involved in a joint project with
counterparts in the Russian Advanced Physics RD community and with  
the

parallel U.S. ADVANCED PROPULSION RESEARCH PROJECT. Out of 'Dark
Energy-PARALLEL AEXO-Darkspace Theories' which dove-tailed nicely  
with some Nikola Tesla
Research was born what we called then Hyperdimensional Torsion-Wave/ 
Aexohyperspace Tachyon(speed) M-Brane super-carrier-wave 'Dark Energy'
PHYSICS and now simply  Hyperdimensional-Torsion-wave-SINGULARITY  
PHYSICS.


RUSSIA HAD MADE GREAT STRIDES indicating that PROTONS are the  
defacto-GRAVITONS as
being MICRO-GRAY-JET-SINGULARITY ATOM-SYSTEMS perennially ATTACHED  
and POWERED
via PARALLEL-AEXO-DarkSpace/Dark-Energy.  IN SHORT:  AEXO-DarkSpace  
is the UBIQUTIOUS
HYPER-ENERGY/HYPER-GRAVITY back of the tapestry, so to speak.   
Russias early success
with SUB-SINGULARITY GYRO-TOROIDAL (Super-fluid/ferro-fluid Bose- 
Einstein bagel-body~;-) Electro-Plasmic/AEXO-DarkSpace-Hyperspace
PLASMA-BREACH 

Re: [Vo]:NORWAY SPIRAL a la' Russia: HyperDimensional Torsion Physics-RUSSIA'S TESLA-(Tunguska)-ARRAY: Missile Killer: Hyper-Grav Distortion Wake Missle Interdiction Shield!

2010-09-14 Thread Zachary Jones
I should write HOAGLAND, because I do enjoy the man, and miss our  
conversations.



On Sep 14, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote:

Zak how can i take you artikkeli when you didnt write a couple of  
words w all-caps?? Disappointed. Next time, type TEMPLE and GNOSIS.


Ps. Anyone else feel the original message and its ilk are  
autogenerated by a keyword-catching software?


iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it.

On 14.9.2010, at 10.13, Zachary Jones z...@newalexandria.org wrote:

Well, that truly was a privilege.   Bon Vivants.  Who's the Top,  
you or Hoagland?


If you talk with him soon, tell him I've still withheld the  
weaponization of Schauberger's vortex gnosis, but I will use it to  
raise the 3rd temple.



;) Cheers mate
Z


On Sep 13, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan wrote:




HyperDimensional Torsion Physics weaponized: Plasma-Breach EM- 
Toroid Reactors 'broadcast' 'Ingress-Hyperdimensional FOCUSED  
HYPER-GRAV TOROID 'frisbee-style.'  This is an Einstein-Rosen  
portal accessing
parallel-HyperSpace DarkEnergy Hyper-Grav Plasma SPIRALING while  
'weirdly' riding  the Earth-Flux-EM field longitudinal pathways  
to, and then across the N-Pole.  And then GROUNDING or White-Hole- 
Breaching Tunguska style depending upon how much original  
'broadcast' energy is input into the broadcasting Super-Fluid Bose- 
Einstein BAGEL BODY Plasma-Breach Reactor.  THAT IS specifically  
if a A geo-techtonic field LIGHTNING-GROUNDING-STRIKE expands said  
'broadcast-torsion-field-ingressing' EM-toroid which opens it's  
Eintein-Rosen 'eye' to INGRESS WHITE-HOLE status for a split  
instant-hense TUNGUSKA.



*Tesla/Hyperdimensional 'Electro-Plasmic Meteor Missle/Aircraft  
Killer' Technology*




HISTORICALLY: Tesla in fact inadvertantly pioneered  technologies  
giving us the potential to access and exploit---


HyperDimensional Torsion Physics aka AexoHyperSpace Singularity  
Physics* * *TACHYON(speed)-FIELD Parallel AEXO-DarkSpace which  
could just as easily be called  'PARALLEL TACHYON(speed M-Brane- 
carrier-wave) HYPERSPACE'* * *




RUSSIAMISSILE KILLER ELECTRO-PLASMIC METEOR ARRAY:  TESLA  
WEAPONIZED as MISSILE INTERDICTION SCREEN* * * Broadcast Gray-Jet  
pre-Singularity creates Hyper-Gravity Distortion Wake applied as  
Missle Killer Array Screen* * *


!And ONE HELL'UV'A COOL LIGHTSHOW in the night sky over NORWAY!

 NORWAY-SPIRAL NEWS.ru:  Russia's Electro-Plasmic (north-flying)  
'Broadcast/free-atomospheric traveling' Hyper-Grav-Wake Gray-Jet  
pre-Singularity ELECTRO-PLASMIC TOROID Missile interdiction screen  
creates 'weird' Einstein-Rosen SPIRAL HYPERSPACE PLASMA INGRESS  
spiral in the sky over NORWAY/SCANDINAVIA


 THIS RD WINDOW IS FULLY OPENED  OPERATIONAL: 'GET' the  
significance

of ALL of that follows. This is NOT Science Fiction.

VIA Plasma-Breach TORSION-HYPERSPACE accessing High-Density EM- 
Toroid Reactors GRAY-JET SINGULARITY BREAKTHROUGHS:  Associated  
Hyper-Grav

Field POINT-LEAD propulsion technologies being pioneered by BOEING 
LOCKHEED-MARTIN will initially be installed in prototye within  
'conventional

appearing' craft such as the DREAMLINER  other MILITARY STEALTH
applications. Such craft will GET BETTER  BETTER fuel economy  
until it
becomes obvious that their conventional jet-engines are MERELY  
COSMETIC.


And a particular retired NASA-Avionics engineer recently broadcast  
from Australia
media sources that indeed his surveys of ongoing 'fuel- 
consumption' logs for some
of the here-to-fore relatively 'conventional' stealth aircraft are  
using VIRTUALLY
'NO' FUEL for impossibly LONG  FAST flights about the globe as of  
late.


Check-out JANES INTERNATIONAL articles on new 'Anti-Grav' projects  
underway
by BOEING. The 'Graphite Composite Unibody Fusilage-Skin' WAS  
INTRINSIC to  the original POINT-LEAD Hyper-Grav Lobe Propulsion  
System prototye design  specifications. Jack Harbach~:-)



OF NOTE in the LAST U.S. ADMINISTRATION* VLADIMIR PUTIN  GEORGE  
BUSH THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED THE ON-GOING

DEVELOPMENTS IN THESE TECHNOLOGIES AT THEIR SUMMIT; HENSE PUTIN's
UNDERSTANDABLE PROBLEM WITH GEORGE BUSH's PUTTING 'ELECTRO-PLASMIC- 
METEOR' array

GRAVIONIC-EM WAKE WALLS ACROSS EUROPE . . .

HOWEVER:  Since GWB aquiesced to JOINT-PROJECTING of the Gray-Jet  
Electro-Plasmic Singularity/DarkEnergy accessing
technologies NOW President Obama  the current Russian  
administration with Putin now Prime-Minister are FAST  
FRIENDS(kind've).


NOTABLE: About a decade ago I was involved in a joint project with
counterparts in the Russian Advanced Physics RD community and  
with the

parallel U.S. ADVANCED PROPULSION RESEARCH PROJECT. Out of 'Dark
Energy-PARALLEL AEXO-Darkspace Theories' which dove-tailed nicely  
with some Nikola Tesla
Research was born what we called then Hyperdimensional Torsion- 
Wave/Aexohyperspace Tachyon(speed) M-Brane super-carrier-wave  
'Dark Energy'
PHYSICS and now simply  Hyperdimensional-Torsion-wave-SINGULARITY

[Vo]:River on the ocean bottom spins the other way

2010-08-02 Thread Zachary Jones

For those interested in Schauberger ideas, and oceanic conveyors:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/7920006/Undersea-river-discovered-flowing-on-sea-bed.html

The key difference we found from terrestrial rivers was that as the  
flow goes round the bend, the water spirals in the opposite way to  
rivers on land.



Zak



Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [Xtratech] SECRETS CONFERENCE November 20-21

2009-11-12 Thread Zachary Jones

I live in Tempe if anyone will be in town for the speakers.

Zak


On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:




-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Elswick st...@teslatech.info
Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:55 AM
Subject: [Xtratech] SECRETS CONFERENCE November 20-21
To: xtrat...@teslatech.info


Renewable Energies Experts Converge on Tempe November 20 - 23



Alternative, sustainable energies experts Thomas Valone, Ph.D.,  
Steven Greer, M.D., and Jeane Manning are featured speakers at  
Secrets! The Energies  Harmonics Revolution Conference, meeting at  
the Tempe Embassy Suites Hotel, November 20-23, 2009.   Sound and  
harmonics researchers Jonathan Goldman and Ani Williams, along with  
film-maker, David Wilcock will also speak.  This weekend event, open  
to the public, marks the eighth annual gathering in Tempe of cutting- 
edge thinkers on a variety of controversial, alternative subjects,  
brought together every November by Sedona therapist, Chet Snow,  
Ph.D.  Details and the weekend program are available on Snow’s web s 
ite: www.chetsnow.com.   Today’s energy crisis makes this a timely o 
pportunity to hear several experts’ opinions and proposed solutions, 
 all in one Valley setting.




Thomas F. Valone, PhD, PE, physicist and licensed professional  
engineer with 30 years professional experience, is a patent  
examiner, research engineer, instrumentation designer and also an  
author, lecturer, and consultant on future energy developments. He  
is President and founder of Integrity Research Institute and  
formerly a community college teacher and a Research Director for  
Scott Aviation-ATO, Inc. He is the author of Zero Point Energy: The  
Fuel of the Future; Practical Conversion of Zero-Point Energy;  
Bioelectromagnetic Healing; Bush-Cheney Energy Study, Clinton  
Administration Energy Study and about 100 published reports and  
articles. Dr. Valone has appeared on CNN, AE, and the Discovery  
Channels.  An engaging speaker and tireless researcher, Valone will  
present his latest findings concerning future energy technologies on  
Saturday afternoon and in a research workshop Sunday morning.




Dr. Steven Greer, former chairman of the Department of Emergency  
Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in North Carolina, is the  
founder and director of the Disclosure Project.   In 2001, Greer  
presided over a Disclosure Project press conference from the  
National Press Club in Washington, DC. where two dozen military,  
government, intelligence, and corporate witnesses presented  
compelling testimony regarding the existence of extraterrestrial  
life forms visiting this planet, and demonstrating the reverse  
engineering of the energy and propulsion systems of their  
spacecraft.   Dr. Greer also supervises a world-wide search for new,  
alternative energy sources, specifically those known as zero-point  
or over-unity devices with the plan to identify and develop systems  
which will eliminate the need for fossil fuels.


On Saturday evening, Dr. Greer will speak about his latest book:   
Hidden Truth – Forbidden Knowledge that relates his personal experie 
nces with extraterrestrials since childhood - from his sighting of a 
 UFO at an early age, to his amazing near-death experience at age 17 
 to his meetings with a CIA Director, US Senators, heads of state an 
d royalty.   Greer will focus on how new alternative energy sources  
from human and ET contacts could revolutionize humanity’s future, if 
 widely developed.   In addition to his Saturday evening lecture, Dr 
. Greer will give a special workshop on Sunday evening.


Having interviewed hundreds of inventors, scientists  alternative  
philosophers, gleaning insiders’ insights, Canadian author, Jeane Ma 
nning reveals patterns behind the new energy politics - the good rac 
ing against the dark - in her most recent book, Breakthrough Power.  
 Manning will illustrate her Saturday afternoon lecture with visuals 
 of new inventions and their creators, presenting the “Big Picture”  
behind today’s energy revolution and what it means for the public.




Going beyond alternative solutions to today’s energy crisis, next mo 
nth’s Secrets! Conference also features two of America’s foremost so 
und and harmonics researchers and healers: Colorado’s Jonathan Goldm 
an and Ani Williams of Sedona.   Goldman is an authority on sound he 
aling and a pioneer in the field of harmonics. He has authored Heali 
ng Sounds:  the Power of Harmonics, The Lost Chord and Tantra of Sou 
nd.  Jonathan is the director of the Sound Healers Association; dedi 
cated to the education and awareness of sound and music for healing. 
 He is also president of Spirit Music, which produces music for medi 
tation, relaxation and self-transformation.  In Tempe, Goldman will  
offer Friday evening’s keynote lecture and a special 3-hour Sound He 
aling Institute on Monday.   Sedona-based harpist and vocalist Ani W 
illiams will 

[Vo]:toroid hho

2009-03-26 Thread Zachary Jones

nice show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRz0a2qiCtcfeature=channel_page



Re: [Vo]:the Bell

2008-12-21 Thread Zachary Jones
It should, so long as the light is emitted via small arcing from an  
interface. It's interesting that mercury does it - anyone know why  
offhand? Impurities creating a loose liquid crystal?



Zak


On Dec 21, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Harry Veeder hvee...@ncf.ca wrote:



Peeling scotch tape emits a faint blue light. As was demonstrated
recently, when the tape is peeled in a vacuum it also produces x-rays,
so I wonder if the shaking of mercury can produce x-rays as well.
Harry

- Original Message -
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:21 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:the Bell


Mercury does emit blue light when agitated (tribolumenscence?).
It's easy
to see just by shaking a test tube with some in it.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona

-Original Message-
From: j...@mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com
[mailto:j...@mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com]on Behalf Of Taylor J.
SmithSent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:30 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:the Bell



Hi All,  12-21-08

Right now I'm reading The Rise of the Fourth Reich
by Jim Marrs; and I've run across something that may be
of interest starting on page 76: The Wenzeslaus Mine [was]
located about 215 miles west of Warsaw in Lower Silesia ...
[It was] used in connection with the strange experiments
described to his captors by SS officer Sporrenberg.
These experiments centered around ... the Bell ...

During operation ... two contra-rotating cylinders filled
with a mercury-like ... substance spun a vortex of energy
which emitted a strange phosphorescent blue light and made
such a buzzing sound that operators nicknamed it the ...
beehive ...

To try to understand the purpose of the Bell requires a
brief side trip into the world of ... Zero Point Energy.

Jack Smith

(As a side note,
see http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html

``Clarence Dillon of Dillon Read, set up the German
Steel Trust with Thyssen  partner, Fredrick Flick ...
[George Herbert] Walker, {Prescott] Bush and [Averell]
Harriman owned a third of Flick's holding company [Silesian
Holding Co.] and called their share Consolidated Silesian
Steel Corporation ...

Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation was located near
the Polish town of Oswiecim. When the plan to use Soviet
prisoners as forced labor fell through, the Nazis began
shipping Jews, communists, gypsies and other minority
populations to the camp the Nazis had set up. This was
the beginning of Auschwitz.'')









Re: [Vo]:NASA

2008-12-09 Thread Zachary Jones
The shape-power material has significance, I thought. Did anybody take  
note of the helical energy structure at the top of the pyramid that  
was pictured therein?  Or more importantly, know of it's origins. I've  
documented this in fluids, so the field sturcture will be of specific  
use


Zak




On Dec 9, 2008, at 4:56 PM, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In reply to  thomas malloy's message of Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:30:31  
-0600 (CST):

Hi,
[snip]

answer. It isn't that they can't hit the floor with their hat,  
their agenda is to miss it.



[snip]
Well of course it is. At least one aspect of there function in life  
is to be a
deliberate sideshow. A form of circuses for the masses. If they  
were serious
about space travel they would be using antigravity technology, but  
then they
would have to admit that the aliens won't let us go into space  
because we are a

bunch of vicious savages.
If you think I am judging humanity harshly, then just read the news  
paper.


No, I think that you are being too kind. We are a bunch of moral  
degenerates armed with H bombs.


With regards to A G technology. I posted about Davidson's Shape  
Power books. I mentioned the work of Grebennikov. The Vortexians  
were conspicuous by their absence of comment on the matter. Ditto  
for the webmaster of American Antigravity.



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Re: [Vo]:'Super atoms'

2008-07-08 Thread Zachary Jones
You're quite right; it was actually rather silly of me to not mention  
the ORMUS work when I posted this.  I had emailed Barry Carter just  
before the list to see where he would weigh in on this work, though  
have yet to hear back from him.


I hadn't thought about the use of metal in terms of conduction; I had  
the sense it had more to do with the sheer number of electron energies.


I like some of Jones' observations.



Zak


On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:57 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:

In reply to  Zachary Jones's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:01  
-0700:

Hi,
[snip]

Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily-
produceable atom clusters:

http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html

They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the
electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article.


This may explain something else - the whitegold story. Purported  
among other
things to be superconducting at room temperature. Some of these  
atoms are

going to get pretty heavy. Also the Russian results from
http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html might actually contain at  
least some
superatom substances (especially those they claim are far heavier  
than
Uranium). It would not be unreasonable to get such atoms when matter  
is
bombarded with high energy electrons, which could easily produce  
lots of
individual atoms that then may condense into clusters mimicking  
other elements.
Furthermore, they used metals as targets, and this current work  
seems to imply

that conductors are a prerequisite.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[Vo]:'Super atoms'

2008-07-07 Thread Zachary Jones
Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily- 
produceable atom clusters:


http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html

They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the  
electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article.


Zak




[Vo]:something from the big guy

2007-07-27 Thread Zachary Jones
Recapitulating: we may say that according to the general theory of  
relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense,  
therefore, there exists Aether.

 -Albert Einstein, 1920



Re: [VO]: Hyd-gen tubes

2007-07-22 Thread Zachary Jones


On Jul 21, 2007, at 7:28 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote:

Interesting arrangement and diameter of tubes he has used . He must  
have spent some time in trial and error in sizing the diameter of  
the tubes to achieve the effect by using a rotary pulse voltage  
frequency generator..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO15VGtKZo0NR=1

Richard


I'd wondered this myself.  Puharich alludes to that there is a trial- 
and-error sizing process.


http://www.rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm

It is my expectation that the size and frequency would have to be  
very well-matched to get an effect.   But the heuristic method of  
discovery here suggests that the tube size is less important than the  
frequency - the latter of which is also more easily variable.  I  
leads me to think in the direction that some manner of resonance is  
occurring, and that resonance has in it the effect of splitting the  
water.



Zak

Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water

2007-07-20 Thread Zachary Jones

thanks for the reminders;  I'll sleep on it

Z


On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:56 PM, leaking pen wrote:


the expansion is due to crystal lattice forming, and many compounds
exhibit it in different ranges, just not many that are that simple.
the energy of compression, to a point, can actually go towards helping
teh phase change, as i recall, but during that phase change, temp isnt
going to change until its complete, one way or another, right?

On 7/19/07, David Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since water has a negative thermal expansion coefficient in the  
region
from 0-4 degrees Celsius one can wonder what happens if water in  
these

conditions is compressed. Will it cool down? Where is the internal
energy going? This is contrary to common understanding of physics.

David





--
That which yields isn't always weak.





Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water

2007-07-19 Thread Zachary Jones
I've wondered this, too.  I was illumined to consider a paper on  
sonomagnetism, a phenomena seen in the boundary layer of the oceanic  
thermocline.  The motion of electrolytic fluid carries and  
electromotive force that generates photonic emissions (presumably  
which were being confusing the interpretation of submarine  
transmissions).  I think it's another entry in the library of radiant  
transduction to coherent energy.


To hypothesize on your question, if you compressed water near it's  
triple point I think you'd see a quantized heat dissipation curve in  
sync with photonic emissions in directions characterized by [some  
kind of dissipation-turbulence function]



Zak


On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:49 AM, David Jonsson wrote:


Since water has a negative thermal expansion coefficient in the region
from 0-4 degrees Celsius one can wonder what happens if water in these
conditions is compressed. Will it cool down? Where is the internal
energy going? This is contrary to common understanding of physics.

David





Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn

2007-07-17 Thread Zachary Jones
I'll make an admittedly off-topic statement when I say that, as with  
your need to label Marissa a little girl, you seem to have been  
rabble-rousing.  (you even went out of your way, because the  
alliteration of Little's little is just terrible)  Perhaps we can  
keep this on-topic by noting that you actions may have had more  
impact had they been more professionally courteous.




On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:


I identified one of the scientists as Scott Little's little girl,
Marissa.  Some igit who thinks he's protecting some secret banned me
for commenting on the fact that one can discern interesting facts from
those threads deleted and people banned.

I was instantly reinstated; so, it was a ego trip by the administrator
named magnatrix.

BTW, the bloggers caught it:

http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/

Such silliness!

Terry

On 7/15/07, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Terry,

What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I  
missed it.


thx

s


Subject:re; Banned
Hi Terry
I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you
need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is
moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work  grief for the
admins.
Please don't being up issues regarding moderation (  how it was  
done)

Thank you for your consideration

I will now re-instate you.
 mags 


On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa:

http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm

I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much
information simply by the threads which they deleted.

Something smells in Ireland.

Terry










Re: [Vo]:Why isn't this creating a stir?

2007-07-06 Thread Zachary Jones

Vorts,

Setting aside that the video that started this thread doesn't look  
setup (able?) to do Over Unity - are [some] magnet motors designs an  
illusory OU, because of the energy needed to create the magnet?


To make sure I'm saying that intelligibly: does the energy needed to  
create a strong magnet exceed the amount of OU energy that comes  
back, i.e. from a Bedini design, etc?  Bedini's designs are  
interesting to me because of the proposed coupling between chemical  
and ~magnetic operation  -  though, I still don't know enough about  
my above question to ground my sense of the Bedini matter.



thanks
Zak

On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:42 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote:


R.C.Macaulay wrote:

Paul wrote,,
It sounds like it could be accelerated-- not sure. I'd be  
surprised if just anyone could build such a machine using any  
type of PM and expect free energy. After glancing at some  
Perendev motor designs seemed clear it used the same

Howdy Paul,
It sounds like... I liked the sound effects too. Varoom!,



IOW, I do not have time to analyze the machines rpm.





[Vo]:We are the Aliens

2007-06-25 Thread Zachary Jones

Vs,

Hope this isn't considered to be to off-topic, but with our lists  
connection to antigrav tech I thought this piece would offer nice  
perspective to the sibling-discussion of alien life.  This is,  
really, a tasty morsel of a read.  I really think it put into  
perspective some of the subconscious expressions of humanity.


http://viewzone.com/milkyway.html

Zak



Re: [Vo]:Sprite Vortex

2007-06-23 Thread Zachary Jones
Nice, Terry, thanks.  I've enjoyed the growing data in this area of  
phenomena.  I'm looking forward to seeing how this will tie in with  
the gamma ray bursts that have also been recorded from storms.  It  
seems obvious (now) that the high current of the bolt discharge would  
create a strong acceleration field.  A more explicitly modeled  
mechanism will be exciting.



Zak


On Jun 23, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:


Do you see a vort?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/06/070619-sprites.html

Terry





Re: [Vo]:Rife technology revisited?

2007-06-01 Thread Zachary Jones
Thanks for the references, all.  Richard, enjoyed seeing the  
reporting on John's work.


Zak


On May 31, 2007, at 9:25 PM, Ron Wormus wrote:


Jones,
I still keep up with Vo though I don't post very often. I have  
spent quite a lot of time  effort experimenting with the RIFE  
effect over the last few years  come to the conclusion that there  
are real  verifiable biological effects from RF modulated plasmas.  
However, like LENR, replication is difficult  there is currently  
no good theory on how these low power long wave length (audio to  
~100kHZ) modulated plasmas can selectively effect different organisms.


The field is, pardon the pun, RIFE with lots of BS  claptrap,  
which tends to obscure the good work that is being done by a few  
researchers.

Ron

--On Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:54 PM -0700 Jones Beene  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Zac might want write to former Vo - Ron Wormus - who may still be
tuned-in on occassion.

Ron is/was very knowledgeable on the electronic aspects of this
technology - at least insofar as testing the tubes with various gas
fills under RF stimulation - he was more into looking for hydrino
effects, but is probably conversant with the medical aspects.




R.C.Macaulay wrote:

http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=35660bw

Howdy Zac,

Another link

Richard














[Vo]:Rife technology revisited?

2007-05-30 Thread Zachary Jones
I'm not a big Rife-head - perhaps someone here can offer perspective  
about whether this recent journal article is essentially confirming  
Rife / radionic methods.


http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/64/9/3288

Specifies a method for destroying brain cancer tumors using AC fields  
in the sub-1kHz range




Zak



Re: [Vo]: Water vortex footage

2007-04-16 Thread Zachary Jones


On Apr 16, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:

anyone had any luck hunting down a di gital version of the pöpel  
report?


(Pöpel, Franz Rapport  Berich über die Voruntersuchnungen mit  
Wendelrohren mit verschniedener Wandform International Report,  
Institut für Gesundheitstechnik, Institute of Technology in  
Stuttgart, 1952.




I spent a while, and pestered many a librarian - some of whom for  
which English was not their first language.  Two people searching the  
university of Stuttgart could not find it, and offered that it may  
have been lost.  I've wondered if Callum Coats has an original,  
though I seem to remember discussing the matter with Curt Halberg and  
he offering that a copy wasn't in Coat's possession.  I never  
received word from Jorg Schauberger.  I would try him if I were to  
again be looking.


Sadly, it didn't seem too unreasonable that a library would loose a  
copy of an old technical report, unpublished by formal journals.   
Still, it would be a notable loss in this case.  Someone today will  
have to reproduce the work!



Zak



Re: [Vo]: ORMES questions

2007-04-02 Thread Zachary Jones

Know who at U of M?

Zak


On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:32 AM, thomas malloy wrote:

I had a serendipitous event last Thursday night. I met this Chem E.  
He was talking about remediating the waste out of a nickle mine.  I  
mentioned ghost gold, he replied, ORMES. I mentioned Joe Champion's  
theories, he mentioned LENR. He knows about BLP too. I wanted to  
discuss the matter further, but he has a commitment to his  
partners. He did mention a theory of everything. I searched it, as  
far as I can tell, it applies to particle physics. He said that a  
researcher at the U of M is working on it.




[Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone

2007-03-19 Thread Zachary Jones


On Mar 18, 2007, at 5:13 AM, R.C.Macaulay wrote:

Last year we tested a high speed water vortex inducer that produced  
a near perfect cylinder shaped vortex. This shape differs from a  
parabolic tornado shape we are all familar with. The cylinder  
shape has an eyewall like a hurricane. This cylinder shape  
permits a better examination of free electrons and a host of  
rabbit holes one can travel and become mis-directed.




Richard,

Any interesting observations?


Zak



Re: [Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone

2007-03-18 Thread Zachary Jones
I built a trap version, and spent time looking at several  
demonstrated and proposed trap configurations (along with a host of  
testimonials from users).  In the end, building a magnetic trap was  
the most satisfying route for me.  The material that it collected was  
quite interesting, for a qualitative point of view.  THe effect was  
more minimal that I would have wanted, which I felt stemmed from  
design - but it was 'attractive'.  It has a very penetrating feeling  
to the skin that was a preferable experience.  I would say that oral  
consumption of the liquid offered not much greater effect.


Like I said, in the end I felt that the design itself was massively  
inefficient; and as well I didn't like the concept of taking lots of  
'good' water and stripping the ORMEs from it for my own benefit -  
then dumping it back into the environment.  Conceptually, it was a  
kind of sewage - but one that I didn't know how to 'compost' it so  
that nature would re-imbue it with ORMEs.  Barring a vortex-based  
magnetic / mechanical separation design, the chemistry and ozonation  
methods are far more attractive to me.




Zak


On Mar 17, 2007, at 7:51 PM, thomas malloy wrote:


Zachary Jones wrote:

Funny that ORMUS comes up here - a nice emergence.  I worked with   
Barry a while ago; even pitched the ozonation tech he is  
connected  with at a DOE shindig in 2001.  I have a giant poster  
session in a  closet somewheres.  Seems like an age ago.


Interesting post Zachary. I have posted Barry's website on this  
list in the past. He was doing an emailing list. There were some  
people locally who had purchased his traps and were collecting the  
material in question, ORMES. I haven't heard from him, or them  
lately, are the traps still available? I assume that you've  
purchased one of the traps? OTOH, I know what happens when you  
assume. Did you collect any of the ORMES material? Did you test it?  
Did you ingest it? Did it affect your health?



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Re: [Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone

2007-03-18 Thread Zachary Jones


On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

Well - the Ormus stuff and David Hudson, in particular, have been  
mentioned many times in the (far) past on vortex. Some of that


Yea, I vaguely remember.  A little secret; I transitioned to Vortex-L  
from Skeptics-L (was that what it was called?) around 1995.  I thinks  
that about when it got going.  I keep up intermittently.



The exciton changes everything, and together with QM and the quasi- 
BEC (i.e. RTT BEC or room temperature transitory Bose Einstein  
Condensate) may end up validating parts of the Ormus concept - (and  
parts of LENR as well) who knows?


I rarely am on the deep edge of particle physics, so thanks for these  
new leads.


BTW - the Wiki entry on this subject (exciton) is woefully  
inadequate and misses much of the latest RD which is largely being  
performed by such heavyweights as Intel, AMD and IBM-Almaden but  
with little in the way of published results. If not for my personal  
proximity to this area and having an associates who is at least  
tangentially involved with this RD, it would be largely hidden  
from view.


I'd love to hear a story or two, if you would / can.  It'd be a great  
kick-start to more digging.


Did you hear about the recent assert of a 'new state of matter'?
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-03/ns-hrf031407.php

I talks about entangled electron fractional-spins.  It's fun for me,  
because in my ignorant ideating ~1yr ago it occurred to me that we  
may be about to realize a 5th state of matter (5th world, to quote  
the indigenous) that would be manifest of synchronization /  
entanglement.  I wondered if ORME stuff may be related to this 'new'  
state of matter, but my models aren't sufficient yet.



Zak




Re: [Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone

2007-03-17 Thread Zachary Jones
Funny that ORMUS comes up here - a nice emergence.  I worked with  
Barry a while ago; even pitched the ozonation tech he is connected  
with at a DOE shindig in 2001.  I have a giant poster session in a  
closet somewheres.  Seems like an age ago.


Even back then they were pretty hush-hush about the exact nature of  
the tech.  If we reminisced long enough, and I dug deep enough, I  
could probably turn up notes or such from my conversations with him.   
Intuition tells me, though, that not enough info was named to  
reproduce a mechanism (why, anyway?  if there's value here then, all  
parties interested in the best for things, should be able to  
cooperate)  They were on the down-low about it because it had  
produced the first ORMUS-like material, but because of a lack of  
controls had also poisoned one of the inventors.  Barry's bio talks  
about it a bit, here:  http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/tw/ 
barrybio.htm  (maybe this is not news, here)



These are definitely the wilds of new science.  People are being  
affected in dramatic ways, and none of it is turning into formatted  
science, yet.  C.F. this statement: We believe that our ozone  
generator is producing significant amounts of O6 or diozone.  I love  
this community, and statements like this drive me nuts.  If  
quantities of O6 are getting produced, and it's such a unique and  
interesting substance, then there are ways to make happen known- 
reliable test for O6 levels.





Zak




On Mar 16, 2007, at 6:03 AM, R.C.Macaulay wrote:


Howdy Jones,

You amaze me with your ability to stretch the elastic of the  
mind.   One must eat a heartly breakfast and tighten the safety  
belt before launching into one of your posts grin that can range  
from rail guns to Ormus... and that is a stretch.


Now that light has been accepted as having particle or weight,  
it can be taken to the next step and think of light having  
projectile force qualities. A rail gun projectile would not  
necessarily require a socalled mass ( I have always been abhorred  
by the term mass). A better constructed railgun would fire a   
projectile of light... hmmm.. a strange beasty indeed.. Why so ?
Because the projectile could be  tuned to either/or focus or  
impact. Strange account of a battle predicted centuries ago where  
the flesh,eyes and tongue will rot while they are still standing   
( bones remain) Zec: 14. This description seeems to indicate a type  
of a ray gun, however, the projectile does not knock the person off  
their feet.. only  dissolves the flesh.


You referred to Barry Carter's Subtleenergy website that mentions a  
new method of producing O3 and O6 but does not describe the  
process. He does describe the healing qualities of vortex induced  
ormus water. Reminds me of the account of the angel that would  
stir or trouble the waters in the pool. Whoever would be the  
first sick person to enter the pool thereafter would be healed.  If  
the stirring means inducing a water vortex and only the first  
person would be healed, could this mean the vortex was destroyed by  
entering the pool and the residual remains of the vortex properties  
dissappear?


Out in the wildwood behind the Dime Box Saloon lurks an old whisky  
still left over from the old days. The tale goes that sippin some  
that  thinkin drinkin stuff could make a person believe the earth  
was flat.


Richard




Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation

2007-03-16 Thread Zachary Jones
If I had time now, or resources, to contact them in the interest of
mutually beneficial work, such would inevitably be part of my
communication.  Good work would be done given support to facilitate it.

Zak

On 3/15/2007, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Howdy Zac,

The links you gave for Texas AM research in two phase separation shows that
Aggies are beginning to learn how to attract research money... err.. well..
maybe after they learn how to spell  seperate grin.
  I don't know any of these guys but if you do, you may mention they can
contact me regarding their water in space recovery system . They will need
to add shapes inside the cyclone separator to produce  sympathetic
vortexes to position the gas and solids for extraction in a zero grav
regime.
Suspect the project they are working on is mostly for a search for the next
funding stage. Have to remember how NASA has morphed .

Richard





Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation

2007-03-15 Thread Zachary Jones
On 3/15/2007, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Zachary Wrote..

Have you ever talked with any of the TExas AM boys working on NASA's
vortex phase separator?

No I have not. Tell me something about it or the people involved.



The project director is Fred Best, who is a nuclear engineer with a focus
in multi-phase flows.

http://nuclear.tamu.edu/home/people/faculty/best/index.php

Their work is with a a cylinder that injects a moist vapor / liquid froma
 tangent and sucks it out a port in the botom-center of the cylinder.  A
vortex flow forms in the process and they study it to understand phase
transport effects (how stuff separates) in Zero-G.  The system
particularly focuses on liquid / gas separations.  It system is on track
for integration into NASA's Immobilized Microbe Microgravity Water
Processing System (IMMWPS), for sustained living in space.  It only
works in microgravity

Most of their work was done aboard parabolic trajectory planes.  The work
was done through his Interphase Transport Phenomena Laboratory

http://itp.tamu.edu/

The only papers put out are from the ITP lab manager, Cable Kurwitz.  I
get the impression that the work they did was 'frozen' so it could
enter NASA's pipeline to get flown.  I've never spoken with Best or
Kurwitz, though, so I can't comment on whether they've stalled
recently, or are just in a holding pattern.  Best also launched the
Center for Space Power, which does a bunch of corporate stuff

http://engineer.tamu.edu/tees/csp/index.html

If I had to wager somewhere, I'd say Best's recent time in this area
has been spent working with industry - even beyond the CSP






thanks for the EDAV link, it's cute.

Kim's EDAV  has some ideas.. not to be discounted.. he has some people that
he claims has a working Implosion device.. he's been working on it long
enough but health has sidetracked him.


Hopefully he'll make more strides.  What kind of 'implosion device'? 
That has been used to name a range of mechanisms.



Zak



Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation

2007-03-14 Thread Zachary Jones
The original version of this mail got lost a few days ago. (I tried to
attach the PDFs)  Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy
library:

http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip

Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to
pull out something useful from them.  I only searched Elsevier briefly,
there are more extensive chem databases


Zak


On 3/12/2007, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


- Original Message - 
From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation


 We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the 
 1000PPD and above range.
 
 What's a PPD?  
  Ozone gas is measured in pounds per day .. PPD
 
 Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual 
 properties are
 extremely short lived and it is deadly.
 
 Not deadly (I read somewhere that no casualty has ever been attributed to 
 ozone), but it's very painful if you inhale too much of it, very much like 
 inhaling bleach, no wonder it has a similar effect on microorganisms.

Very deadly.. a extreme oxidant.
 
 How is the ozone laden air pressurized in the industrial units you're using, 
 air pump upstream of the ozone generation I imagine? And what's the 
 operating principle of the O3 generator itself, is it the AC operated glass 
 tube type?

The incoming air is compressed, chilled and dried. The air enters the electric 
arc chambers 8 diameter pipe runs( depending on type) and mixed into the main 
process water . The air handling systems can be pressured or vacuum.

 
 Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a 
 grease to slide the O3
 into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 
 may not be O6.. hmmm.
 But if it is.. and it can be borrowed while it's extremely short life is 
 around to argue the point..
 it may be possible to  fold the two into water before O6 catches on .. by 
 using a form of velocity
 shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped 
 knife.
 
 I doubt this makes the slightest sense to anyone except perhaps yourself, 
 but hey this is Vortex :)


Hey ! You're not in Kindergarten.. Vortex is for people with some elastic 
 in their minds. 

 We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 
 alone doesn't want to play
 fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual 
 water process stream and have
 the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our 
 Gasmastrrr units returned for
 service that have the UHMW rotating member
 
 What's this, your tank-bottom ozonized air bubbler?

  See .. www.gasmastrrr.comThe gas is discharged into large mixing tanks 
 filled with water. The off-gas ozone that fails to mix is either recycled or 
 is destroyed so Michel doesn't learn the hard way that the stuff can kill ya.

 
 shot with electro-chem pitting
 
 Chem pitting more likely. I guess you mean electro-chem like pitting?

 Electro-chem pitting description covers a range.. strange to see the 
 results.. if you ever saw the results of propeller or pump impeller 
 cavitation you would understand.
 
 that is a form of  SL cavitation.
 
 What's this ?
   Here goes sonolumeniscense.. long for SL.. 
 
 Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene does not pit.. we all know that.
 
 Very few materials are ozone resistant Richard. Have you checked the ozone 
 resistance of this particular PE?

Re-check you data.. excellent resistance to O3 at below 120 degrees.. 
 maybe some swelling at 140 degrees.

 Also some materials catalyze ozone destruction (reversal to O2), such 
 materials in your ozonized air circuit would result in not much ozone 
 reaching the water you want to treat.
 
 Michel
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:25 AM
 Subject: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
 
 
 Blank
 Michael wrote..
 
Are you into the design of an ozonizer Richard?
 
 Zachary wrote..
Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a
 commercial ozone unit won't provide?
 
 
 We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the 
 1000PPD and above range. The problems, the maintenance and the trouble 
 mixing ozone beg for better technology.  It seems that microwave may have 
 some application considering the huge transformer banks required to boost 
 voltage for the present technology, plus the problems with drying the air or 
 the dangers of using pure oxy. Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists 
 mixing with water, the residual properties are extremely short lived and it 
 is deadly. Takes the finger nail polish off my nails grin
 
 Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a 
 

Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation

2007-03-14 Thread Zachary Jones
Richard,

In case you missed it, the one paper dealt with aspects of O6 structure
and formation that seemed somewhat independent of environment.

Admittedly, the papers are tiny pieces of the bigger puzzle...


Have you ever talked with any of the TExas AM boy working on NASA's
vortex phase separator?


thanks for the EDAV link, it's cute.
Zak



On 3/15/2007, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zac wrote..

Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy
library:

http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip

Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to
pull out something useful from them.  I only searched Elsevier briefly,
there are more extensive chem databases


Thanks Zac,
 This paper resulted from a research grant by the Air Force and a China
University and relates to SO2 high altitude air quality particulates
involving S6 and inversely to O6. Their work is centered on air pollution
whereas our work is in disinfection of water using mixed oxidants including
O3.
 Fortunately, Dime Box Texas lost out some years ago to College Station
Texas ( Texas AM) so seldom is heard a discouraging word  except for the
occasional broken mirror in the saloon when some  drunk starts discussing
politics.

Richard





[Vo]: Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation

2007-03-11 Thread Zachary Jones
Both studies sent deal with ozone production in a controlled air space,
then extrapolate it to the upper atmosphere.  Many commercial ozone
producers for water purification feed the produced gased through the
water in a way that encourages mixing.


Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a
commercial ozone unit won't provide?

Zak



Re: [Vo]: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation

2007-03-10 Thread Zachary Jones
http://www.springerlink.com/content/l36272x3106h58p5/
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991SvJPP..17.1159S


On 3/11/2007, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BlankHowdy Vorts,

I cannot find the source, but I recall reading somewhere that experiments 
using microwave have produced ozone gas and isotopes of Oxygen up to O7. 
Anyone know about such a process ?





Re: Organic Electricity

2005-12-21 Thread Zachary Jones
Reading this and similar reports, I get the same feeling I did when I first was
exposed to Reich's work.  The feeling has been the same every time I've seen
work in this vein:

What is the characteristic of impact that will occur to the ecosystem?

If we are drawing electricity / energy that is being brought about via the
ecosystem, then what how will drawing that potential off impact it?  it seems
like it will be a lower-profile impact that will thus occur over a longer
space of time.  This could minimize impact, though make measuring footprint
more difficult.  

It would be nice to think that this perspective would invigorate a new direction
of systems reserach and make us more conscious of the way things work.  The
unfortunate alternative is that we arrive at another critical limit as we are
now with coal pollution - with people outraged at the energetic vampirism that
we would then be wreaking upon the planet.  


other perspectives?

Zak



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Re: ERWIN Rommel

2005-10-18 Thread Zachary Jones
Quoting Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[snip]
 Virginia . . . Sometimes there is only a paper-thin difference between a 
 hero and a villain.
 
 - Jed
 

I suppose Rommel, Eisenhower and Lee all are excellent examples of the principle
of:

General Relativity



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DHO quantities in atmosphere

2005-09-15 Thread Zachary Jones
A recent news article on neutron emissions from lightning, and  
deuterium in the atmosphere.  Thought some here would be interested.


http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2005/9/13/132425/338


Z

On Sep 15, 2005, at 9:16 AM, RC Macaulay wrote:


Michael,

Some time back our company worked up a series of schematics for a  
presentation on proposed solar hot plates that could be used in  
3rd world countries for a  combo cooking and distilling water.   
The idea is actually a takeoff of a  Mr. Coffee type electric  
perculator. The setup included a solar collector, a ceramic  
hotplate fixed in a salt eutectic bed ,a steam still ,a non  
potable water tank and a potable water tank. The whole unit  
portable that unfolds from a suitcase type  container. Some 3rd  
world countries have depleted thier source of firewood and/ or lack  
potable water supplies. We were working with a world missions  
program group that forecast a demand in the millions of units  
provided the cost could be below $ 50.00 US.
The whole project got sidelined while trying to locate a source of  
inexpensive  fresnel lense materials.


Bingo !! up step Michael.

I have a full time research project going at present but if you are  
interested I can fax you the schematics and put you in touch with  
the interested parties, They operates similar to the Livingwaters  
charitable waterwell drilling  people  in Africa and remote areas  
on earth.


Richard