Re: [Vo]:An AI Creation of Dune Images

2023-04-30 Thread H L V
Fire is beautiful and powerful but it is also dangerous. Fire seems to be alive. AI is like a new fire. I worry about naive people or pyros setting cognitive fires. We will need trained artists who understand how this new fire works on the mind. Harry On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:21 PM Terry

Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!

2023-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Indeed. And when they become self aware they have the option of identifying differently 藍 On Sun, Apr 30, 2023, 3:23 PM H L V wrote: > Why do you refer to the ChatGPT as a "she"? > Does this chatbot come with a gender setting so that it responds textually > like a female? > > harry > > On

Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!

2023-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
H L V wrote: Why do you refer to the ChatGPT as a "she"? > My reasons are politically incorrect, so I better not say them. They are here: https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6953-the-lenr-canr-chatgpt-is-on-line/?postID=195136#post195136 Does this chatbot come with a gender setting so

Re: [Vo]:An AI Creation of Dune Images

2023-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Consider these are nascent programs. On Sun, Apr 30, 2023, 4:13 PM H L V wrote: > Amazing ...but also read this exchange between the commenter Sprawl and > the artists KromAI which was posted below the video. > Harry > > The Sprawl > 10 days > Honestly, watching this video felt like a truly

Re: [Vo]:An AI Creation of Dune Images

2023-04-30 Thread H L V
Amazing ...but also read this exchange between the commenter Sprawl and the artists KromAI which was posted below the video. Harry The Sprawl 10 days Honestly, watching this video felt like a truly seismic moment for me. It made me realise something profound that I hadn't really realised before.

Re: [Vo]:An AI Creation of Dune Images

2023-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
*I am vastly less concerned about artificial intelligence than I am about human stupidity.* *Lauren Weinstein * On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 3:45 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > In the style of H.R. Giger > > https://youtu.be/mcCZftSbges > > (5 min,) >

[Vo]:An AI Creation of Dune Images

2023-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
In the style of H.R. Giger https://youtu.be/mcCZftSbges (5 min,)

Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!

2023-04-30 Thread H L V
Why do you refer to the ChatGPT as a "she"? Does this chatbot come with a gender setting so that it responds textually like a female? harry On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 8:08 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Robin wrote: > > >> The name as you yourself just quoted it has a comma at the end before the >>

Re: [Vo]:Disclosure Seems Imminent...

2023-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
And, coincidentally, Cattle Mutes are back in the news. https://archive.is/d6JEY On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 12:43 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > ...thanks to the new UAP whistleblower law. > > > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11996773/Six-whistleblowers-spill-UFO-secrets-congress.html >

[Vo]:Disclosure Seems Imminent...

2023-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
...thanks to the new UAP whistleblower law. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11996773/Six-whistleblowers-spill-UFO-secrets-congress.html

[Vo]:New Phase of H ?

2023-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
One wonders if this story could be related to Mills / Holmlid (ultradense hydrogen) etc ? https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-discover-a-strange-new-theoretical-phase-of-hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!

2023-04-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > The name as you yourself just quoted it has a comma at the end before the > final double quote, whereas there is no comma > in the actual text. I tried a variety of search terms. And indirect methods such as asking "who wrote the Infinite Energy" article about the conference.

Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!

2023-04-28 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 28 Apr 2023 12:31:02 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Quote the paragraph that says, "We must thank Christy L. Frazier for >writing a detailed report . . ." > >I apologize, but there is no paragraph in the provided context that says >"We must thank Christy L. Frazier

[Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!

2023-04-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I now have a large capacity ChatBot. I uploaded 121 papers, including every issue of J. Condensed Matter Nuclear Science (JCMNS). It works splendidly! Better than I expected. I will upload the rest of the papers in the next week or two. I have to prepare some of them. The screen is on the menu

[Vo]:Progress with ChatBot installation

2023-04-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am still waiting for ChatFast to upgrade my subscription so I can include many documents. I may be able to include the entire library. I have been shrinking documents by removing figures and spaces. It seems that 600 MB may be enough for all of the text. Most of it, anyway. I have been running

Re: FW: [Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields

2023-04-26 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
* *From: *H Ucar <mailto:jjam...@gmail.com> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:25 PM *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject: *[Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields I recently realized setups where two magnetic bodies are held in air chained manner. H

[Vo]:Hyena Consumes Less...

2023-04-25 Thread Terry Blanton
...memory, that is. https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-new-technology-could-blow-away-gpt-4-and-everything-like-it/

FW: [Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields

2023-04-25 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields I recently realized setups where two magnetic bodies are held in air chained manner. However the middle body is an arrangement of two dipole magnets and a steel piece instead of a single magnet. Anyway

Re: [Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields

2023-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
April 11, 2023 3:25 PM *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject: *[Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields I recently realized setups where two magnetic bodies are held in air chained manner. However the middle body is an arrangement of two dipole magnets and a steel piece instead of a

RE: [Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields

2023-04-24 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
permeability of space is a natural constant the controls the velocity of light in empty space. Bob Cook From: H Ucar<mailto:jjam...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine--tunneling and other entangled system phenonma--

2023-04-24 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine--tunneling and other entangled system phenonma-- Jurg apply points out that tunneling is a common event that happens within entan

Re: [Vo]:AI Image Wins Sony World Photography Award

2023-04-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Look at the full sized image of that fake photo. You will see that the hands are wrong. AI image generation often has problems with hands. The judges should have seen this. The guy who submitted this photo is quoted in this article: "I applied as a cheeky monkey, to find out if the competitions

[Vo]:AI Image Wins Sony World Photography Award

2023-04-21 Thread Terry Blanton
But was submitted as human sourced. https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy3vxy/sony-world-photography-awards-ai-generated

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT copy at LENR-CANR.org not working well. Please test it.

2023-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > What is the abstract for the paper AbuTaha, A.F., Cold fusion - the heat > mechanism. J. Fusion Energy, 1990. 9(3): p. 345. > > [TRICK QUESTION. THERE IS NO ABSTRACT LISTED. SHE GOT THE WRONG ONE, FROM > THE PREVIOUS PAPER] > > The abstract for the paper "Cold fusion - the heat

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT copy at LENR-CANR.org not working well. Please test it.

2023-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Okay, I added a structured index, with the items labeled. She said she did not need that, but she also said "That would definitely make it easier for me to identify the URL associated with each title." It turns out she still has trouble finding some of the URLs, so I appended them to the title and

[Vo]:ChatGPT copy at LENR-CANR.org not working well. Please test it.

2023-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
As I described in previous threads, I have installed a small version of ChatGPT at LENR-CANR.org. This copy of ChatGPT only has access to the files I upload. It is provided by a company called ChatFast ( https://www.chatfast.io/). Unfortunately, the bots this company provides do not have anywhere

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine--tunneling and other entangled system phenonma--

2023-04-18 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
From: Jürg Wyttenbach<mailto:ju...@datamart.ch> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine Tunnelling is a fancy effect that occurs when

Re: All wishful wording from Pfizer management ... Re: [Vo]:What's in the Pfizer Documents?

2023-04-16 Thread Terry Blanton
When it became mandatory for work on all federal contracts, I broke down and got the adenovirus vectored J vaccine. But there was no way I was going for an mRNA unknown. If the virus was not The Great Filter, the vaccines might be still. On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 1:55 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: >

All wishful wording from Pfizer management ... Re: [Vo]:What's in the Pfizer Documents?

2023-04-16 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
I did look at a specific document:: From the Actual Pfizer files: Filename:: 125742_S1_M4_4.2.3.2 38166.pdf in pd-production-030123.zip 1.March 2023 The files are full of wishful wording like no changes, where all test rats had changes etc... It looks like from the beginning the wording has

[Vo]:If a first...

2023-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
https://futurism.com/ai-destroying-humanity-new-tactic

Re: [Vo]:What's in the Pfizer Documents?

2023-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
The Pfizer documents: https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents/ On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 4:08 PM H L V wrote: > Naomi Wolfe on the dangerous sideeffects of the Pfizer vaccine and > questionable research > practices of Pfizer. > This speech was given on March 6, 2023, during a Hillsdale College CCA >

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT chatboxes customized for LENR-CANR.org only

2023-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Okay, I went ahead and added a third ChatBox to the page: https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=2988 This one has the first 381 pages of JCMNS Vol. 36, Proceedings of the 23rd International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science (

[Vo]:What's in the Pfizer Documents?

2023-04-13 Thread H L V
Naomi Wolfe on the dangerous sideeffects of the Pfizer vaccine and questionable research practices of Pfizer. This speech was given on March 6, 2023, during a Hillsdale College CCA seminar on “Big Pharma.”

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT chatboxes customized for LENR-CANR.org only

2023-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an exchange with Chatbot 1, which holds one of McKubre’s papers, plus part of the ASCII Bibliography, authors A through C. That's the most it can hold. You can see that it does not answer some of the questions. The ASCII Bibliography has abstracts by Czerwinski, so it should have found

[Vo]:ChatGPT chatboxes customized for LENR-CANR.org only

2023-04-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
I set up two customized ChatGPT chatboxes for LENR-CANR.org. They access data from LENR-CANR.org only, not the rest of the internet. Unfortunately, the utility program I am using can only index a handful of papers, so these are temporary. They are experimental. You can see how ChatGPT will work as

[Vo]:ChatGPT answers questions about a McKubre paper

2023-04-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I found a company that installs a dedicated local version of ChatGPT onto a website. The website operator uploads documents to this dedicated version, and it answers questions from that data only. I think that is how it works. I do not think it goes to outside sources. The company is here:

[Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields

2023-04-11 Thread H Ucar
I recently realized setups where two magnetic bodies are held in air chained manner. However the middle body is an arrangement of two dipole magnets and a steel piece instead of a single magnet. Anyway this is the first time two magnetic bodies having full degrees of freedom get bound by the help

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine

2023-04-11 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Tunnelling is a fancy effect that occurs when you neglect the magnetic interaction. Obviously and even worse Dirac and similar equations neglect the main acting part of particle physics - EM resonance. So they will go on for ever publishing fringe/fancy ideas (“Resurgence is very

[Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine

2023-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
https://www.quantamagazine.org/ “Resurgence is very fancy,” Bender said. But, to put it as simply as possible, it lets practitioners dig into the distant terms of an asymptotic series (calculated using Feynman diagrams, for instance) and uncover the missing pieces necessary to specify a unique

[Vo]:China to require 'security assessment' for new AI products

2023-04-11 Thread Terry Blanton
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230411-china-draft-law-to-require-security-assessment-for-new-ai-products

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
GPT is at tool used in computer linguistics since more than 10 years. It was just a matter of time until some brainless nerds would use it for KI... GPT just analysis and classifies text >the texts you give GPT. So its not KI its the condensed shit some people want to throw at you.

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Boom
Indeed, it can. It comes up with fake information. But now it is heavily moderated to not allow that. Em seg., 10 de abr. de 2023 às 16:33, H L V escreveu: > Can it dream? > Harry > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:49 AM Alain Sepeda > wrote: > >> There are works to allow LLM to discuss in order

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:33:48 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I hope that an advanced AGI *will* have a concept of the real world, and it >will know the difference. I do not think that the word "care" applies here, >but if we tell it not to use a machine gun in the real

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Robin
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:48:38 +0200: Hi, [snip] >The real difference is that today, AI are not the fruit of a Darwinian >evolution, with struggle to survive, dominate, eat or be eaten, so it's >less frightening than people or animals. The way a neural network

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread H L V
Can it dream? Harry On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:49 AM Alain Sepeda wrote: > There are works to allow LLM to discuss in order to have reflection... > I've seen reference to an architecture where two GPT instances talk to > each other, with different roles, one as a searcher, the other as a >

Re: [Vo]:Wolfram's Take

2023-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I may have posted this here before . . . Here is Stephen Wolfram writing about the new Wolfram plugin for ChatGPT, with examples of how the plugin enhances ChatGPT's capabilities: > https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/03/chatgpt-gets-its-wolfram-superpowers/

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
There are works to allow LLM to discuss in order to have reflection... I've seen reference to an architecture where two GPT instances talk to each other, with different roles, one as a searcher, the other as a critic... Look at this article. LLM may just be the building block of something

Re: [Vo]:Wolfram's Take

2023-04-10 Thread Terry Blanton
*The first thing to explain is that what ChatGPT is always fundamentally trying to do is to produce a “reasonable continuation” of whatever text it’s got so far, where by “reasonable” we mean “what one might expect someone to write after seeing what people have written on billions of webpages,

[Vo]:Wolfram's Take

2023-04-10 Thread Terry Blanton
What Is ChatGPT Doing ... and Why Does It Work? https://a.co/d/glEBRxd

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Food is contaminated despite our best efforts to prevent that. > Contamination is a complex process that we do not fully understand or > control, although of course we know a lot about it. It seems to me that as > AI becomes more capable it may become easier to understand, and more >

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Sean True
LLM do not have intrinsic short or modifiable long term memory. Both require supplemental systems - reprompting of recent history or expensive offline fine tuning or even more expensive retraining.I think it’s fair to say no AGI until those are designed in, particularly the ability to actually

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: As I said earlier, it may not make any difference whether an AI > feels/thinks as we do, or just mimics the process. That is certainly true. As you pointed out, the AI has no concept of the real world, so it's not > going to care whether it's shooting people up > in a video

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
GPT4 can have unlimited memory, right? Just give it access to a query engine. Max token context length (input PLUS output) is 32k in the latest model. GPT3.5 is 4096. https://openai.com/pricing Importantly, GPT4 has built 'world models' as a side effect of its training. And when it predicts

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
The most recent versions of Stockfish, the best chess engines, combines "brute force", the usual branching algorithm, with NN. ChatGTP 4.0 (which is actually quite similar to 3.5) uses plugins to be smarter. For example, it can evoke wolfram alpha if it needs to make calculations. This modular

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 20:04:46 -0400: Hi, As I said earlier, it may not make any difference whether an AI feels/thinks as we do, or just mimics the process. The outcome could be just as disastrous if it mimics committing murder, as it would be if it had murder

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > The methods used to program ChatGPT and light years away from anything > like human cognition. As different as what bees do with their brains > compared to what we do. > To take another example, the human brain can add 2 + 2 = 4. A computer ALU can also do this, in binary arithmetic.

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
Example, I used chatgtp to come up with a theory explaining the origin of eukaryotes. The part I enhanced was something that chatgtp came up with. In the theory of the origin of eukaryotes, we have discussed how colonies of prokaryotic cells started transporting vesicles by kinesin, which crossed

Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
That is probably true. Harry On Sat., Apr. 8, 2023, 6:36 p.m. Robin, wrote: > In reply to H L V's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:33:53 -0400: > Hi, > > It might be (almost) Earthquake proof. > > [snip] > >From a traditional perspective this structure does not look like a free > >standing

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > For example, if asked "Can you pour water into > > a glass made of sugar?", ChatGPT might provide a grammatically correct > but > > nonsensical response, whereas a human with common sense would recognize > > that a sugar glass would dissolve in water. > > so where did

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Boom's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 20:26:43 -0300: Hi, [snip] >It has a very short memory. It's something like 30kb. ...so's mine nowadays. :( >If the conversation >gets a little bit longer, it starts forgetting stuff, though it more ore >less keep track of the sense of the topic.

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
It has a very short memory. It's something like 30kb. If the conversation gets a little bit longer, it starts forgetting stuff, though it more ore less keep track of the sense of the topic. Em sáb., 8 de abr. de 2023 às 19:50, Robin escreveu: > Hi, > > The point I have been trying to make is

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
Hi, The point I have been trying to make is that if we program something to behave like a human, it may end up doing exactly that. Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.

Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to H L V's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:33:53 -0400: Hi, It might be (almost) Earthquake proof. [snip] >From a traditional perspective this structure does not look like a free >standing structure but it does stand upright like one. > >harry [snip] Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow,

Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
"You can't push on a string" is a kind of engineer's cliche about the mechanical properties of string. Typically a loose length of string comes to mind when we think of string. Normally we don't expect a loose string to offer (much) resistance when we push on it we say "you can't push on a

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
Yes, but have you tried to jailbreak it, this was a condition I told you about. This type of answer is done by a moderation bot. Em sáb., 8 de abr. de 2023 às 15:40, Jed Rothwell escreveu: > Boom wrote: > > >> For those who used it in the first few days, when bot moderation was not >>

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:40:08 -0400: Hi, [snip] >ME: ChatGPT is not considered artificial general intelligence (AGI). What >qualities of AGI are lacking in ChatGPT? > >ChatGPT: ChatGPT, as a language model, has a narrow focus on generating >human-like text based

Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to H L V's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:22:26 -0400: Hi, ...but you are not pushing on a string. The "push" acts on the solid ribs, which in turn connect with each other by "pulling" on the central string. In fact all the strings are "pulled" on. [snip] >"You can't push on a string"

Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
A different example using string and wire. https://youtu.be/EUlG0OGQmEA Harry On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 2:22 PM H L V wrote: > > "You can't push on a string" > > I think this single string tensegrity structure is even more awe inspiring > when he briefly holds it as a cantilever before standing

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Boom wrote: > For those who used it in the first few days, when bot moderation was not > installed properly, of right now, if it is jailbroken, GPT works just as > well as a very smart human. With a few tweeks (like making it use math AI, > wolfram alpha which surpassed humans decades ago, or

[Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
"You can't push on a string" I think this single string tensegrity structure is even more awe inspiring when he briefly holds it as a cantilever before standing it up right. If you skip to the second half of the video he shows how to use a block of wood to assemble the structure more quickly.

[Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
For those who used it in the first few days, when bot moderation was not installed properly, of right now, if it is jailbroken, GPT works just as well as a very smart human. With a few tweeks (like making it use math AI, wolfram alpha which surpassed humans decades ago, or NN, or scan OCR), it

Re: [Vo]:Chat Gpt as a tool to discuss hard topics

2023-04-08 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Maybe because I discussed the topic before the analysis and that I used GPT4 I was more pleased with my result as it connected to the discussion in the reviews. I think the tool is really useful if you know how to steer it. But if you are ignorant and just asked general questions you would be

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Developers Are Connecting Multiple AI Agents to Make More ‘Autonomous’ AI

2023-04-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Wrong, but interesting, URL https://www.vice.com/en/article/epvdme/developers-are-connecting-multiple-ai-agents-to-make-more-autonomous-ai On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 11:03 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article274029875.html >

[Vo]:Developers Are Connecting Multiple AI Agents to Make More ‘Autonomous’ AI

2023-04-08 Thread Terry Blanton
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article274029875.html

Re: [Vo]:Chat Gpt as a tool to discuss hard topics

2023-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > Can you analyze a paper at a preprint server > > Yes, I can help analyze a preprint paper . . . > I tried to do that. I gave it the URL of two cold fusion papers at LENR-CANR.org and said "summarize this paper." It was completely wrong! Title, authors, content

[Vo]:Chat Gpt as a tool to discuss hard topics

2023-04-07 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
I saw a few posts about chtgpt an for someone that search for someone to discuss topics where the expert is too busy to find or where the community would roll their eyes at the question and drag you into the dirt chtgpt is fantastic. If this bot is not wokefied into boring mess I think it will

[Vo]:Someone Asked an Autonomous AI to 'Destroy Humanity': This Is What Happened

2023-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
https://www.vice.com/en/article/93kw7p/someone-asked-an-autonomous-ai-to-destroy-humanity-this-is-what-happened

Re: [Vo]:Berkeley Lab to Lead ARPA-E Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Project

2023-04-06 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:41:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] >See: > >https://atap.lbl.gov/lenr/ About 30 years too late. :) Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.

Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-06 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2023 20:47:41 -0400: Hi, ...yet without writing, we would have no clue that what he said. :) [snip] >https://fs.blog/an-old-argument-against-writing/ > >. . . And so it is that you by reason of your tender regard for the writing >that is your

Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > . . . I am terrible at spelling. In 1978 when I first got a computer > terminal in my house, the first thing I did was to write a word processing > program with WYSIWYG formatting and a spell check. . . . I have not been > without word processing and spell checking since then. I felt

[Vo]:Berkeley Lab to Lead ARPA-E Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Project

2023-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: https://atap.lbl.gov/lenr/

Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
I agree that the other threats discussed in this paper are serious. They include things like "eroding our connections with other humans" and "enfeeblement": Many people barely know how to find their way around their neighborhood without Google Maps. Students increasingly depend on spellcheck

Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: ...one might argue that an AI placed in a car could also be programmed for > self preservation, or even just learn to > preserve itself, by avoiding accidents. > An interesting point of view. Actually, it is programmed to avoid hurting or killing people, both passengers or

Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-05 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 5 Apr 2023 13:00:14 -0400: Hi, [snip] >An AI in a weapon might be programmed with self-preservation, since >people and other AI would try to destroy it. I think putting AI into >weapons would be a big mistake. ...one might argue that an AI placed in a

Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-05 Thread Terry Blanton
I have a friend with a PhD in mathematics who was working on TS AI military weaponry 13 years ago. She eventually left that consultant job out of fear of what she was doing. On Wed, Apr 5, 2023, 1:00 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > This document says: > > This Darwinian logic could also apply to

Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
This document says: This Darwinian logic could also apply to artificial agents, as agents may > eventually be better able to persist into the future if they behave > selfishly and pursue their own interests with little regard for humans, > which could pose catastrophic risks. They have no

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > >> Perhaps you could try asking ChatGPT if it's alive? The answer should be > >> interesting. > >> > > > >She will say no, even if she is actually sentient. She's programmed that > >way, as Dave said to the BBC in the movie "2001." > > I had hoped that you would actually pose the

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Boom
We must not forget that it is not human intelligence. It requires an absurdly large amount of data to match what it can be achieved with relatively very little input in humans, like, with learning languages. On the other hand, it can learn an arbitrarily large number of languages provided enough

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 3 Apr 2023 16:31:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] >> Perhaps you could try asking ChatGPT if it's alive? The answer should be >> interesting. >> > >She will say no, even if she is actually sentient. She's programmed that >way, as Dave said to the BBC in the movie

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: On average, the human brain contains about 100 billion neurons and many > more neuroglia which serve to support and protect the neurons. Each neuron > may be connected to up to 10,000 other neurons, passing signals to each > other via as many as 1,000 trillion synapses.

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > Rather than trying to compare apples with oranges, why not just look at > how long it takes ChatGPT & a human to perform > the same task, e.g. holding a conversation. > You cannot tell, because she is holding conversations with many people at the same time. I do not know how

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Oops, missed that On Mon, Apr 3, 2023, 2:47 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> The human brain has 86 billion neurons, all operating simultaneously. In >> other words, complete parallel processing with 86 billion "processors" >> operating simultaneously. ChatGPT tells us she has 175

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On average, the human brain contains about 100 billion neurons and many more neuroglia which serve to support and protect the neurons. Each neuron may be connected to up to 10,000 other neurons, passing signals to each other via as many as 1,000 trillion synapses.

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:46:33 -0400: Hi, Rather than trying to compare apples with oranges, why not just look at how long it takes ChatGPT & a human to perform the same task, e.g. holding a conversation. Compare the time it takes you to respond in your

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > The human brain has 86 billion neurons, all operating simultaneously. In > other words, complete parallel processing with 86 billion "processors" > operating simultaneously. ChatGPT tells us she has 175 billion > parameters in Version 3. I assume each parameter is roughly equivalent

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > As pointed out near the beginning of this thread, while current processors > don't come near the number of neurons a human > has, they more than make up for it in speed. I do not think so. The total number of neurons dictates how much complexity the neural network can deal

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 2 Apr 2023 20:11:03 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Robin wrote: > > >> >I assume the hardware would be unique so it could not operate at all >> backed >> >up on an inferior computer. It would be dead. >> >> The hardware need not be unique, as it already told you.

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 2 Apr 2023 20:15:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Robin wrote: > > >> Note, if it is really smart, and wants us gone, it will engineer the >> circumstances under which we wipe ourselves out. We >> certainly have the means. (A nuclear escalation ensuing from the

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > Note, if it is really smart, and wants us gone, it will engineer the > circumstances under which we wipe ourselves out. We > certainly have the means. (A nuclear escalation ensuing from the war in > Ukraine comes to mind.) > As I pointed out, it would have to be really smart,

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > >I assume the hardware would be unique so it could not operate at all > backed > >up on an inferior computer. It would be dead. > > The hardware need not be unique, as it already told you. It may run slower > on a different machine, but it doesn't take > much processing power to

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