RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-20 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:58 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo Pulses cause significant skin effect because their Fourier components consist of high frequency harmonics. - Original Message - From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <mailto:zer

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-20 Thread Esa Ruoho
effect because their Fourier components > consist of high frequency harmonics. > > - Original Message - > *From:* Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 11:08 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo >

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 5:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo Am 19.09.2011 22:33, schrieb Joe Catania: Now you are asking me to take it on faith from you. I find you less convincing than Steorn. Let

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-20 Thread Joe Catania
Pulses cause significant skin effect because their Fourier components consist of high frequency harmonics. - Original Message - From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:08 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo From

RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo [deleted] Thus the original question set: Q1) Does this uneven current flow (skin effect) translate to potentially uneven heating - even at equilibrium**? [deleted] R.L

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Joe Catania
nents. Where is the paper mentioned? - Original Message - From: Peter Heckert To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo Am 19.09.2011 22:33, schrieb Joe Catania: Now you are asking me to take it on faith from

RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Robert Leguillon
at a Time, R.L. Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:21:10 +0200 From: peter.heck...@arcor.de To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo Am 19.09.2011 22:33, schrieb Joe Catania: Now you are asking me to take it on faith from you. I find you less convincing than Steor

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
paper? Tell me the price. Best, Peter - Original Message - *From:* Peter Heckert <mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 4:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo A

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Joe Catania
Now you are asking me to take it on faith from you. I find you less convincing than Steorn. - Original Message - From: Peter Heckert To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo Am 19.09.2011 22:22, schrieb Joe

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 22:22, schrieb Joe Catania: I'm not going to take it on faith about the AC power being less than DC. I've done these types of calculations before and I can tell you they are not simple. It is simple. The simplest way to calculate such problems is to use the law of enery conservati

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 19, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 19.09.2011 19:30, schrieb Esa Ruoho: The next step for Steorn may be when a client licenses one of their technologies and produces a working product. ;-) I was going to quote that line, but you saved me the trouble. 8^) The next step,

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Joe Catania
sed to evaluate them. - Original Message - From: Robert Leguillon To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:21 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo My Two Cents-- I must confess that I'm unfamiliar with the effect of electromagnetism on c

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 20:21, schrieb Robert Leguillon: My Two Cents-- I must confess that I'm unfamiliar with the effect of electromagnetism on conductive heating. I thought that I'd throw out a few questions regarding the observations of the 4th paper, hoping to learn: You must first kow, it is alwa

RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Robert Leguillon
My Two Cents-- I must confess that I'm unfamiliar with the effect of electromagnetism on conductive heating. I thought that I'd throw out a few questions regarding the observations of the 4th paper, hoping to learn: Background for the questions: Alternating current (dependent on the freque

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 19:30, schrieb Esa Ruoho: The next step for Steorn may be when a client licenses one of their technologies and produces a working product. ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 17:10, schrieb Ron Wormus: Peter, As far as I can see Naudin has never tried an experiment that did not work for him. His MAHG power measurements are in error (which has been pointed out to him). I did not analyze his power measurements. It is clear to me that an error with pul

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Esa Ruoho
Why are you guys referring to really old JLN stuff in 2011!? http://pesn.com/2011/09/14/9501914_Steorn_Drops_Four_Bombshell_Documents_Validating_Orbo/ September 14, 2011Steorn Drops Four Bombshell Documents Validating Orbo *The Dublin based, Irish free energy company Steorn, has allowed PESN to v

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Ron Wormus
Peter, As far as I can see Naudin has never tried an experiment that did not work for him. His MAHG power measurements are in error (which has been pointed out to him). His write ups are beautifully presented but in my opinion generally unreliable. Ron --On Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:01 AM

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi Walter! Am 18.09.2011 14:04, schrieb Walter Eager: Regarding your "Debunking of Steorn" You have some great theory my friend. It sure makes a lot of sense, and I do agree with some of what you are saying (because it makes sense). Just one thing. Have you actually tested your theory? No. I d

[Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm I think, this is easy to debunk. They say, they have a toroidal magnet. An ideal toroidal magnet has no external field and so there can be no back electromagnetic force. Now this is untrue. In this magical moment, where the permanent magnet passes by