RE: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Robert Leguillon
l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat > > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > This has been the problem all along -- everything is sloppy, Rossi's > > statements are often inaccurate or confusing, there's a little bit of > > what might be ou

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: This has been the problem all along -- everything is sloppy, Rossi's statements are often inaccurate or confusing, there's a little bit of what might be outright lying going on (e.g., the dry steam in the early tests, the undetectable isotope shifts, the factory heat

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
You don't understand skin effect well. Injecting high frequencies obviously may fool the meter. I think it would be safer to heat with DC. - Original Message - From: "Peter Heckert" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
pulsed power will blow a fuse which can't be blown by the same DC level. - Original Message - From: "Peter Heckert" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Another possibility is to make a small modification to each com

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
No you don't understand skin effect. - Original Message - From: "Roarty, Francis X" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:15 PM Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Joe, Peter is correct -XL =6.28fl and real current thru the coil is "cho

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
ge - From: "Peter Heckert" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat > Am 12.10.2011 20:00, schrieb Joe Catania: >> Nonsense, high frequencies are subject to skin effect. > So you have studied electrical engineering? &g

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-10-12 03:38 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Another possibility is to make a small modification to each component: Measure the flow rate a little bit wrong, measure temperatures a little bit wrong, calculate a little bit wrong, introduce so much errors and inaccuracies that a single one -if d

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
stor but it does not get hot because it is only storing it not dissipating it. Fran -Original Message- From: Joe Catania [mailto:zrosumg...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Nonsense, high fre

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Heckert
Another possibility is to make a small modification to each component: Measure the flow rate a little bit wrong, measure temperatures a little bit wrong, calculate a little bit wrong, introduce so much errors and inaccuracies that a single one -if discovered- would prove nothing, but all toge

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Heckert
elds can induce electric polarization and eddie currents which can dissiapte heat. - Original Message - From: "Peter Heckert" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Am 12.10.2011 20:00, schrieb Joe Catania: Nonsense, high freque

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
;Peter Heckert" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Am 12.10.2011 20:00, schrieb Joe Catania: Nonsense, high frequencies are subject to skin effect. So you have studied electrical engineering? I have. Unfortunately I dont know the prop

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Heckert
question here and with those thick cables you can almost forget the skin effect. - Original Message - From: "Peter Heckert" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Am 12.10.2011 18:39, schrieb Joe Catania: http://www.omega.com/h

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
Another problem is magnetic and electric field coupling to dipolar matter. This can dissipate energy as well. - Original Message - From: "Man on Bridges" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Hi, On 12-10-2011 20:08, J

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, On 12-10-2011 20:08, Joe Catania wrote: But an analyzer would eliminate doubt. You'd actually be measuring power instead of relying of neglecting something you know nothing about. A cheap secondhand CRT oscilloscope up to 10 MHz would show a lot of information as well ;-) Kind regards,

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
But an analyzer would eliminate doubt. You'd actually be measuring power instead of relying of neglecting something you know nothing about. - Original Message - From: "Alan J Fletcher" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
Nonsense, high frequencies are subject to skin effect. - Original Message - From: "Peter Heckert" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Am 12.10.2011 18:39, schrieb Joe Catania: http://www.omega.com/h

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat 2011/10/12 Joe Catania : It occurs to me that the means they are using to measure power is prone to error. An energy analyzer would be the best way to do it. If there's any reactance in the circuit they power ca

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:58 AM 10/12/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/10/12 Joe Catania : It can measure also DC current, but with separate DC settings of course. So could it be plausible to feed DC-current along with AC and clamp ammeter would not notice a thing? Then only conducting wire's capacity could limit ho

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/10/12 Joe Catania : > It occurs to me that the means they are using to measure power is prone to > error. An energy analyzer would be the best way to do it. If there's any > reactance in the circuit they power calculations they use would be > inaccurate. Indeed, they used very cheap (€40) cla

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Heckert
- Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Yep, it's called power factor. You're really on top of things, Joe! T On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Joe Catania wrote: It o

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat Yep, it's called power factor. You're really on top of things, Joe! T On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Joe Catania wrote: It occurs to me that the means they are using to measure power is prone to error

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Terry Blanton
Yep, it's called power factor. You're really on top of things, Joe! T On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Joe Catania wrote: > It occurs to me that the means they are using to measure power is prone to > error. An energy analyzer would be the best way to do it. If there's any > reactance in the c

[Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Catania
It occurs to me that the means they are using to measure power is prone to error. An energy analyzer would be the best way to do it. If there's any reactance in the circuit they power calculations they use would be inaccurate.