Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Robert Lynn
Look in the Temp data Ecat_6_10_11.xls file on nyteknic site at 11:22:01, It does disagree with Mat's report, and it is possible there was a transcription error or somesuch. Note that the secondary water flow started at 11:00 On 14 October 2011 20:12, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 15, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Robert Lynn wrote: Look in the Temp data Ecat_6_10_11.xls file on nyteknic site at 11:22:01, Could you post a link please? It does disagree with Mat's report, and it is possible there was a transcription error or somesuch. Note that the secondary water

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Look in the Temp data Ecat_6_10_11.xls file on nyteknic site at 11:22:01, It does disagree with Mat's report, and it is possible there was a transcription error or somesuch. Note that the secondary water flow started at 11:00 That is:

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Possibly you can advantageously use the symmetry to simplify this. If there is 100° at the steam inlet and 30° at the water side, then there must be (100+30)/2 = 65° in the middle. If figure A) is realistic, then the temperature at the thermoelement must be larger than (65+30)/2=47.5

[Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
The vortex mailer truncated the changed link in the message. Sorry --- I'll re-send the whole thing: I've put up a couple of sketches to explain Horace's/my resistor thermal model Detailed manifold schematic -- but the thermocouple isn't on THAT nut.

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Lynn
If anyone can get some reasonable dimensions for the components involved I can do a solid model finite element analysis to figure out the relative temperature split. It is really perturbing that the initial temperature measurements up to about 11:50 have a 4.3°C temperature difference between the

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: It is really perturbing that the initial temperature measurements up to about 11:50 have a 4.3°C temperature difference between the inlet and outlet of the secondary, and even at max power it only rises to about 7.2°C - obviously a huge temperature error, which in itself

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:49 AM 10/14/2011, Robert Lynn wrote: If anyone can get some reasonable dimensions for the components involved I can do a solid model finite element analysis to figure out the relative temperature split. Why not start with a simple brass tube 20 cm long total, with a wall thickness of 1