[Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Peter Gluck
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Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi has publicly stated that he is using over 100 computers to implement his latest control stratagem. From this meager bit of information we can deduce fairly much what is going on with the 1 megawatt cluster E-Cat reactor. That number of computers means he is using a SCADA system to do the

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
How will Russia kept their oil and gas products running in the face of Rossi's E-Cat challenge? Here's how. SCADA Strangelove: Zero-days hacking for full remote control Speaking of critical SCADA systems online and the risks to them…after finding more than 60,000 exposed control systems

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
in a practical, simple manner. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells Rossihas publicly stated that he is using over 100 computers

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells How will Russia kept their oil and gas products running in the face of Rossi's E-Cat challenge

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil, I suspect that you are misreading what Rossi stated. Why would you not think that each small ECAT unit has its own microcontroller? This is what a PLC is. It is a few analog to digital converters, a

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells How will Russia kept their oil and gas products running in the face of Rossi's E-Cat challenge? Here's how. SCADA Strangelove: Zero-days hacking for full remote control Speaking

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
with one at the moment. One can easily be controlled without having to worry about the Russians. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:10 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Bob Cook
turbines works the same way. I think computer and micro processor mean the same thing. Bob - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells Axil, I

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
guys to interfere. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells The Iranians lost control of their centrifuges, and they were not on the internet

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2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
. Bob - Original Message - *From:* David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:02 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells Axil, I suspect that you are misreading what Rossi stated. Why would you not think

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells The Iranians lost control of their centrifuges, and they were not on the internet. The infection came in on a memory stick. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:08 PM, David

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:26 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Rossi apparently is developing his own control software. Do you know otherwise? Consider the case of Linux systems compared to Windows devices. Any home grown systems development in this day and age is crazy. Not

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells Details, details, details, the costs are all in the details. The communication problems between the PLC and the PLS multiplexer (RTU) requires a complicated communication protocol, and data

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells Details, details, details, the costs are all in the details. The communication problems between the PLC and the PLS

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells IF Rossi is developing his home grown command and control system, we won't see the E-Cat cluster reactor released for another 10 years. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:26 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Yeah, and they did not have an internally

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
environmental and time extremes. Throw in a DSP capable processor if you want to be fancy. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:42 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells IF Rossi

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2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
the Iranians should have considered an alternate path? :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:43 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:26 PM, David

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2014-12-09 Thread Bob Cook
Axil--Give up! Bob - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells This is not true Axil. Something this simple begs to have its own carefully

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2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
the Iranians should have considered an alternate path? :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:43 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:26 PM, David

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2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells Then there is the ghosted real time PC based master control system to consider. Have you ever worked on a PC based real-time graphic interface controlling 100 remote computer? If you can custom code

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
excessive. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 5:03 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells Who is going to design the hardware for the custom PLC and the RTU, and the custom bus

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread David Roberson
We have beat this horse enough. I agree it is time to consider other issues. ;-) Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells OK On Tue

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
it is time to consider other issues. ;-) Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells OK On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Bob Cook frobertc

Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells

2014-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
wrote: We have beat this horse enough. I agree it is time to consider other issues. ;-) Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:more energy in disputes than from cells OK