From: Eric Walker
Kevin O'Malley wrote:
***I do not understand why this isn't being investigated
more thoroughly. It's not as if you've proposed some new physics.
I think it is new physics, and
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Paul Breed p...@rasdoc.com wrote:
(As others have pointed out one needs to be above the curie temperature of
the material being tested.)
Don't take this assertion too much to heart. I have doubts about it's
general applicability. On this list we like to
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
***I do not understand why this isn't being investigated more thoroughly.
It's not as if you've proposed some new physics.
I think it is new physics, and that Jones will agree with this statement.
He's proposing that
see
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=2cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CDcQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2004%2F2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdfei=Xp8nUZnbG-aJ0QGivICADwusg=AFQjCNHu3w5dimV_JIaouNutOQePoXu2Pgsig2=wKKTan2la6pfDqQbEQiXqg
On
Dear Paul,
Do you know:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/08/piantelli-taxonomy_15.html ?
Piantelli is the discoverer and developer, and long runner (solitary) of
the NiH system. The tests
were made at the Sienna Univ. the anlytical part at the Bologna u, (Sergio
Focardi et al)
Peter
On
Thanks for the references... there is so much info to absorb in this space..
As I suspected Piantelli is seeing heat, OR he is seeing radiation,
they do not seem to be corelated. IE gammas are not a good stand in for
heat production...
Paul
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Peter Gluck
Paul, you need to be careful how you describe correlation. A nuclear
reaction must produce radiation in some form. This is the only way
energy of the required magnitude can be released from a nuclear
process. The only issue is how much of this radiation can be detected
outside of the
Paul Breed wrote:
How strong is the evidence for excess enthalphy and radiation emissions
being correlated in Ni-H systems?
There is plenty of evidence that Ni-H thermal gain in most cases, produces
no measureable radiation. That does not necessarily mean that it is not
nuclear.
A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form.
I think this reasoning is how LENR ended up as a fringe science...
IE P+F could not possibly have seen that much heat or they would be dead
from radiation, therefore they are lying...
I agree that in some situations LENR systems make
On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Paul Breed wrote:
A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form.
I think this reasoning is how LENR ended up as a fringe science...
IE P+F could not possibly have seen that much heat or they would be
dead from radiation, therefore they are lying...
Not for sure, if you look for my other two papers
tr Piantelli on my Blog,you will see he has wiorked underfounded, his lab
was moved more times,
do it is possible he had no means to measure heat, radiation and
transmutations for all tests.
More important, many if not all transition metals can be
What I am trying to get Ed among others to recognize is that high energy
radiation from nuclear activity can be significantly downshifted in
frequency by the same sub wave length nano-structures that produce the
nuclear reactions in the first place.
Furthermore, the WL argument that energetic
*Piantelli seems to be one of the main promoters of the radiation claim.*
Piantelli sometimes sees EMF because of the way he produces his reaction,
His nano-structures are not topologically ideal to downshift the EMF to a
lower energy profile.
Since this downshifting of high energy EMF can be
Radiation is the ONLY way an active material can be quickly identified.
This tool has been ignored. I'm trying to get you and other people to use
it
Understood, the system I'm building will have at least one GM tube of equal
or better sensitivity to the LND7313 you used in your experiment
Paul, I have seen no credible demonstration that the Curie temperature
plays any role. This idea is mostly based on various arbitrary
models. In the nickel case, the effect becomes visible at higher
temperatures simply because the rate increases with temperature. The
effect can only be
*Radiation is the ONLY way an active material can be quickly identified.
This tool has been ignored. I'm trying to get you and other people to use it
*
I suggest that you might look for an increase of thermoelectric current
produced by the reaction.
Rossi has said he has seen this increase in
It should be noted that the most common nuclear reaction in the Universe,
by far – which is the reversible fusion of two protons into Helium-2 – such
as happens with unimaginable frequency on most stars including our sun - is
thought to produce no radiation. However, this reaction may produce
Dr Storms current theory argues that for D+D -4He the system must emit the
energy in small enough doses that
the radiation can't penetrate far enough to be detected
***Sounds like new physics to me. Is there any evidence that this
lower-level emission takes place elsewhere besides in LENR
From: Kevin O'Malley
It should be noted that the most common nuclear reaction in the Universe, by
far - which is the reversible fusion of two protons into Helium-2 - such as
happens with unimaginable frequency on most stars including our sun - is
thought to produce no radiation.
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