Although just a kid, I remember being outraged at the Indy 500 committee
for handicapping turbines after Parnelli Jones nearly won in 1967 with his
turbine car.
http://www.autopuzzles.com/Indy1967.htm
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:23 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Jed Rothwell's
here it won't be burned gas turbine, but recycled vapor turbine...
clearly downsizing is not evident... but maybe it is possible...
noise should be much lower, and no problem with throttling if the car is
hybrid.
evacuation of heat is not trivial also, because on car most of the heat is
, January 14, 2012 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:20:46 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Turbines are kind of slow to respond to controls. Jet engine aircraft are
less responsive than propeller-driven ones
Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote:
Gas is the operative term. It is the expanding gas that makes internal
combustion the best choice for most transportation. Steam engines and
condensers for light transportation are just not feasible.
That is incorrect. There have been several
maybe steam engine, but seems not to be turbine.
external heat engine, for light vehicle, seems to be piston engine.
Stirling or steam engine.
2012/1/15 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote:
Gas is the operative term. It is the expanding gas that
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
maybe steam engine, but seems not to be turbine.
Sure. This was 1925.
ICE cars were primitive and difficult to drive back then. This car was as
fast as any ICE car. Leno is shown driving at 60 mph. He says you can go
all day at that speed, whereas a
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
A thermoelectric hybrid vehicle would be better. It would be a lot more
expensive at present, but I expect the cost of themoelectric chips will
fall rapidly.
Let's use Rossi's thermo-electric chips... oh!
: Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
maybe steam engine, but seems not to be turbine.
Sure. This was 1925.
ICE cars were primitive and difficult to drive back then. This car was as
fast as any ICE car. Leno is shown
in the discussion about cars and e-cat/defkalion
I was assuming time to switch on of about 5 minute, taken from defkalion
(most of my computation are from defkalion hyperion)
today rossi give an answer about time to switch on/off
]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY
in the discussion about cars and e-cat/defkalion
I was assuming time to switch on of about 5 minute, taken from defkalion
(most of my computation are from defkalion hyperion)
today rossi give an answer about time to switch on/off
http
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
I was assuming time to switch on of about 5 minute, taken from defkalion
(most of my computation are from defkalion hyperion)
I do not know whether we should call this switch on or ramp up but yes,
this is what I was looking at as well, when I
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:20:46 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
I was assuming time to switch on of about 5 minute, taken from defkalion
(most of my computation are from defkalion hyperion)
I do not know whether we should call
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:20:46 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Turbines are kind of slow to respond to controls. Jet engine aircraft are
less responsive than propeller-driven ones. There was a gas turbine
automobile prototype in the 1970s. I do not know what it was like to
Hi, just to add some useful data
using some data used for electric car(french) in european small car market
http://sfp.in2p3.fr/Debat/debat_energie/websfp/Livet-elect.htm
for small urban cars (the kind who consume 3-4litter/100km)
Cx is around 0.33 for profiled cars, ( 0.5 for SUV), front
I'm afraid that LENR will trigger opposition, not mainly because of the
business that invest in 3rd revolution,
but because all the others who morally have invested in punitive policy.
I see a big part of 3rd revolution technology that CAN be reused :
- Converting Buildings into Power Plants
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.netmailto:orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
[Personal comment: Obviously, if Rossi related competition claims pan out in
the near future, that would initiate
To: 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY
Yes, the bankruptcies will be massive. However, some entities will survive
based on oil/gas used as a petrochemical feedstock. For them, it ain't gonna
be pretty
vehicles. There are LOTS
of opportunities for elimination of fossil fuels from our transportation system.
From: uniqueprodu...@comcast.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:33:07 -0600
Oil products still necessary
2012/1/9 Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net
Oil products still necessary for transportation/internal combustion
engines. Cold fusion is a heat source only, can't efficiently be used in
transportation, outside of large ships' steam plants.
What, back to steam engine cars and trucks?
On 2012-01-09 18:24, Alain Sepeda wrote:
yes, but with hybrid...
let's imagine a Toyota Prius, with :
- a smaller battery, with just 15 minute autonomy at full speed
What do you mean for full speed?
If it's full power, then you might want to reconsider that. With about
100 kW of peak
.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Leguillon
To: Vortex Listserve
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY
Though you could have modern steam vehicles, it is unlikely that this would
be the long-term solution
Automotive engineers say they would have no trouble making a cold fusion
heat engine given the temperatures and power density the best existing
devices. commercial devices will be far better than the best existing
experimental device today.
As noted by others here, the most likely design
I wrote:
The cost of extracting or synthesizing the liquids, then transporting,
storing and pumping them would be far greater than the extra cost of a cold
fusion engine.
Let me explain what I mean by that. Liquid or gasoline fuel would
presumably be either synthetic gasoline, liquid
Question between parallel and serial hybrid is studied, but for
gas+electric.
using a serial hybrid mode (Volt?), mean having 2 electric engine/generator
able to sustain the full power.
good point for serial is that turbine works at optimal working point,
because it has no need to drive the
Right,
I mean the battery need only to allow the vehicle to move on the highway,
while the LENR engine is cold...
I don't know well the power need of cars. I just look at current hybrid
cars power to get reasonable values.
25kW when running cold is a good news.
I assume this mean that when
Some countries are investing in The Third Industrial Revolution :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Industrial_Revolution
The European Union is going in big time with this ill-fated green energy
strategy. LENR will not be welcome by these power centers to say the least.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
[Personal comment: Obviously, if Rossi related competition claims pan
out in the near future, that would initiate a sustained and permanent drop
in global oil prices, despite rising world demand. Granted, It may not
happen
yes, I made the same analysis.
price of oil will get low, those who own reserve will sell them as fast as
possible.
by the way the prospection won't be affordable anymore, and we will soon
forget abour shale oil/gas and deepwater drilling.
it is a well known fact in geostrategy, that the cause
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