On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I do suspect that they would change their position and actions quickly if
anyone develops a technique that leads to dangerous weaponry. I hope that
this will never be possible and most of the evidence points in that
yes
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.comwrote:
This is a private message. Are you the same Axil on other energy websites
like focus fusion and thorium reactors?
On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
*His *technique* is one that will produce, if
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I know for a fact that the government can order a patent kept secret. I
once patented a spread spectrum transceiver which was placed in a secret
vault. It used some new concepts which the air force wanted with held.
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:
I know for a fact that the government can order a patent kept secret.
I once patented a spread spectrum transceiver which was placed in a
Von: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
An: Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com
CC: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Gesendet: 15:57 Mittwoch, 28.März 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
Guenter, as Abd noted, LeClair produced
hot fusion, NOT LENR. Cold fusion clearly
you don't even need to read a patent.
for me the data are already public in scientific papers, reviewed or not.
no magic in Rossi and DGT success, just plain engineering from various
papers including Celani, Piantelli, Focardi, SPAWAR, Miley,...
increasing the COP is just insulating the
weaponry. I hope that this
will never be possible and most of the evidence points in that direction.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Mar 29, 2012 9:43 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
David Roberson
Here is the bottom line. Le Clair is setting up
very hot conditions, conditions where only a
plasma could exist, inside the collapsing bubble.
If there is a fusion reaction, it's hot fusion,
practically by definition. Now, there is a kind
of cold fusion which really means hot fusion
but
At 10:03 AM 3/29/2012, David Roberson wrote:
I think the government officials in power most likely do not believe
LENR is real and therefore are not too concerned with secrecy. The
international work being performed upon the concepts prevents them
from having significant control in any case.
*At 10:03 AM 3/29/2012, David Roberson wrote:
*
*I think the government officials in power most likely do not believe
LENR is real and therefore are not too concerned with secrecy. The
international work being performed upon the concepts prevents them from
having significant control in any
At 12:45 AM 3/28/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote:
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 1:22 Mittwoch, 28.März 2012
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Ed Storms wrote to me: I did not confirm
transmutation. In fact, I told LeClair just the opposite
@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 1:22 Mittwoch, 28.März 2012
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Ed Storms wrote to me: I did not confirm transmutation. In fact, I told
LeClair just the opposite.
- Jed
So maybe the LENR-crowd should get its act together whether there are
transmutations or not.
Maybe
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
No, the military would have investigated, and probably did investigate.
I doubt it. There are dozens or hundreds of similar reports every year. The
military does not have the people or the inclination to investigate them.
They'd have checked
:24 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 12:45 AM 3/28/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote:
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 1:22 Mittwoch, 28.März 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
Ed Storms wrote to me: I did not confirm
At 12:45 PM 3/28/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
As I've written, if Le Clair's story is true, there are huge
military implications. This is not merely a method of producing
energy, and it would make, for example, a handy nuclear trigger. Do
not try this at home.
Such a statement sounds good
At 01:34 PM 3/28/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote:
On the other hand we are confronted with the situation that anybody,
who thinks LENR could be real, is easily located in the mental asylum.
Did you read that review I cited? Storms, Status of cold fusion
(2010). I assure you that Dr. Storms is
At 04:05 PM 3/28/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
This isn't LENR. Get that straight. If this is real, it's hot
fusion, which is precisely why it is so dangerous. Bubble fusion
creates very high temperatures in the collapse of the bubbles, and
there have been reports of energetic neutrons from bubble
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
So, you think that there was a nuclear incident with highly dangerous
radiation exposure to two people, hospitalizing them as seriously ill, with
radioactive material lying about, of unknown origin, and the authories go
ho, hum?
If the
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
[snip]...
, the technology would have been appropriated by the goverment . . .
The U.S. government cannot appropriate things at will. There has been some
talk here about the government
*His *technique* is one that will produce, if it works, extremely high
temperatures through bubble collapse. Absolutely, this is not cold fusion.
That, however, would not be hot enough (I assume) to reach to supernova
temperatures. To take the extremely high temperatures of bubble fusion and
then
This is a private message. Are you the same Axil on other energy websites like
focus fusion and thorium reactors?
On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
His *technique* is one that will produce, if it works, extremely high
temperatures through bubble collapse. Absolutely, this is not
Odd, when you click on the February press releases, you get March:
http://www.nanotech-now.com/2012-february-press.htm
although the January link gives January.
T
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
*From the PieEconomics web site as follows:*
**
*2/22/12: A new NanoSprire **press
release*http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=44551
* states: Nanospire has announced that its investigative study on fusion
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like Mr. Zweig has taken some liberties with the truth.
My apologies to Mr. Zweig. I misread his blog statement. The claims of
tree damage come from a letter sent to Krivit:
]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:30 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like Mr. Zweig has taken some liberties with the truth.
My apologies to Mr. Zweig. I misread his blog
I would not want to be anywhere within a mile of that monster device.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 10:29 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Terry
Von:Axil Axil
janap...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 8:28 Dienstag, 27.März 2012
Betreff: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
From the PieEconomics web site as follows:
2/22/12: A new NanoSprire press releasestates:
Axil et al.
This is one of several factoids which made me
Krivit is such a robot. He wrote:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/31/new-energy-times-issue-36-letters/
[Ed: I apologize for inappropriately attributing your word choice to
your educational background. I never believed you accomplished
fusion. You are misstating facts. Based on what you
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
*From the PieEconomics web site as follows:*
*Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are
permanently burned into walls, objects and trees surrounding the lab. [See
Krivit's second link, above.] Well, according to Google maps
*I seem to remember that early on Rossi claimed a nuclear based origin to
his reaction and that he put himself in real danger when he tried to look
for the cause without lead shielding.*
* *
*This may have been before the time he perfected his nickel micro-powder.*
* *
*Rossi has devoted
Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 23:52 Dienstag, 27.März 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
The Rossi
reaction is a complex one and if an important component of that process is not
in
place, bad things
*As I wrote about a year ago, if this were real, the military would be all
over it. Apparently they aren't. There are people informed who would inform
the military.*
*http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/3616ideologies.shtml*
Cold Fusion Versus LENR: Competing Ideologies By Steven B.
Ed Storms wrote to me: I did not confirm transmutation. In fact, I told
LeClair just the opposite.
- Jed
The experiment gave off powerful crested cnoid de Broglie Matter wave
soliton wave packages that were doubly periodic and followed the Jacobi
Elliptic functions exactly, mostly in the form of large doubly-periodic
vortices. Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 1:22 Mittwoch, 28.März 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova
Ed Storms wrote to me: I did not confirm transmutation. In fact, I told
LeClair just the opposite.
- Jed
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