RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread JonesBeene
Chris Zell wrote: Papp in particular, seemed to have something.  The Feynman incident suggests to me that there was something real about his claims. It is frustrating to me why intelligent observers continue to think that the Feynman incident (tragedy) points to something real in alternative

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
Hi Nigel Thanks. Physics education has been dumbed down and there now needs to be a revolution in Science/Physics to get things back on track. My latest talk at: Boscovich Unified field theory and Atomism given by Roger Anderton 28 aug 2017 | | | | || | | | ||

RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
skimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote: If you believe in MiB, then it is axiomatic that you

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread Nigel Dyer
Thank you for introducing me to Boscovich.  I had not encountered him before, but clearly should have. Nigel On 29/09/2017 21:23, ROGER ANDERTON wrote: from my studies of physics history, what "they" (educators of physics) do is dumb down the history when teach to physics students; so "they"

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
from my studies of physics history, what "they" (educators of physics) do is dumb down the history when teach to physics students; so "they" miss out teaching that unified field theory presented in 1758 by Boscovich, because not part of the curriculum that are told to teach so miss it out;

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
missed out unified field theory presented in 1758 >From Boscovich's theory to modern quantum theory: Prof Dragoslav Stoiljkovic | | | | || | | | || >From Boscovich's theory to modern quantum theory: Prof Dragoslav Stoilj... "From Boscovich's theory to modern

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread Axil Axil
For a 100 year history of LENR including Moray and Papp, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_0mMpfrsf8 On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Chris Zell wrote: > > > Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, Mills > and Mayer. > > I’m not sure that

RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread Chris Zell
Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, Mills and Mayer. I'm not sure that Papp and Meyer were complete scams. Papp in particular, seemed to have something. The Feynman incident suggests to me that there was something real about his claims. Beyond that, I've

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread Nigel Dyer
017 10:17 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR? On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com <mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote: >

RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
ent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:15 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>>

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Che
at a stupid thing to assert. NOT 'axiomatic'. Actually a NON SEQUITUR. So who's blind here, eh? > > > -- > *From:* Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:17 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [

RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Chris Zell
, September 26, 2017 7:01 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR? I think the appropriate advice is almost 2000 years old. We need to be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves. Not one, or the other, but both. Nigel

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Nigel Dyer
e: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR? On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com <mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote: > > LeClair hides behind the conspiracy curtain. "He can't do any demos or the Men in Black will get him."

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Brian Ahern
:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR? On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote: > > LeClair hides behind the conspiracy curtain. "He can

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-25 Thread Che
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern wrote: > > LeClair hides behind the conspiracy curtain. "He can't do any demos or the Men in Black will get him." Whatever the truth of anything else being claimed here on this eList -- the so-called 'MiB' are very, VERY, *VERY*

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Brian Ahern's message of Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:50:13 +: Hi, >This is patently absurd! If he had a system producing radiation from a simple >cavitation experiment it would be highly desirable and worthy of our interest. [snip] Of course it would. To start with, if one is getting

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-25 Thread Brian Ahern
LeClair will never show anything. From: Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:59 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR? Axil -- To take care is always g

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-25 Thread Nigel Dyer
Axil -- To take care is always good advice I am familiar with Mark's work, indeed I spent a good part of a day with him discussing what he has done.  There are some significant differences between the two systems, which could well explain why the behaviour of the two is somewhat different.

Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-22 Thread Axil Axil
Nigel -- My advise (worth what you have paid for it) is to be very careful. Mark LeClair produced a gainful cavitation system using a pump. He produces a ton of radiation and radiaoactive isotopes. DogOne replicated this cavitation reactor and this is what he said: - DogOne duplicated

RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-22 Thread Jones Beene
Nigel -- My advise (worth what you have paid for it) is to be very careful, even cynical - when it comes to investing in this - as there is ample reason to believe that this system is far from overunity. My bet is that the person who saw it running did not realize that the water pressure to