Nigel -- My advise (worth what you have paid for it) is to be very careful.
Mark LeClair produced a gainful cavitation system using a pump. He produces a ton of radiation and radiaoactive isotopes. DogOne replicated this cavitation reactor and this is what he said: - DogOne duplicated his reaction and got a solution of radioactive waste. http://pieeconomics.blogspot.com/p/cavitation-radiation.html Quote Seriously guys, this is a bad idea to pursue. Does it work? I say yes. Should we embrace it? I say no. Your taking some electrical energy to run a pump and pure water and making heat and toxic water. Plus, everything that has come in contact with that toxic water is now contaminated. It wouldn't really matter to me if the COP was greater than 100, its risks outweigh its energy production capability. That's about it in a nutshell. We need to be looking somewhere else for an energy solution. - On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > > Nigel -- My advise (worth what you have paid for it) is to be very > careful, even cynical - when it comes to investing in this - as there is > ample reason to believe that this system is far from overunity. > > > > My bet is that the person who saw it running did not realize that the > water pressure to the injectors was being provided by a separate subsystem > – not the main engine.. > > > > I would love to be wrong but it sounds like this is the same spiel that > has been going on there for many years – but now reincorporated and > repackaged - looking for new funding. > > > > If they had an engine which could be powered only by water, even for a few > hours - Gates or Musk would be there with a blank check.. But Gates got > where he is by demanding due diligence and you should too. > > > > The U of Florida may be known mostly as a football school but they do have > a decent physics department and are only a few hours drive away. > > > > It is naïve to suggest the new company is avoiding the “establishment” > scientists or some other lame excuse, when the real reason that no > University expert is vouching for this is that it simply offers no gain. > > > > Jones > > > > > > *From: *Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk> > > > > It is indeed a successor to the MIST device. I went out and spent a > couple of days with Richard Aho and Bill, but no I did not see a working > stem generator. I am however working with someone who did on a previous > visit. At its heart all the data/video etc that I have seen is consistent > with water that is at high pressure being converted to steam with no > additional energy being input at the point when the conversion takes > place. Water and steam enthalpy tables show that this is not possible > without some kind of LENR like activity providing additional energy during > the conversion process. > > Very little scientific investigatory work has been done, which is > something that I am working to sort out. I am also hoping to build on the > possible links between it and the electrospray experiment that I am also > associated with where energy gain was seen, something that I go into in the > notes. > > Nigel > > On 22/09/2017 22:04, Jones Beene wrote: > > Hi Nigel, > > > > Very interesting indeed … unless this is the old MIST device… but it is > doubtful that proton fusion is involved, even if there has been a > breakthrough - especially without measureable radiation. > > > > Did you see any kind of radiation signature? > > > > The main problem with a similar older technology has been lack of > measurement of all the subsystems. I am assuming that what you are working > with is derived from the system being promoted by Richard Aho, once called > MIST: > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/ahomist/ahomist.htm > > > > My associates visited the facility in Florida several years ago, and came > away very disappointed since they had been promised to be shown a working > device. > > > > Despite all the talk, there was no engine then which could actually run by > itself on water/steam. There were many, many excuses but AFAIK it looks > good on paper but has not been shown to actually run without another system > supplying the very high pressure required by the injectors. > > > > Perhaps there has been a bona fide breakthrough and things have changed, > but … $64 question … Have you actually seen it running on water/steam > without electrical input and without another system supplying the high > pressure water? If so, for how long? > > > > Jones > > > > > > > > >
