by for
instance a steam engine heated with 12 kW of power.
Peter v Noorden
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Driscoll
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nagel: Check List for LENR Validation Experiments
The calculations
From: P.J van Noorden
*How is it possible that the black tube is laying quiet on the ground while
the steam has a high velocity of about 300 km/hr. The high velocity of the
steam would create a reaction force in the tube which would cause the tube
to change position.
The diameter of the
On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
In the end - and even if all of the problems were there as claimed,
the heat demonstrated by Rossi is still a factor of 10 times input
(instead of 20-30 x).
Extreme thermal gain seems to be a non-issue, except in the extent
of gain.
On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
In the end - and even if all of the problems were there as claimed,
the heat demonstrated by Rossi is still a factor of 10 times input
(instead of 20-30 x).
Extreme thermal gain seems to be a non-issue, except in the extent
of gain.
Where do you get 700 watts in?
I'm thinking 400 in and 4 kW out at a minimum.
From: Horace Heffner
Jones Beene wrote:
In the end - and even if all of the problems were there as claimed, the heat
demonstrated by Rossi is still a factor of 10 times input (instead of 20-30
x).
On 01/17/2011 11:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Peristaltic pumps are an example of technology that by rights should
not work, but they managed to pull it off. They overcame what seemed
to be insurmountable problems with plastics. You have a wheel pressing
down and squeezing the plastic tube
You are right, Stephen- see e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peristaltic_pump (and many leaflets)
Have used such pumps mainly for agressive liquids as HCl that corrodes
almost all metals. But also for liquid cyanhydric acid (no problems) and for
liquefied phosgene - great trouble had to
and cold
airflow in the room.
Peter
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*From:* Jeff Driscoll hcarb...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:08 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Nagel: Check List for LENR Validation Experiments
That meter that was listed can measure
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
I have the impression that pumps like that are really good for pumping
whole blood. Anything with an identifiable impeller also has edges
inside, and tends to cause clots.
That's a good point. I recall they were developed for medical
applications.
[mailto:sa...@pobox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:51 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nagel: Check List for LENR Validation Experiments
On 01/17/2011 11:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Peristaltic pumps are an example of technology that by rights should
not work, but they managed
@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nagel: Check List for LENR Validation Experiments
That meter that was listed can measure Relative Humidity but it can not
measure the quality of the steam. As you know, relative humidity just
means how saturated the air
still notice a turbulence of
warm and cold airflow in the room.
Peter
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Driscoll
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nagel: Check List for LENR Validation Experiments
That meter that was listed can
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
(I've seen one off-hand reference to the condenser but it wasn't in a
description of the apparatus; it was, IRRC, in a remark by Terry and seemed
to be more of an assumption than anything else.)
Ackshully, not an
: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nagel: Check List for LENR Validation Experiments
That meter that was listed can measure Relative Humidity but it can not
measure the quality of the steam. As you know, relative humidity just
means how saturated the air is for for the given
But who the f knows?
T
The elusive Dr. f
Harry
On your following list, it appears that item #3 may not have been satisfied.
Unless the steam was collected, condensed, and weighed, one significant
matter stream was not properly accounted for.
The device itself should also be weighed, before and after, in order to
further assure that all
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell
Nagel: Given the input water flow of about 150 grams each half minute ...
OK, here is one more suspicious detail to check on, for anyone inclined -
the flow rate. This assumption of 300g/min above could be way off.
According to an excellent
Jones Beene wrote:
Nagel:Given the input water flow of about 150 grams each half minute...
OK,here is one moresuspiciousdetail to check on, for anyone inclined-
the flow rate.This assumptionof 300g/minabove could beway off.
Nope. As you will see in the photos, if I can manage to untangle
I wrote:
Nope. As you will see in the photos, if I can manage to untangle them and
upload them, the reservoir is sitting on a weight scale. (It wasn't the H2
bottle, it was the water reservoir.) You can monitor the decrease in water.
Okay. I finally managed to upload the document. I refer
I would like to add another comment about what Jones Beene wrote:
OK,here is one moresuspiciousdetail to check on, for anyone inclined-
the flow rate.This assumptionof 300g/minabove could beway off.
Beware of jumping to conclusions. Raising questions and wondering is
essential, but do not
As was mentioned by others, they should Insulate the black hose and drop it
into 30 gallons of room temperature water and measure the temperature rise
of the water.
How can you use an indoor air quality meter (listed in Jed's email) to
measure the dryness of the steam? (you can't)
How was the
Jeff Driscoll hcarb...@gmail.com wrote:
How can you use an indoor air quality meter (listed in Jed's email) to
measure the dryness of the steam? (you can't)
Apparently you can. The person who did this is reportedly an expert in
steam. I gather this meter measures RH in steam as well as air.
That meter that was listed can measure Relative Humidity but it can not
measure the quality of the steam. As you know, relative humidity just
means how saturated the air is for for the given temperature - it says
absolutely nothing about the quality (dryness or wetness) of the steam.
The quality
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:15:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
5. The test should be repeated at least three times, with each
conducted for a continuous period of sufficient duration to strongly
exclude the possibility of the measured exit energy being from chemicals
stored
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Jed, in your report you quote:
30 second period (see #2).
Was that the duration of the test??
(I had (perhaps mistakenly) gained the impression that it ran for at least
an
hour).
That's confusing, isn't it? The Jan. 14 test was about an hour. Not sure how
long
Dear Jed,
Just re peristaltic pumps- I have worked with them in the lab from the 70
years of the last century and Nature uses then for a very long time,
including in our digestive systems.
Peter
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
mix...@bigpond.com
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