From: Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:46:39 AM
Thanks Chuck,
It's encouraging to know we've had the same ideas! You may not have
had the polarity wrong. I've gone through two wires with it so far.
I've thought maybe I was putting too much power through it,
That is what I suspect as a strong possibility. I'm hoping a little
thicker wire will hold up better. It is interesting to watch the nitinol
wire in electrolysis as the hydrogen production seems pretty vigorous down
the entire length of the wire.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Alan Fletcher
Thanks Chuck,
It's encouraging to know we've had the same ideas! You may not have had
the polarity wrong. I've gone through two wires with it so far. I've
thought maybe I was putting too much power through it, but it also may be
that the hydrogen loading is very rough on the wire. After
Thanks for the suggestions Jones. I will give that a try.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
A combination of vinegar and hydrogen peroxide works with nickel-copper
and is very safe. This is often used to etch PCBs. Using a few volts with
the wire as
I ordered several additional meters of nitinol and constantan wire (.8mm).
It took some work to find similar diameters.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions Jones. I will give that a try.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jones
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously this is not as sensitive as advanced
calorimetry, but it is also not without utility.
Roger.
Jones,
I went back and looked at some of my previous results, and they do raise
the possibility of anomalous cooling. I was a little confused by these
results at the time.
After our discussion, I think this is exactly what you were predicting.
The control trial used HFAC pulses through a
Jack - Well that is interesting. It may be a relic of too little data which
will average out over time, but it may also mean something now.
IOW, it begs for more confirming data with slight changes that would
accentuate the effect by adding increasing levels of H loading with every
run. Since
BTW - can you find out what metal the beverage heater is made of?
Probably stainless and NOT chrome plated (hexavalent chrome is highly
toxic).
If it were to be the 316L grade of SS that could be important. This grade
has been associated with energy anomalies. That could relate to why it
Whoa ! Hold everything. What a find.
This Watta-heater is copper nickel plated...
http://www.amazon.com/Lewis-N-Clark-Watta-Heater/dp/B0045E4DSW
Heck - here is your basic Celani replication experiment for 16 bucks.
Jones
From: Jones Beene
BTW - can you
I went back and double checked the calculations and the beverage heater
control was actually below the predicted level as well. The predicted
value for the control run was incorrect, but the rest of the data was
correct. Anyway, I think the beverage heater is less efficient with pulse
heating
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Whoa ! Hold everything. What a find.
This Watta-heater is copper nickel plated...
http://www.amazon.com/Lewis-N-Clark-Watta-Heater/dp/B0045E4DSW
Heck - here is your basic Celani replication experiment for 16 bucks.
Here is where I got the nitinol for those interested:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003R5028K/ref=biss_dp_sa1
It would certainly be something if this ended up being replicated with a
beverage heater. ;)
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 24,
Might try again. Seems to be working fine now.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I get an error message from that page
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*From:* Jack Cole
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I've been conducting a new series of electrolysis experiments with
Jack,
Nitinol is a interesting choice since both nickel and titanium are proton
conductors with a history of positive results in LENR - and the wire is
commonly available. Plus there is the strange memory effect (which could
be utilized for audible resonance).
It appears from your other pages
Jones,
I'm still working the kinks out of the experimental procedures. At first
glance, the behavior doesn't appear to be different than the nickel and
tungsten.
What I am working on now is a three electrode system. One is made out of
nitinol, and I'm using this as a heating element only.
the geometry.
Fran
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:30 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:new experiment (nitinol)
Jack,
Nitinol is a interesting choice since both nickel and titanium are proton
conductors with a history of positive
Jack,
If anomalous cooling in Nitinol (putative) is of any interest - here is
about the simplest experiment which can tell an experimenter something worth
knowing. I've not done it, but it is now on my list.
It would be to compare the relative temperature rise using simple resistance
A proposal from a nuclear amateur.
If LENR is fusion this
experiment may consume 11B and makes 4He.
But if LENR involves free
neutrons there would be a different reaction.
10B+n → 7Li+4He+gamma +
2.31 MeV
The 10B isotope is good at capturing neutrons. It would be
fine to looking for
That should be easy enough to carry out. I will order some constantan and
some more nitinol.
Are you thinking that the hydrogen loading may be unnecessary?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Jack,
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If anomalous cooling in Nitinol (putative)
Hydrogen loading will surely be necessary at some level, but can possibly be
accommodated by combination of low pH electrolyte, not so low as to dissolve
the wires. or preferably by preloading etched wires for a day under H2
pressure and modest heat, or even the simplest expedient which would be
I could run some low power electrolysis for a day or two in some diluted
hydrochloric acid. Think that would do the trick? Or do you have another
idea for the acid?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Hydrogen loading will surely be necessary at some
And the calorimetry? How will you know if you have something?
I am using a basic open electrolytic cell with with a temperature sensor in
the cell and one for ambient temperature. Temperature and power input
levels are recorded every second. I start with an elevated baseline
temperature in the cell above ambient and do several repeated runs allowing
it to
A combination of vinegar and hydrogen peroxide works with nickel-copper and
is very safe. This is often used to etch PCBs. Using a few volts with the
wire as cathode should also load H2. The muriatic may work better on
Nitinol.
This is not precise calorimetry - Terry. you can to call it
Hi Jack,
Keep on experimenting! Your following the same track that I did, and
Nitinol was one thought I had. The idea at the time was to load hydrogen
into nitinol, and then crank up the current to flex the metal lattice with
the H embedded in the crystal structure. I think I had the
I get an error message from that page
From: Jack Cole
I've been conducting a new series of electrolysis experiments with Nitinol
(56% nickel/44% titanium). I did a little video demonstrating nitinol's
effect of contracting when heated while running an electrolysis experiment.
I'm
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