Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
From Jeff: Up in the business sense. http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/rossi-leonardo-corp-will-not-be-the-same/ Scrolling down a bit is a new Oct 25 entry, allegedly from Rossi: This is what will happen next week: The E-CAT is going to be the US election Game Changer. Rossi will join Obama in a big press conference declaring the end of oil dependence era and a new energy technology birth which will save our world In Rossi's dreams. or else... Obama! Tread very carefully here! Said differently: Fasten your seat belts. We're in for a bumpy ride. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
Oops! Just to be clear on this point, Rossi did NOT say that. He did NOT say he has a planned press conference with Obama. That was pure speculation. I should have read the statement more mroe clearly. My apologies. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Oops! Just to be clear on this point, Rossi did NOT say that. He did NOT say he has a planned press conference with Obama. That was pure speculation. I should have read the statement more mroe clearly. Reading further: Except that he will join Romney. Don’t you remember… “Dear Dr Rossi, I am reading some of Ayn Rand’s works and now I think I better understand your philosophy. Could I be right? Best regards, Antonella Andrea Rossi January 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 AM Dear Antonella: Could be. In “Addio Kira” the individuals are seen as bearers of a specific light from God that cannot melt in a system but has the duty to give a specific contribution to the system. In her is evident the reaction to the massification demanded from the bolscevism, anyway I share that phylosophy, in a certain sense, yes. Warm regards, A.R.” So Rossi is an Objectivist.
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
Terry sez: ... So Rossi is an Objectivist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29 Hmmm. This is going to take a while for me to read up on. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Terry sez: ... So Rossi is an Objectivist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29 Hmmm. This is going to take a while for me to read up on. ;-) His specific reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_Living
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
An unequivocal acceptance of cold fusion by the establishment (say, GE comes out in full support of Rossi) next week would more likely inure to the benefit of Romney than Obama given the vicious role government has played in opposing cold fusion, Romney's statemet in support of cold fusion research (however ignorant it was of the definition of cold fusion) and Obama's manifest idiocy in picking winners in the energy field. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:24 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Oops! Just to be clear on this point, Rossi did NOT say that. He did NOT say he has a planned press conference with Obama. That was pure speculation. I should have read the statement more mroe clearly. My apologies. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
My own guess is that this comment will end up being another overwhelming promise followed by another underwhelming delivery. It just seems to be a pattern common to Mr. Rossi. I hope I'm wrong. Again, I'm trying to play the dispassionate commentator here. I have no position on whether he has anything, whether there will be commercial significance, etc. There just isn't enough information. I don't know is an excellent answer to most questions, especially when it's true. Jeff On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:12 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: An unequivocal acceptance of cold fusion by the establishment (say, GE comes out in full support of Rossi) next week would more likely inure to the benefit of Romney than Obama given the vicious role government has played in opposing cold fusion, Romney's statemet in support of cold fusion research (however ignorant it was of the definition of cold fusion) and Obama's manifest idiocy in picking winners in the energy field. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:24 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Oops! Just to be clear on this point, Rossi did NOT say that. He did NOT say he has a planned press conference with Obama. That was pure speculation. I should have read the statement more mroe clearly. My apologies. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
From Jeff: My own guess is that this comment will end up being another overwhelming promise followed by another underwhelming delivery. It just seems to be a pattern common to Mr. Rossi. I hope I'm wrong. That does seem to be Rossi's prior track record - to constantly titillate his audience. I put a lot of credence in Vort speculation that states the fact that the principal LENR problem is a lack of adequate control over the reaction. Without proper controls commercialization will be impossible. Likewise, it would seem that many skeptics have now redrawn the line in the sand. They now seem to conveniently focus their criticisms on claiming the fact that the LENR reaction is not commercially practical. Well, of course it isn't commercially practical, in its present incarnations. Neither were the first integrated circuits: http://www.cedmagic.com/history/integrated-circuit-1958.html ...such as shown here next developer Jack Kilby. If government support, (such as from the DoD's own self-interest objectives) hadn't stepped in during the infancy phase of this technology's development and supported it generously we would not be enjoying the fruits of their own self-interests. I hope that 20 or 30 years from now something similar may be said about the history of LENR technology... with hopefully less emphasis on the role DoD might initially play. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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At 09:05 AM 10/25/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: That does seem to be Rossi's prior track record - to constantly titillate his audience. Many of his commercial hints have failed to materialize, or have fizzled (big US company etc ..) -- but most of his technical hints have materialized in one form or another.
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
From Alan: That does seem to be Rossi's prior track record - to constantly titillate his audience. Many of his commercial hints have failed to materialize, or have fizzled (big US company etc ..) -- but most of his technical hints have materialized in one form or another. Here's a perfect example of Rossi-speak when it comes to a long list of commercially-based antics: http://pesn.com/2012/01/05/9601997_E-Cat_Weekly_January5/ E-Cat Weekly -- January 5, 2012 - This past week saw at least 80 stories on the web, 4 from mainstream news, regarding Andrea Rossi's E-Cat powered by LENR or cold fusion. The hottest theme was Rossi's assertion that he is in discussion with Home Depot to distribute 1 million home heat units this Autumn for less than $2,000 USD. Reality will probably dictate a longer time-line. (PESN; January 5, 2012) Well, it's now Autumn... and, oh, by the way, our water heater sprung a leak over the weekend. Time to replace the old monster. Tonight I'm headed for Sears to price another natural gas water heater, particularly since I'm aware of no Rossi-LENR models. ;-) It's no wonder skeptics and debunkers consider Rossi to be nothing but a comical charlatan. For those who find the above skeptical stance a bit too over-simplified for the reality of the situation, Rossi gives them (myself included) the impression that he has uncovered a little-understood LENR heat-generating process. He had steadfastly attempted to personally capitalize on his discovery, but all on his own recognizance. The problem, as many Vorts see it, is that Rossi has repeatedly shown what appears to be a maniacal (almost comical) unwillingness to let others into his protective sphere of influence, individuals who long ago could have assisted him in figuring out how to better control the mysterious LENR reactions in a safe and reliable manner. I gather Rossi has repeatedly ended up frustrating the hell out of many well-intentioned individuals, organizations and companies who sincerely wanted to help out - if not to share a little in a slice of the pie. Rossi seems to want the pie all for himself, but may end up with most of it on his face. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's now Autumn... and, oh, by the way, our water heater sprung a leak over the weekend. Time to replace the old monster. Be sure you check the water pressure regulator. I did not do that last time and new heater soon sprang a leak. This time I had a plumber do everything right. It's no wonder skeptics and debunkers consider Rossi to be nothing but a comical charlatan. Yup. But I agree with Alan Fletcher that Rossi does tend to come through on his technical hints. His track record is remarkably good. His flamboyant personality gets in the way and we fail to notice this. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
Jed sez: ... ...I agree with Alan Fletcher that Rossi does tend to come through on his technical hints. His track record is remarkably good. His flamboyant personality gets in the way and we fail to notice this. Rossi is what what Rossi does. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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On 10/25/2012 03:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yup. But I agree with Alan Fletcher that Rossi does tend to come through on his technical hints. His track record is remarkably good. His flamboyant personality gets in the way and we fail to notice this. He's also really good at sticking to a schedule, which is a trait that most RD companies lack. He told us back in January, 2011, that he would build a 1 mw plant for delivery in October, and he stuck to it. This tells me that he has experience managing large projects and sticking to a tight schedule and budget. This demonstrates competence and is not a trait in con artists. It's one of the more credible parts of his personality. Craig
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo
Seeing that we have this thread going : Joseph Fine October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 PM Andrea Rossi, You said you will soon provide information about the new 1 MW Hot Cat. I have not yet made a volume estimate of the Hot-Cat (1 MW). But I think the 1 MW Hot Cat will have 90 to 100 modules. Some one commented on E-Cat World that Apple might buy Leonardo Corporation and rename the E-Cat the I-Cat. Please say it isnt so! Joseph Andrea Rossi October 25th, 2012 at 2:20 PM Dear Dr Joseph Fine: The Hot Cat will have 72 modules and the whole generator will stay in 1 cubic meter of volume. I suppose. Very important progree is in course. About what might be: if I might have 6 balls, I could be a flipper. Warmest Regards Adrian Monk October 25th, 2012 at 7:48 AM Some comments on E-Catworld are saying (as a joke) that you will light up Red Square or something similar in US on December 21 2012. That is a joke to lower the expectation bar for your news next week. So if it is not that (is it? ) what can we expect next week in terms of communication to us, fans? A small press release in JONP, a big public press release or no press release at all because you cannot share the news being too confidential? Andrea Rossi October 25th, 2012 at 2:24 PM Dear Adrian Monk: Next week we will have no particular communications to make. We are working very hard here, in the USA. Warm Regards, A.R.
