Re: [WAMUG] Re; Beeping iMac and a question mark

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   And a bit of an adventure getting to look inside the Mac too 浪

   On 17 Apr 2024, at 12:25 pm, Matt Falvey 
   wrote:

   Thanks, Stephen that is a very good idea, removes any doubt.
   Take care.
   Matt

   Regards
   Stephen Chape
   Mac by choice
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Re: [WAMUG] Beeping iMac and a question mark

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Matt.

   If it were me, I would open the Mac, pull out the HD and break it up.

   On 17 Apr 2024, at 11:20 am, Matt Falvey via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hi Daniel, thanks for the reply.
 I have a recent Super Duper Back up and I hardly used the iMac so I
 don’t think there will be too much missed.
 Just concerned now about how to erase the HD on the iMac before
   getting
 rid of it.
 I will be contacting off list in a while re a replacement.
 Take care.
 Matt
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 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:51:44 +0800
 From: Matt Falvey 
 To: Wamug List 
 Subject: [WAMUG] Beeping iMac and a question mark
 Message-ID: <52eb9192-3eac-4b22-bd6b-cec2847d8...@bigpond.net.au>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
 Hi, I have an iMac 27? 2.8Ghz Corei7, (Late 2009).
 This morning when I woke it from sleep it started emitting a
   continuous
 beep sound, it was still showing screen pages and images, but with a
 black background.
 I was unable to control anything. so I pressed the button to shut it
 down and restarted it. When I restarted it all I had was a white
   screen
 and a continuous beeping sound.
 I again turned it off and did an SMC reset, unplugging the power cord
 and all the peripherals, turned it back on white screen and beeping.
 I did a PRAM reset, turned it back on and had the same result. (There
 was no grey screen and no start up sound).
 As I was searching the internet to see what more I could possibly do,
   I
 let it continue to beep in the background, after about 5 minutes, the
 beeping stopped and now I have a flashing grey folder with a white
 question mark inside it.
 Does anyone have any idea as to what else I may be able to do to fix
 the problem?
 Take care.
 Matt
 -- next part --
   Hi, I have an iMac 27? 2.8Ghz Corei7, (Late 2009).
   This morning when I woke it from sleep it started emitting a
 continuous
   beep sound, it was still showing screen pages and images, but with
   a
   black background.
   I was unable to control anything. so I pressed the button to shut
   it
   down and restarted it. When I restarted it all I had was a white
 screen
   and a continuous beeping sound.
   I again turned it off and did an SMC reset, unplugging the power
   cord
   and all the peripherals, turned it back on white screen and
   beeping.
   I did a PRAM reset, turned it back on and had the same result.
   (There
   was no grey screen and no start up sound).
   As I was searching the internet to see what more I could possibly
   do,
 I
   let it continue to beep in the background, after about 5 minutes,
   the
   beeping stopped and now I have a flashing grey folder with a white
   question mark inside it.
   Does anyone have any idea as to what else I may be able to do to
   fix
   the problem?
   Take care.
   Matt
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 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 18:40:12 +0800
 From: Daniel Kerr 
 To: WAMUG 
 Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Beeping iMac and a question mark
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Hi Matt
 If it?s doing 3 beeps, then a pause, then 3 more beeps that?s an
   issue
 with the RAM.
 But if it?s doing one long continuous beep than unfortunately that?s
   a
 bit more servere - it generally means there is an issue with graphics
 card, firmware issue or logic board/motherboard. And given it?s not
 booting off a drive (which is what the folder icon means with a
 flashing question mark - it can?t find the boot drive), then I?d say
 unfortunately that iMac has most likely ?died?.
 Given the age of it, you?d be hard pressed to get any parts or get it
 fixed unfortunately. So only thing you could really do is take the
   hard
 drive out (and hopefully it?s still ok with data on it), then either
 transfer that to another iMac or put it into an external case to
   access
 the data.
 But generally if an SMC, PRAM reset won?t start 

Re: [WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thank you very much Daniel.

   I hardly ever log in to [1]iCloud.com like that.

   So I must have forgotten that procedure.

   Anyway your assistance was very welcome.

   PS: I have seen no posts from Ronnie for a long time.

   Do you (or anyone else) know if she is OK?

   On 11 Mar 2024, at 9:14 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:

   Hi Stephen
   Generally if it’s the window you’re describing asking to use the “usual
   AppleID” then the password it actually wants is your computer password.
   (As it most likely has your AppleID password saved into a special
   encrypted token), so it’s then asking you to enter your computer
   password to “authorise” the computer to access that token.
   So when it pops up, you just enter your computer password and it will
   then log in as per normal.
   It’s so you can use your own AppleID on your own computer, but if
   someone else a) tried to access it that can’t - without knowing your
   computer password or b) someone else can log in to their AppleID had
   they want to check something.
   But your normal computer password should then take you to the step
   without having to go the long way you mentioned.
   Kind regards
   Daniel
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 On 10 Mar 2024, at 10:32 AM, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  wrote:
  Hi folks.
  When I try to log in to iCloud.
  I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"
  If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.
  But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”
  Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”
  My password lets me in.
  In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.
  “why is this so?”
  Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!
  Regards
  Stephen Chape
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Re: [WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thank you Peter … but I do not use safari to log in.

   I do so manually.

   However I looked where you suggested in Safari.

   But it tells me it has no password recorded.

   So back to square one !!

   On 10 Mar 2024, at 1:07 pm, Peter Hinchliffe via WAMUG
wrote:

 My only suggestion is:
 If you’re logging with Safari, go to Safari > Settings > Passwords
   and
 find the entry for your iCloud login. You can’t edit it, so delete it
 using the — symbol at the botton of the passwords list. Close the
 window and try logging in again. This time Keychain will ask again if
 you want to save your login and password. Say OK and move on.
   Hopefully
 this will fix the problem. Please note this will not necessarily work
 for other browsers because they won’t work the same way with
   Keychain.
 On 10 Mar 2024, at 10:32 am, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  wrote:
   Hi folks.
   When I try to log in to iCloud.
   I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"
   If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.
   But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”
   Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”
   My password lets me in.
   In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.
   “why is this so?”
   Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!
   Regards
   Stephen Chape
   Mac by choice
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[WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks.

   When I try to log in to iCloud.

   I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"

   If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.

   But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”

   Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”

   My password lets me in.

   In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.

   “why is this so?”

   Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!

   Regards
   Stephen Chape
   Mac by choice
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Re: [WAMUG] March General Meeting

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   I agree Tim … looked very interesting.

   I decided to log in this time too.

   But fate took hold and other issues arrived at that time.

   DAM !!!

   On 6 Mar 2024, at 8:55 am, Tim Law via WAMUG 
   wrote:

   Good morning,
   I’m disappointed to have missed out on the meeting last night. The
   agenda contained a great variety of topics of interest.
   I hope those who didn’t ignore their meeting reminders ‍, found it
   valuable.
   Tim Law

 On 4 Mar 2024, at 3:17 pm, Maureen Smith via WAMUG
  wrote:
    Hello Fellow WAMUGgers,
  This is a reminder that our March meeting takes place tomorrow,
 Tuesday
  March 5th
  Meeting topics will include
* Pay Pal & security online.
* Password management.
* Cookies not the eating kind.
* The new Shopping list on Reminders
  MEETING AND LOGIN DETAILS
  Date: Tuesday 5th March
  Time: 07:30 PM (Usually lasts an hour)
  Zoom Meeting Link:  [1]https://bit.ly/3InLdLm
  Meeting ID: 874 0246 3328
  Passcode: 983007
  If you have problems with the link or prefer to go 'Old School',
 follow
  these instructions.
   1. Type [1][2]zoom.us into your browser's address bar.
   2. At the login screen, click the Join button. (located on the
 black
  coloured bar, third from the right)
   3. At the Join Meeting screen, type in the meeting ID included in
  thisemail
   4. Finally, click Allow on the dialog box shown in your browser.
 Ifyou
  don't see a dialogue, click the Launch Meeting button
  We will be there waiting and looking forward to seeing you.
  Cheers,
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Re: [WAMUG] Spam.

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Not me either !

   On 6 Mar 2024, at 8:34 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:

   Hi Tony
   Not appearing to the list.
   But I think they are just “pretending” to be wamug.
   If you can forward me the email (including the header information), I
   can have a look at it and advise.
   (Preferably send off list please, or “forward as attachment” if my
   server bounces it - as it may think it’s spam).
   Thanks
   Kind regards
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 On 6 Mar 2024, at 2:56 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi Guy’s
 Just like to let you know that I keep getting these e-mails on a
 regular basis, and I’m wondering if anyone else is getting them?
 Kind Regards
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Re: [WAMUG] It’s MAC’s 40th Birthday today

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   

   On 23 Jan 2024, at 12:32 pm, Marcus Harris via WAMUG
wrote:

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 [1]Mac at 40: User experience was the innovation that launched a
 technology revolution
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Re: [WAMUG] "Buy3 and get 1 free"

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   What a wonderful gesture … thank you !!

   On 18 Dec 2023, at 5:01 pm, Maureen Smith via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hello Fellow WAMUGgers,
 At the November Committee Meeting, your Committee decided that list
 members who have paid their membership fees for the past three years,
 2021-2023, will have free membership access for 2024.
 It is the Committee's way of saying thank you for your continued
 support. Consider it a “Buy 3 and get 1 free” deal, or perhaps an
   early
 Christmas present.
 We have a record of the members who have paid fees for the past three
 years and they will contacted individually via email within the week.
   I
 will notify the mailing list when this occurs.
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Re: [WAMUG] iPhone iOS 17.1.2 Handoff

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Great to see it is resolved Walter 

   On 12 Dec 2023, at 8:47 am, FW via WAMUG 
   wrote:

   Hello Robin and Stephen,
   I did what you suggested Robin.
   Last night after de-selecting Handoff it was still happening.
   But this morning the audio is available as soon as I touch the “Audio”
   button.
   So it’s all good now, thank you both for your help.
   Cheers
   Walter
   ***

 On 11 Dec 2023, at 19:01 , Robin Belford via WAMUG
  wrote:
  Hi Walter,
  All you need to do is this.
  iPhone: Go to Settings > General > AirPlay & Handoff, then turn
  off Handoff.
  cheers,
  robin
  On 11 Dec 2023, at 6:19 pm, FW via WAMUG 
  wrote:
  Good Evening,
  When I receive and accept a call,  I normally - where possible -
 touch
  the Audio button to hear the caller while I carry on
  with whatever I am doing.
  Then a new screen comes up which asks me to make a selection from
 the
  list:
  iMac Intel
  iPad
  Speaker
  iPhone
  When I touch Speaker,  the caller can be heard.
  Is it possible to adjust some setting so that “Speaker" is the
 default
  ? ?
  Without having to see the other options ?
  Thanks,
  Cheers
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Re: [WAMUG] iPhone iOS 17.1.2

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Not sure if this helps but,

   Try Settings/Accessibilty.

   Could be a setting there that might help.

   On 11 Dec 2023, at 7:01 pm, Robin Belford via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 All you need to do is this.
 iPhone: Go to Settings > General > AirPlay & Handoff, then turn
 off Handoff.
 cheers,
 robin
 On 11 Dec 2023, at 6:19 pm, FW via WAMUG 
 wrote:
 Good Evening,
 When I receive and accept a call,  I normally - where possible -
   touch
 the Audio button to hear the caller while I carry on
 with whatever I am doing.
 Then a new screen comes up which asks me to make a selection from the
 list:
 iMac Intel
 iPad
 Speaker
 iPhone
 When I touch Speaker,  the caller can be heard.
 Is it possible to adjust some setting so that “Speaker" is the
   default
 ? ?
 Without having to see the other options ?
 Thanks,
 Cheers
 Walter
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Re: [WAMUG] Unable to send videos or MMS

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Oh…. and also.

   Go to Settings/Messages and see if MMS Messaging is turned on.

   On 11 Dec 2023, at 1:54 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

   Hi DJ
   I have an iPhone 12 Mini with 17.1.2
   I just used iMessage to text a video clip to another iPhone.
   No problem … sent and received.
   Perhaps during the last update something in Message settings changed.
   I have had that happen with other updates in the past.
   Sometimes a setting will return to DEFAULT without you changing it.

   On 11 Dec 2023, at 1:43 pm, Jackson, DJ via WAMUG
wrote:

 I recently updated my iPhone to 17.1.2
 And since the update I can’t seem to send videos via iMessage.
 Works in Instagram and other apps BUT constantly fails to send in
 messenger??
 Anyone else experience this
 DJ Jackson
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Re: [WAMUG] Unable to send videos or MMS

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi DJ

   I have an iPhone 12 Mini with 17.1.2

   I just used iMessage to text a video clip to another iPhone.

   No problem … sent and received.

   Perhaps during the last update something in Message settings changed.

   I have had that happen with other updates in the past.

   Sometimes a setting will return to DEFAULT without you changing it.

   On 11 Dec 2023, at 1:43 pm, Jackson, DJ via WAMUG
wrote:

 I recently updated my iPhone to 17.1.2
 And since the update I can’t seem to send videos via iMessage.
 Works in Instagram and other apps BUT constantly fails to send in
 messenger??
 Anyone else experience this
 DJ Jackson
 Desktop Support Officer
  |
 Business Information Systems
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Big slow job.

   Took me several months gradually Robin.

   On 9 Nov 2023, at 10:56 am, Robin Belford via WAMUG
wrote:

   Yes, my plan in the long term is similar.
   The process will be slow though as of the 705 entries, for various web
   sites/organisations etc, in my password manager almost all of them have
   an email address for the username and they do not have a separate field
   in the account profile for a separate contact email address.
   Thus it is problematic if an old username/email address is abandoned
   then the password recovery or even continued usage of that account
   could become very difficult.
   ymmv
   cheers,
   Robin

 On 9 Nov 2023, at 10:31 am, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  wrote:
  Good idea Rod.
  Exactly what I advised my kids and grandkids.
  On 9 Nov 2023, at 8:06 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
   wrote:
Thank you everyone.
I have opted in to The Messaging Company (I think following
 Daniel
  K’s
instructions).
I have changed my “send new mail address" in Apple Mail to
[1]bli...@mac.com
I will also keep my iinet address and review this when TMC decide
 to
start charging.
I guess I have a year to change email address for various
accounts/logins from my iinet one to my mac.com one.
Cheers
Blitto
Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
On 2 Nov 2023, at 6:05 pm, Marcus Harris via WAMUG
 wrote:
As I understand the situation, IINET or WESTNET are the internet
service providers and that won’t change.
One isn’t obliged to use @ iinet or @ westnet.
I haven’t used those addresses for several years and I’m happy
 with
  all
the apple addresses @me @ Mac @ iCloud.
Cheers
Marcus
Marcus Harris
Mobile +61417965618
  On 2 Nov 2023, at 2:56 pm, Peter Crisp via WAMUG
   wrote:
     Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
  understand.
   Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are
  outsourcing
  the
   email management. This was received with big groans. However,
  Westnet
   (and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The
 Messaging
   Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in which
  case
   they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or iinet)
  Mail
   accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you will
 keep
   exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted in as
  making a
   change to a different email address would be a huge
 undertaking
  with
   all the tangles with multiple other subscriptions, providers
 etc
  my
   email address is associated with. Same to for the 4 other
 family
   members in my family. I dug further into this - the first year
 of
  email
   management is free with The Messaging Company and then from
 year
  2,
   they will charge a fee for the email management. If I look at
 my
   Westnet plan, the current email management fee will disappear
 form
  day
   1 after migration and thereafter. I don't know yet how much
 The
   Messaging Company will charge from year 2.
   You can ring the helpline for further details if other
 questions
  or
   there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp
 - Original Message -
   From:
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   To:
 "WAMUG" 
   Cc:
 "Rod Blitvich" 
   Sent:
 Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800
   Subject:
 [WAMUG] Which Email address?
 Hi Folks
 So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
 Please can you suggest which email address should now I use
 as
  my
 primary address?
 I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
 I have the following email addresses:
 rb...@iinet.net.au
 bli...@mac.com
 bli...@icloud.com
 I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
 Thank you
 Rod Blitvich
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Good idea Rod.

   Exactly what I advised my kids and grandkids.

   On 9 Nov 2023, at 8:06 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
wrote:

 Thank you everyone.
 I have opted in to The Messaging Company (I think following Daniel
   K’s
 instructions).
 I have changed my “send new mail address" in Apple Mail to
 [1]bli...@mac.com
 I will also keep my iinet address and review this when TMC decide to
 start charging.
 I guess I have a year to change email address for various
 accounts/logins from my iinet one to my mac.com one.
 Cheers
 Blitto
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 On 2 Nov 2023, at 6:05 pm, Marcus Harris via WAMUG
  wrote:
 As I understand the situation, IINET or WESTNET are the internet
 service providers and that won’t change.
 One isn’t obliged to use @ iinet or @ westnet.
 I haven’t used those addresses for several years and I’m happy with
   all
 the apple addresses @me @ Mac @ iCloud.
 Cheers
 Marcus
 Marcus Harris
 Mobile +61417965618
   On 2 Nov 2023, at 2:56 pm, Peter Crisp via WAMUG
wrote:
      Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
   understand.
Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are
   outsourcing
   the
email management. This was received with big groans. However,
   Westnet
(and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The Messaging
Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in which
   case
they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or iinet)
   Mail
accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you will keep
exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted in as
   making a
change to a different email address would be a huge undertaking
   with
all the tangles with multiple other subscriptions, providers etc
   my
email address is associated with. Same to for the 4 other family
members in my family. I dug further into this - the first year of
   email
management is free with The Messaging Company and then from year
   2,
they will charge a fee for the email management. If I look at my
Westnet plan, the current email management fee will disappear form
   day
1 after migration and thereafter. I don't know yet how much The
Messaging Company will charge from year 2.
You can ring the helpline for further details if other questions
   or
there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
Kind Regards
Peter Crisp
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From:
"WAMUG" 
To:
  "WAMUG" 
Cc:
  "Rod Blitvich" 
Sent:
  Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800
Subject:
  [WAMUG] Which Email address?
  Hi Folks
  So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
  Please can you suggest which email address should now I use as
   my
  primary address?
  I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
  I have the following email addresses:
  rb...@iinet.net.au
  bli...@mac.com
  bli...@icloud.com
  I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
  Thank you
  Rod Blitvich
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Wendy … you have me intrigued.

   Why do you now log in to The Messaging Co ?

   My daughter is with Westnet.

   She simply she followed the steps suggested by Westnet to retain her
   email address

   by the due date and nothing has changed.

   On 4 Nov 2023, at 6:51 pm, Pete via WAMUG 
   wrote:

   Thanks and agreed Robin. Completely frictionless as you say.
   Regards
   Pete

 On 4 Nov 2023, at 6:12 pm, Robin Belford via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi Wendy,
 I’m not sure you have fully understood the minimal effect on the
 user that the transfer of the email hosting of iinet, westnet et.
 al. email services actually entails.
 Now perhaps because you appear to be accessing your email via a web
 browser you are experiencing the dual login dance (it sounds absurd
 to me).
 You could consider using an email client, such as Mail, which comes
 installed on every macintosh and iPhone.
 Using these services I, my wife, and my children have experienced a
 frictionless transition.
 Infact they don’t really know, or care, who is managing their email
 hosting.
 All they care about is continuity of service, which they have
 experienced.
 As for your assertion that third party companies, such as Medibank
 etc. expect you to change your email address is a complete nonsense.
 If that is what you have been told you, have been badly advised.
 You just keep using your westnet/iinet/ address as if nothing has
 happened.
 Regards,
 Robin

 On 4 Nov 2023, at 5:40 pm, wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Yep Peter I agree with your good summary.
 I too have an iinet address (one of their very early customers in
 fact)
 and I did more than groan when I heard they intended to out source
 the
 management of their iinet email customers.
 I did it by the due date and now log in to The Messaging Company
 first;
 this takes me automatically to the familiar iinet screen where I log
 in
 again.
 All is OK;  except many companies eg Medibank assume that ALL iinet
 customers MUST change their address.  Our postman (the one that goes
 around the streets delivering mail) is weighed down by the numbers
 of
 letters this household has received requesting us to let the company
 know of our new email address.  (I exaggerate a bit there!)  What I
 haven't worked out is are these companies responding to some emails
 that bounced? or are they just assuming that all iinet customers
 need
 to change their address.
 It is becoming a real problem;  and very time consuming in trying to
 contact each company to tell them my address is valid.
 Whether or not the Messaging Company will be happy to have all these
 iinet customers after the first year we will just have to wait and
 see..  Along with how much they charge us.
 Best wishes all
 Wendy
 Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located on
 the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.
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 From:
 "WAMUG" 
 To:
   "WAMUG" 
 Cc:
   "Peter Crisp" 
 Sent:
   Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:55:29 +0800
 Subject:
   Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?
   Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
   understand.
   Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are
 outsourcing
   the email management. This was received with big groans. However,
   Westnet (and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The
   Messaging Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in
   which case they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or
   iinet) Mail accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you
   will keep exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted
 in
   as making a change to a different email address would be a huge
   undertaking with all the tangles with multiple other
 subscriptions,
   providers etc my email address is associated with. Same to for the
 4
   other family members in my family. I dug further into this - the
   first
   year of email management is free with The Messaging Company and
 then
   from year 2, they will charge a fee for the email management. If I
   look at my Westnet plan, the current email management fee will
   disappear form day 1 after migration and thereafter. I don't know
   yet
   how much The Messaging Company will charge from year 2.
   You can ring the helpline for further details if other questions
 or
   there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp
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   From: "WAMUG"
   To:"WAMUG"
   Cc:"Rod Blitvich"
   Sent:Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800
   Subject:[WAMUG] Which Email address?
   Hi Folks
   

Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Rod.

   I switched to my Apple address about 18 months ago.

   So if I change providers and don’t have a lot of senders to notify.

   You could use either @mac.com or @icloud.com

   That is the same solution I have suggested to my family.

   On 2 Nov 2023, at 2:13 pm, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hi Folks
 So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
 Please can you suggest which email address should now I use as my
 primary address?
 I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
 I have the following email addresses:
   * rb...@iinet.net.au
   * bli...@mac.com
   * bli...@icloud.com
 I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
 Thank you
 Rod Blitvich
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Re: [WAMUG] Tuesday's meeting

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Tony.

   I assume you have a virus & internet protector in place ?

   If so I suggest you run a full scan.

   It could be your virus protector giving the message.

   If not may I suggest your buy and install BitDefender.

   Then ask it to run a full scan.

   I have been using this for a few years and it has won the BEST award 3
   years running.

   Macs are good at protecting themselves, but NOT foolproof.

   BitDefender has told me a few times that it has detected and removed a
   virus.

   It has also blocked unwelcome entities.

   On 4 Oct 2023, at 9:36 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
wrote:

   Good Morning fellow wamuggers
   It’s been a while and sorry I missed the meeting yesterday, I would
   have liked to learn a little more about AIRDROP.
   My reason for contacting the list today is because I am being bombarded
   with a message that keeps repeating every 5 or so minutes, it shows in
   the top right hand corner of my desktop under the safari logo telling
   me that I have 5 viruses in my system and the name used is VINEGARD ??
   I have tried to find the source as to how this message is activated but
   I can’t find it, the message appears even with the wireless turned off,
   so it’s within my system somewhere.
   Any thoughts guy’s?
   Thanks all, have a great day
   Kind Regards
   Tony Francis
   BODDINGTON
   W.A.

 On 2 Oct 2023, at 15:45, Maureen Smith via WAMUG
  wrote:
  Hello Fellow WAMUGers,
  I learn a lot in meetings.  For instance, did you know that by
 bending
  a paper clip once, you can make a pretty cool ‘S’?
  However, I didn’t learn that in a WAMUG general monthly meeting,
 but I
  have learnt other things.
  Our October general meeting is this Tuesday, 3rd October at 7:30pm.
  Here are the details
  MEETING TOPICS
  1 Available or coming in macOS Sonoma
  2 Airdropping over the internet
  3 Creating a collaborative playlist
  4 A look at a Journal App
  5 iWork apps have added support for USDZ format, which Apple says
  brings "new dimension" to users' documents and presentations "with
 3D
  objects. (Needs Ventura at minimum to work.)
  MEETING AND LOGIN DETAILS
  Date: Tuesday 3RD October
  Time: 07:30 PM (Usually lasts an hour)
  Zoom Meeting Link: [1]https://bit.ly/3rAsIhQ
  Meeting ID: 875 1825 8878
  Passcode:  917609
  If you have problems with the link or prefer to go 'Old School,'
 follow
  these instructions.
* Type [2]zoom.us into your browser's address bar.
* At the login screen, click the Join button. (located on the
 black
  coloured bar, third from the right)
* At the Join Meeting screen, type in the meeting ID included in
 this
  email
* Finally, click Allow on the dialog box shown in your browser.
 If
  you don't see a dialogue, click the Launch Meeting button.
We will be there waiting and looking forward to seeing you.
  Cheers,
  Maureen
 References
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  2. http://zoom.us/
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[WAMUG] Let's try that again .. Epson Cartridges # 410 (NOT # 503)

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks.
 My Epson Printer has died and I have some new cartridges I can no
 longer use.
 They are non-genuine from Ink Station but work fine.
 2 x E-410 PBK Photo Black
 1 x E-410XL BK Black
 1 x E-410XL C Cyan
 2 x E-410XL M Magenta
 2 x E-410XL Y Yellow
 Will sell the lot for $20.00

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[WAMUG] Anyone need Epson Printer Cartridges # 503 ?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks.

   My Epson Printer has died and I have some new cartridges I can no
   longer use.

   They are non-genuine from Ink Station but work fine.

   2 x E-410 PBK Photo Black

   1 x E-410XL BK Black

   1 x E-410XL C Cyan

   2 x E-410XL M Magenta

   2 x E-410XL Y Yellow

   Will sell the lot for $20.00

   Regards
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Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thank you Daniel.

   My daughter is with Westnet, so I will chat to her about this.

   On 1 Aug 2023, at 8:40 pm, Pete Smith via WAMUG
wrote:

 G’day Daniel.
 I saw on Internode’s site today that they have not been hosting new
 email addresses since 20 June or thereabouts but I didn’t see
   anything
 about current ones. Mind you, I wasn’t looking because I was trying
   to
 access my webmail because Mail was stuffing me around yet again.
 Interestingly, I couldn’t access that at the time as well.
 I might ring them tomorrow to check if my problems are in anyway
 concerned with their new system, although my mail works fine from the
 iPhone.
 I’m off hunting now.
 Regards,
 Pete Smith
 On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi All
 An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to be
 honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email from
 iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later on
 perhaps?)
 Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode
   etc)
 have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s
   emails.
 (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email address).
 They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP) are
 apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I can
 gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your
   @isp
 email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen any
 plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99
   per
 email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota would
 be.
 Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the
   email
 address.
 The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the main
 iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all have
   a
 link to information about it.
 https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
 Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company), website's
 is fairly sparse on information.
 Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people. Who
 may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to
   keep
 it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see a
 price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
 addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
 (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that I’ve
 been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
 I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address, so
 definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
 Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free” email
 address like @iCloud.com, @gmail.com etc- then you can change ISPs
 without having to tell everyone your email address has changed.
 (As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at some of
   the
 “email only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan is $60
   a
 year per mailbox)
 Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens with it.
 Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have seen or
 been aware of this. :)
 Kind regards
 Daniel
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[WAMUG] Epson Printer Cartridges for sale

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks.

   My Epson Printer has died and I have some new cartridges I can no
   longer use.

   They are non-genuine from Ink Station but work fine.

   2 x E-410 PBK Photo Black

   1 x E-410XL BK Black

   1 x E-410XL C Cyan

   2 x E-410XL M Magenta

   2 x E-410XL Y Yellow

   Will sell the lot for $40.00
   Regards
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Re: [WAMUG] FTTP and ISPs…not Apple

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Rosemary.

   I have had ongoing issues with Telstra for the past 4 months.

   Promise to fix issues but then fail to do so over and over again.

   I am now on the verge of going to Aussie Broadband.

   They get amazing reviews from customers.

   One review site recently ranked them number 1 in Australia.

   And 2 of my friends are with them and reckon they are the best.

   Their price for my plan is the same as Telstra, so no cost advantage
   there.

   But if I also take both our mobiles to them as well, that is way better
   priced.

   Anyway just thought I would give some more feedback 

   On 12 Jul 2023, at 7:06 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:

   Hi Rosemary
   Without know exact details, but if it’s similar to mine situation
   (which it sounds like it), technically neither side are actually
   “telling lies”.
   When NBNCo have been going through certain areas and doing the FTTP
   upgrades, they only have “some” ISP’s that seem to have early access to
   this “faster NBN”. Whereas iinet/Westnet dont seem to be one of the
   ISP’s with access to these upgrades. So when they look it up, in the
   iinet/Westnet/TPG system, your area probably isn’t available to go
   faster on their network.
   And NBNCo who do say the upgrade is available, in the “small print” -
   it’s only with some ISPs.
   This is the same sort of thing I’ve found. Because I’m signed up to
   NBNCo newsletter and info for my area, I got an email from saying
   “faster internet is available” But iinet tell me,..no I can’t get
   faster internet. So they’re both actually correct. As far as iinet are
   concerned for their “access”,..they can’t offer anything faster. But if
   I go with a different ISP,…then I can actually get faster.
   I just found the email from them,..which says,..
   "Hi Daniel,
   As you have registered for updates, we’d like to let you know that your
   location may be able to upgrade to nbn® Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) if
   you order an nbn powered plan based on nbnHome Fast or higher◊."
   Then a button I click that says “Check out the list of participating
   providers” - which loads this page
   https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/upgrades/more-fibre/find-a-partici
   pating-provider
   And Westnet and iinet (for whatever reason) aren’t listed as a
   participating provider.
   For the time being I’ve stuck with iinet and use their NBN100 plan,….as
   I’ve always felt a bit loyal to them to stay.
   But with some of the newer ISP’s nothing offering better plans (and
   sometimes better pricing), I’ve been weighing it up to change as well.
   I was looking at the Aussie Broadband plans, as they tend to get good
   reviews and always seem to be ranked quite high for reliability, cost,
   service etc.
   (I wouldn’t touch dodo with a barge pole for another example,…lol. Had
   some many customers been with them that had issues and left).
   The one downside to moving obviously is losing your email address. But
   I believe iinet and Westnet still offer an “email only” service. (I
   know they previously had this service,..so I assume they still do.
   Haven’t checked for a while). You used to be able to pay $25 a year to
   keep your email address. So you then don’t have to go round and tell
   everyone your new address and lose access to your email address.
   (I don’t actually really use my @iinet address a lot, but I’d still
   like to keep it if I did change.
   I had considered going to the Aussie Broadband NBN1000 plan,. But it’s
   another $50 a month. So I didn’t really go much further then look and
   dream. lol.
   So as mentioned without knowing “exact” details, that would be my take
   on it anyway.
   The best place I find to see what you’re able to get is the actual
   NBNCo website. As they’re the ones who do or change the infrastructure.
   So normally their information is most up to date.
   If you go to https://www.nbnco.com.au - then put in your address to
   check. It will advise you what you can get on your premises.
   I also think some of the companies are wearing the cost of the “$0
   upgrade cost to upgrade to fibre” - in the hope of perhaps getting new
   customers and building their customer base. And perhaps iinet/Westnet
   didn’t want to wear the extra cost of it. But I’m only guessing there -
   I could be completely wrong.
   Hope something there helps.
   Kind regards
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Re: [WAMUG] iPad WiFi connectivity

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Walter.

   I am guessing here, but maybe turn on Overseas Roaming ?

   On 9 Jun 2023, at 9:52 am, FW via WAMUG 
   wrote:

   Good Morning all,
   I have a question regarding the receiving and sending of emails on the
   iPad.
   In my home LAN I can receive and send emails via WiFi.
   Also when I go somewhere and log into another LAN.
   Overseas I can only receive emails but not send.
   Sometime ago I was told that some mail setting  had to be changed/added
   in order to send emails.
   I can’t remember what it was.
   Anyone has any idea what it is ?
   Thanks,
   cheers
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Re: [WAMUG] iMac periodically dropping off WiFi ?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thanks Peter.

   It was shut down this morning and restarted.

   She usually leaves it always on.

   Yet to see now if it happens again.

   When you say remove from the stack, can it be simply deleted from the
   list in menu bar?

   And how is it reinstated ?

   On 19 Apr 2023, at 3:44 pm, Peter Crisp via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hi Stephen, I've not had this problem but a couple of suggestions.
   Try
 removing the WiFi network from the stack of WiFi networks in the
   stack
 (maybe it only has this one in the stack of one WiFi networks). Then
 reinstate it from fresh.
 Ensure also that it sits as the first network in order of the stack
   of
 networks if you have a stack of other WiFi networks.
 When was the iMac last fully Shutdown?
 Kind Regards
 Peter Crisp
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   Hi folks … this has been happening with my wife’s iMac for about 48
   hours.
   It has dropped off WiFi at least 3 times.
   And I have had to reconnect using the password.
   Anyone know why this might be happening please ?
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[WAMUG] iMac periodically dropping off WiFi ?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks … this has been happening with my wife’s iMac for about 48
   hours.

   It has dropped off WiFi at least 3 times.

   And I have had to reconnect using the password.

   Anyone know why this might be happening please ?

   Mac 21.5 inch late 2012

   3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel i7

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[WAMUG] X-Plane 11 Simulator and Thrustmaster Joystick for sale

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks.

   For anyone interested I have the above Complete DVD set for sale.

   Only ever installed once … brilliant Flight Sim but not used enough for
   me.

   $30.00

   Also the Thrustmaster Joystick for $30.00.

   Or both together for total of $50.00.

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Re: [WAMUG] Corrupt Card.

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   I would be interested to know if it finds your card.

   On 29 Jan 2023, at 11:02 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hi Stephen
 Thank you for your advice, I’ll give it a go. Does the program
   actually
 look for the corrupted Card? The main problem that I am having is
   that
 I can’t locate the card, if the card can’t be located then I can’t
 retrieve the Photo’s.
 Hopefully there is some way of retrieving the photo’s. I wrote to the
 Card Company asking if they could help, I’m still waiting for a
   reply.
 Thank you again Stephen, I’ll let the group know of the results
   either
 way.
 Kind Regards
 Tony
   On 28 Jan 2023, at 4:21 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
wrote:
 
   Hi Tony.
 I downloaded an app called “Picture Rescue 2” a while ago.
 It worked brilliantly to save some image files from a corrupted
   drive.
 I have now used it twice with great success.
 I suggest looking for it and downloading.
 On 28 Jan 2023, at 2:43 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Good Afternoon Members
 I have a Corrupted Compact Flash Card that I am hoping to retrieve
   the
 photo’s from.
 1. I have tried first to have the Computer recognise the Card, no
 success.
 2. I have downloaded a Program called DISKDRILL to enable me to find
 and save the files on the card, to have DISKDRILL save the files I
 first have to have the card available, which is why I’m writing, a
   fair
 while ago I had a similar problem and Ronni Browne helped me locate a
 missing card that wasn’t showing, but I have forgotten what Ronni
   told
 me to do.
 3. I shut down the Computer and then restarted the Computer with the
 Card Reader and Card attached, the Computer when starting wouldn’t go
 any further than showing a Black Screen and the Apple logo, I
 disconnected the Card reader and the Computer then finished the start
 up.
 Is there anything else I could do? I have researched on line but the
 directions are all alike, find the card and then start the recovery
 program, first I have to find the card.
 Thank you
 Kind Regards
 Tony Francis
 Boddington.
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Re: [WAMUG] Corrupt Card.

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   I just opened to to remind myself.

   Upon opening, it finds and lists all internal and external storage
   devices.

   Then you choose the one you want to scan.

   On 29 Jan 2023, at 11:02 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hi Stephen
 Thank you for your advice, I’ll give it a go. Does the program
   actually
 look for the corrupted Card? The main problem that I am having is
   that
 I can’t locate the card, if the card can’t be located then I can’t
 retrieve the Photo’s.
 Hopefully there is some way of retrieving the photo’s. I wrote to the
 Card Company asking if they could help, I’m still waiting for a
   reply.
 Thank you again Stephen, I’ll let the group know of the results
   either
 way.
 Kind Regards
 Tony
   On 28 Jan 2023, at 4:21 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
wrote:
 
   Hi Tony.
 I downloaded an app called “Picture Rescue 2” a while ago.
 It worked brilliantly to save some image files from a corrupted
   drive.
 I have now used it twice with great success.
 I suggest looking for it and downloading.
 On 28 Jan 2023, at 2:43 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Good Afternoon Members
 I have a Corrupted Compact Flash Card that I am hoping to retrieve
   the
 photo’s from.
 1. I have tried first to have the Computer recognise the Card, no
 success.
 2. I have downloaded a Program called DISKDRILL to enable me to find
 and save the files on the card, to have DISKDRILL save the files I
 first have to have the card available, which is why I’m writing, a
   fair
 while ago I had a similar problem and Ronni Browne helped me locate a
 missing card that wasn’t showing, but I have forgotten what Ronni
   told
 me to do.
 3. I shut down the Computer and then restarted the Computer with the
 Card Reader and Card attached, the Computer when starting wouldn’t go
 any further than showing a Black Screen and the Apple logo, I
 disconnected the Card reader and the Computer then finished the start
 up.
 Is there anything else I could do? I have researched on line but the
 directions are all alike, find the card and then start the recovery
 program, first I have to find the card.
 Thank you
 Kind Regards
 Tony Francis
 Boddington.
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Re: [WAMUG] Corrupt Card.

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Tony.

   I downloaded an app called “Picture Rescue 2” a while ago.

   It worked brilliantly to save some image files from a corrupted drive.

   I have now used it twice with great success.

   I suggest looking for it and downloading.

   On 28 Jan 2023, at 2:43 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
wrote:

   Good Afternoon Members
   I have a Corrupted Compact Flash Card that I am hoping to retrieve the
   photo’s from.
   1. I have tried first to have the Computer recognise the Card, no
   success.
   2. I have downloaded a Program called DISKDRILL to enable me to find
   and save the files on the card, to have DISKDRILL save the files I
   first have to have the card available, which is why I’m writing, a fair
   while ago I had a similar problem and Ronni Browne helped me locate a
   missing card that wasn’t showing, but I have forgotten what Ronni told
   me to do.
   3. I shut down the Computer and then restarted the Computer with the
   Card Reader and Card attached, the Computer when starting wouldn’t go
   any further than showing a Black Screen and the Apple logo, I
   disconnected the Card reader and the Computer then finished the start
   up.
   Is there anything else I could do? I have researched on line but the
   directions are all alike, find the card and then start the recovery
   program, first I have to find the card.
   Thank you
   Kind Regards
   Tony Francis
   Boddington.
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[WAMUG] 2023 Subscription

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   Just paid my 2023 Subs using my name as notation.

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Re: [WAMUG] Anyone tried Ventura yet ?

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   Thank you Robin 

   On 28 Oct 2022, at 6:46 am, Robin Belford <[1]rbelf...@highway1.com.au>
   wrote:

   I installed Ventura on Tuesday morning.
   Smooth sailing on the two MacBook Airs in my house, 2020 MBA & 2018
   MBA.
   r

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   Just wondering about any issues before I download ?

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Re: [WAMUG] Connecting iMac to iMac with 5G

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Well done Matt … but don’t know why you are embarrassed.

   This is called persistance.

   And you have helped others with this.

   On 9 Oct 2022, at 10:04 am, Matt Falvey via WAMUG
   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

   Hi, I have been able to work it out, much to my embarrassment, but
   hopefully helpfully to someone in the same situation.
   I restarted all 3 iMacs and I was able to instantly find each one on
   the other.
   Adam sent me an attachment from Brother support as to the proper way to
   configure the printer for the 5G network and that issue is resolved to.
   Thanks
   Matt.

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 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 18:14:18 +0800
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 To: [3]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
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 Hi, I have just joined Telstra 5G to improve my NBN download speed
 from an average of 27 Mbps.
 I normally have 3 iMacs linked via wifi but since I have started
 using the 5G I have been unable to link them up. I normal do so by
 Finder>Go>Connect to Server and then using either the smb of afp
 favorite servers.
 Also I have been unable to get my Brother HL-L2375DW to show up or
 even to link that through any of the 3 iMacs. I have tried using the
 Brother Instalation disc and it can?t find the printer over the
 wifi.
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Re: [WAMUG] Compromised Passwords

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Rod.

   I also use 1Password and have not seen that message yet.

   I updated last night to Safari 16.

   Which App is your password manager ?

   On 14 Sep 2022, at 4:00 pm, Tim Law via WAMUG
   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

   A wise decision Rod :-)I use 1Password which has a similar
   prompt and the task needs to be done each few months.
   Regards
   Tim

 On 14 Sep 2022, at 2:57 pm, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
 <[2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
  Hi Folks
  I just updated Safari to 16.0.
  A while later the passwords window popped up listing a number of my
  stored passwords as “compromised”
  “this password has appeared in a data leak which puts the account
 at
  high risk…”
  I assume I should go ahead and change these passwords? (probably a
 dumb
  question )
  Thanks
  Blitto
  [[3]cid:3320202049_5684508]
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  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Agreed Daniel.

   I got an email about 2 months ago from Telstra offering me a
   “concession” discount of $15 per phone per month.

   I was on $45 for my phone and $45 for my wife’s phone (so $90 per
   month)

   So this would take it down to $30 each.

   Because I had trouble applying online I phoned them.

   Each time i typed in my Pension Number it came to a halt.

   They told me that “concession” only applied to customers on a Disabled
   Pension.

   I pointed out that their email simply stated “concession”.

   I am on an Aged Pension concession card.

   I told them that I would be reporting this to the ACCC.

   So they offered me the $15 discount for 12 months and they changed the
   wording in their promotion.

   So when the 12 months is up I may be looking for an alternative.

   On 10 Sep 2022, at 4:19 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

   Hi Stephen
   Yes when they come up, it’s sometimes worth looking at the “other
   providers” that also use the Telstra network.
   There are actually some good options out there. (We even looked at one
   that was sold through Woolworthes on the Telstra network. They let you
   choose a 10% discount off one shop per month. So we worked out for my
   son’s mobile that we could pretty much get his plan “paid for free” by
   having a large shop one week a month. The discount we saved from the
   shopping more than paid for his monthly mobile account. :)
   There are certainly a lot of them around now.
   Telstra still have good coverage - but they seem to be back to their
   old ways of increasing the plans constantly. It used to be $45 per
   month for our plan - then it went to $55 per month. And now it’s just
   gone up again to $58 per month.
   I keep meaning to look at moving it, as to be honest for what they
   offer compared to the other companies - there’s definitely better value
   out there. And yet still uses the Telstra network which is one of the
   better coverage networks out there. (In my opinion). Their support has
   gotten a bit better too (since they moved it back from overseas),..so
   that’s a bit of a plus as well.
   But for two mobiles (which we use a lot), plus my son’s,..it all adds
   up.
   So definitely worth considering some of the others I think. Well,..in
   my opinion anyway,..hehe.
   A few google searches for things like “Best Mobile provider on Telstra
   network” generally gives some good results - for things like the links
   I had before or
   [2]https://www.reviews.org/au/mobile/best-mobile-providers-on-the-telst
   ra-network/
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  Although Rod.
  Having now taken a look at Boost Mobile.
  The prepaid plans they offer (using the Telstra network) will make
 me
  think when mine comes up for renewal.
  I use about 0.5 MG of data per month, and my wife about the same.
  We are on a special Telstra pensioner plan which has about 10
 months to
  go.
  Both iPhones are on one account for $30.00 per phone per month (so
  $60.00 per month).
  Pretty hard to beat at the moment.
  On 10 Sep 2022, at 3:48 pm, Rod Blitvich <[1][6]rb...@iinet.net.au>
 wrote:
Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen!
  cheers
  Blitto
  
  Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[2][7]rb...@iinet.net.au
  On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  <[3][8]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
Hi Rod.
I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan.
Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion.
Especially as you don’t need the extra GB.
If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM
 over.
If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they
  will
keep you on your current plan.
On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG
<[1][4][9]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not
 sure
about 5G
$20 a month for 10gb I think.
Tim Law
  On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
  <[2][5][10]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Although Rod.

   Having now taken a look at Boost Mobile.

   The prepaid plans they offer (using the Telstra network) will make me
   think when mine comes up for renewal.

   I use about 0.5 MG of data per month, and my wife about the same.

   We are on a special Telstra pensioner plan which has about 10 months to
   go.

   Both iPhones are on one account for $30.00 per phone per month (so
   $60.00 per month).

   Pretty hard to beat at the moment.

   On 10 Sep 2022, at 3:48 pm, Rod Blitvich <[1]rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

 Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen!

   cheers

   Blitto
   
   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 [2]rb...@iinet.net.au

   On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
   <[3]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

 Hi Rod.
 I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan.
 Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion.
 Especially as you don’t need the extra GB.
 If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over.
 If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they
   will
 keep you on your current plan.
 On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG
 <[1][4]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure
 about 5G
 $20 a month for 10gb I think.
 Tim Law
   On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
   <[2][5]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
   Hi Rod
   You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network -
   still
   give good coverage but at a cheaper price -
   This link has some good info as well -
   [3][6]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-netw
   ork
   There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on
   Telstra with 5G
   [7]https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-
   netw
   ork-MVNO-plans
   (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
   I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra
   network and been happy with them.
   Hope that helps.
   Kind regards
   Daniel
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   On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
   <[10]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
   Hi Folks
   I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
   If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to
   stay
   with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
   please?
   My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
   Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per
   month?
   Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40
   GB
   and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
   Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
   OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
   [1][11]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything
   with
   Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
   Many thanks for your advice
   Blitto
   [[12]cid:3320202049_5684508]
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   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Rod.

   I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan.

   Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion.

   Especially as you don’t need the extra GB.

   If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over.

   If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they will
   keep you on your current plan.

   On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG
   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

   Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure
   about 5G
   $20 a month for 10gb I think.
   Tim Law

 On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
 <[2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 Hi Rod
 You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still
 give good coverage but at a cheaper price -
 This link has some good info as well -
 [3]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network
 There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on
 Telstra with 5G
 https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw
 ork-MVNO-plans
 (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
 I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra
 network and been happy with them.
 Hope that helps.
 Kind regards
 Daniel
  Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro 
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 p : 0414 795 960
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 On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi Folks
 I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
 If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay
 with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
 please?
 My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
 Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per
 month?
 Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB
 and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
 Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
 OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
 [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with
 Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
 Many thanks for your advice
 Blitto
 [cid:3320202049_5684508]
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Re: [WAMUG] Two iPhones receiving my SMS replies ?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   So looks like I will remove the Apple ID in that menu.

   Thank you Daniel.

   On 8 Sep 2022, at 11:28 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

   Hi Stephen
   Sorry, may not have written that well.
   On her iPad she would be removing your mobile number, as you mentioned
   she’s getting your texts. So you want to remove the mobile number that
   the texts are *meant* to be what you want to remove.
   Eg if I was doing it on my iPad with no phone number (just an Apple
   ID), would be removing my mobile OFF the iPad in the setting I
   mentioned.
   (Or if no mobile, then the AppleID that the messages are being sent
   to).
   Hope that helps.
   Kind regards
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  Thanks Daniel.
  I went looking for that but her iPad has no phone number.
  So her only option is the Apple ID … that is my issue.
  On 7 Sep 2022, at 11:11 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
  <[1][5]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
  Hi Stephen
  Yes, if you’re using the same AppleID that would be why,
  You can disable it by the following…
  On your wife’s iPad go to Settings - Messages.
  Tap on “Send & Receive”. You’ll see a list od AppleID’s and phone
  numbers. Untick the phone number you don’t want her to receive them
 on.
  (In the top section)
  This will then remove it from the “list of replies”.
  That should then resolve it.
  Kind regards
  Daniel
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<[4][8]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 Hi folks.
 When I send an SMS from my iPhone 13 to anyone else with an
 iPhone
my
 wife also receives the reply on her iPad.
 I am guessing this is because we use the same Apple ID for all
 our
 devices and these go as iMessages.
 Is there any way of stopping this without changing the Apple ID
 ?
 Regards
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Re: [WAMUG] Two iPhones receiving my SMS replies ?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thanks Daniel.

   I went looking for that but her iPad has no phone number.

   So her only option is the Apple ID … that is my issue.

   On 7 Sep 2022, at 11:11 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

   Hi Stephen
   Yes, if you’re using the same AppleID that would be why,
   You can disable it by the following…
   On your wife’s iPad go to Settings - Messages.
   Tap on “Send & Receive”. You’ll see a list od AppleID’s and phone
   numbers. Untick the phone number you don’t want her to receive them on.
   (In the top section)
   This will then remove it from the “list of replies”.
   That should then resolve it.
   Kind regards
   Daniel
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  Hi folks.
  When I send an SMS from my iPhone 13 to anyone else with an iPhone
 my
  wife also receives the reply on her iPad.
  I am guessing this is because we use the same Apple ID for all our
  devices and these go as iMessages.
  Is there any way of stopping this without changing the Apple ID ?
  Regards
  Stephen Chape
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[WAMUG] Two iPhones receiving my SMS replies ?

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks.

   When I send an SMS from my iPhone 13 to anyone else with an iPhone my
   wife also receives the reply on her iPad.

   I am guessing this is because we use the same Apple ID for all our
   devices and these go as iMessages.

   Is there any way of stopping this without changing the Apple ID ?
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