Re: Safari 4 problem
Thanks Daniel and Ronni You were right, by updating Safari 4 to 4.0.1 the problem was resolved Cheers John On 19/06/2009, at 8:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Mike, Did you install the Security Update 2009-002 that was released through Software Update awhile back? If you have you can go here download Safari 4.0.1 http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/safari.html Cheers, Ronni On 19/06/2009, at 7:24 AM, Mike Fuller wrote: Hi Ronni Software Update doesn't bring up Safari 4.01 for me (currently running Safari 4.0 in Tiger). I suspect it's because I don't have iPhoto '09, which won't run in Tiger, although the Safari update is supposedly for Tiger and Leopard. The update is supposed to address issues between Safari and iPhoto '09. And I can still log onto both my banks - Westpac and Police Nurses credit. Cheers Mike Fuller On 19/06/2009, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi John, Run Software Update, Safari 4.0.1 update will be there ready to download install. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
I had a brief problem logging into my ISP. Deleting all the relevant old cookies did the trick. Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Safari 4 problem
Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John Hi John Safari 4.0.1 just came out today/tonight, so try downloading the new version and see if that makes a difference. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
Thanks Daniel I can't find this update on the Apple site. Can you help? John On 18/06/2009, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John Hi John Safari 4.0.1 just came out today/tonight, so try downloading the new version and see if that makes a difference. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
Hi John You just download it from here:- http://www.apple.com/au/safari/download/ It says 4 but when you download it, it's 4.0.1. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 18/6/09 10:01 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks Daniel I can't find this update on the Apple site. Can you help? John On 18/06/2009, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John Hi John Safari 4.0.1 just came out today/tonight, so try downloading the new version and see if that makes a difference. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
Hi John, Run Software Update, Safari 4.0.1 update will be there ready to download install. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 18/06/2009, at 10:07 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi John You just download it from here:- http://www.apple.com/au/safari/download/ It says 4 but when you download it, it's 4.0.1. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 18/6/09 10:01 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks Daniel I can't find this update on the Apple site. Can you help? John On 18/06/2009, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John Hi John Safari 4.0.1 just came out today/tonight, so try downloading the new version and see if that makes a difference. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
Hi Ronni Software Update doesn't bring up Safari 4.01 for me (currently running Safari 4.0 in Tiger). I suspect it's because I don't have iPhoto '09, which won't run in Tiger, although the Safari update is supposedly for Tiger and Leopard. The update is supposed to address issues between Safari and iPhoto '09. And I can still log onto both my banks - Westpac and Police Nurses credit. Cheers Mike Fuller On 19/06/2009, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi John, Run Software Update, Safari 4.0.1 update will be there ready to download install. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
On 18/06/2009, at 9:30 PM, John Daniels wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John Login to NAB and Bank of Queensland both working fine here. Currently Safari 4.0.1, but also worked in 4.0. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
Hi Mike, Did you install the Security Update 2009-002 that was released through Software Update awhile back? If you have you can go here download Safari 4.0.1 http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/safari.html Cheers, Ronni On 19/06/2009, at 7:24 AM, Mike Fuller wrote: Hi Ronni Software Update doesn't bring up Safari 4.01 for me (currently running Safari 4.0 in Tiger). I suspect it's because I don't have iPhoto '09, which won't run in Tiger, although the Safari update is supposedly for Tiger and Leopard. The update is supposed to address issues between Safari and iPhoto '09. And I can still log onto both my banks - Westpac and Police Nurses credit. Cheers Mike Fuller On 19/06/2009, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi John, Run Software Update, Safari 4.0.1 update will be there ready to download install. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, John Daniels jdani...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4 problem
i just installed safari4 on tiger bendigo log on was fine, java has to updated i think James On 18/06/2009, at 21:30, John Daniels wrote: Hi Wamuggers Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank sites. I can input account number and password but the box to click labelled log on does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up windows are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 11/06/2009, at 11:48 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Any chance you're running LazyMouse? There has been all sorts of issues with Add Ons / Plugins not being updated to handle Safari 4. No ,I'm not running LazyMouse (not even familiar with that one). THe key ones are 1Password and Cooliris. 1Password was updated for Safari 4 on 8 June. Cooliris I'm not so sure about, but it seems to work OK. There are several obscure ones which have been installed by various apps at different times which I'll weed through on the weekend. None of them are causing obvious problems in other areas, however. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 11/06/2009, at 3:22 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 11/06/2009, at 11:48 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Any chance you're running LazyMouse? There has been all sorts of issues with Add Ons / Plugins not being updated to handle Safari 4. No ,I'm not running LazyMouse (not even familiar with that one). THe key ones are 1Password and Cooliris. 1Password was updated for Safari 4 on 8 June. Cooliris I'm not so sure about, but it seems to work OK. There are several obscure ones which have been installed by various apps at different times which I'll weed through on the weekend. None of them are causing obvious problems in other areas, however. Hi Peter, Could be Cooliris ... it on the list ;-) Some 3rd party items upsetting Safari 4 include: Cooliris Glims SAFT SafariAdBlock SpeedDownload SafariStand SIMBL CosmoPod SafariCookies TastyAppsAVPlugin Video Box Plugin HDLibraryInputManagers folder or Applications SupportSIMBLPlugins folder or HomeLibrary(same locations above) Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 11/6/09 8:32 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: I have set the default font for Safari to be Tahoma 12, but the Apple page seems to be displayed in something else. The fact that I get the same thing happening on both the iMac and the Macbook Pro, and I have identical settings for Safari on both, tends to support this line of thinking. Hi Peter You say you're using a different font. Did you try resetting it back to the default font, or even a different font to see if that makes a difference? If you're using the same font on both laptop and iMac, then it would be same. I've also seen some problems where a font corrupts and does some weird things on certain sites but works fine on other sites. By removing all the fonts and putting them back in in small lots, we found the corruption/conflict and it all worked properly again. Worth a try? :o) (When you have time,..hehe.) :o) See how you go with that. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Safari 4 Top Tabs
Where did the Safari 4 Beta top tabs go? I thought they were clever. Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 11/06/2009, at 3:56 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 11/06/2009, at 3:22 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 11/06/2009, at 11:48 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Any chance you're running LazyMouse? There has been all sorts of issues with Add Ons / Plugins not being updated to handle Safari 4. No ,I'm not running LazyMouse (not even familiar with that one). THe key ones are 1Password and Cooliris. 1Password was updated for Safari 4 on 8 June. Cooliris I'm not so sure about, but it seems to work OK. There are several obscure ones which have been installed by various apps at different times which I'll weed through on the weekend. None of them are causing obvious problems in other areas, however. Hi Peter, Could be Cooliris ... it on the list ;-) Some 3rd party items upsetting Safari 4 include: Cooliris Glims SAFT SafariAdBlock SpeedDownload SafariStand SIMBL CosmoPod SafariCookies TastyAppsAVPlugin Video Box Plugin Out of that list I have CoolIris and CosmoPod. Video Box declared itself with 20.5.7 update, and although it's not on the list, I have also dumped Inquisitor (which wasn't working properly anyway). CosmoPod can go, but I'll be sorry to lose CoolIris if that proves to be a contributor. I must add that I'm not having these issues with other sites AFAIK, just the Apple Store, so it's not a huge problem. I'd just like to know what's going on. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Fwd: Safari 4
Hi, Ronni and all Another new change in the public release is that browser crashes caused by plug-ins like Flash are now sandboxed. If Flash or Shockwave crash, only that plug-in will be affected. The page that it's on will continue to function, and you can reactivate the plug-in by reloading the page. Unfortunately this feature is only available in Snow Leopard's Version of Safari 4. See Here: WWDC 2009: Bertrand Serlet - Safari 4 in Snow Leopard http://gmug.org.au/Apple/WWDC.2009.Bertrand.Serlet.Safari.4.Snow.Leopard.mov -- Regards Kyle -- Kyle Kreusch - Webmaster, (GMUG) Ambassador This e-mail was Dictated Using Dragon NaturallySpeaking 9 (GMUG) - Geraldton Macintosh User Group Website: http://www.gmug.org.au/ E-mail: webmas...@gmug.org.au Direct E-mail:k...@gmug.org.au - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 10/06/2009, at 11:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Safari. A similar screen shot to yours here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522085 You don't have any plugins that might be interfering? Do you have plenty of RAM? Could it be your Network, have you tried on another Network? I have read this regarding Safari 4: • If your computer has less than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 104,857 bytes. * If your computer has more than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 209,715 bytes. * JPEGs, at least, are temporarily cached in RAM. Whew. But upon browser restart, you’ll see they didn’t make it to the disk cache, so you have to get them again. * Other objects, like SWFs or videos, though, don’t even make it to the RAM cache, let alone disk. Load the same SWF back-to-back, and you’ve just transferred the bytes twice. Ugh. I'm sure it's not a RAM issue. I have 3Gb in my iMac and 2Gb in my Macbook Pro. I'm certain it is a CSS rendering issue, and it could be something to do with font size. According to to the information in the Web Inspector, the font size of the elements containing the iPhone images is 11 pt, but I can't find the type face specs. I have set the default font for Safari to be Tahoma 12, but the Apple page seems to be displayed in something else. The fact that I get the same thing happening on both the iMac and the Macbook Pro, and I have identical settings for Safari on both, tends to support this line of thinking. I'll keep looking when I get more time. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 11/06/2009, at 8:32 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/06/2009, at 11:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Safari. A similar screen shot to yours here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522085 You don't have any plugins that might be interfering? Do you have plenty of RAM? Could it be your Network, have you tried on another Network? I have read this regarding Safari 4: • If your computer has less than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 104,857 bytes. * If your computer has more than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 209,715 bytes. * JPEGs, at least, are temporarily cached in RAM. Whew. But upon browser restart, you’ll see they didn’t make it to the disk cache, so you have to get them again. * Other objects, like SWFs or videos, though, don’t even make it to the RAM cache, let alone disk. Load the same SWF back-to-back, and you’ve just transferred the bytes twice. Ugh. I'm sure it's not a RAM issue. I have 3Gb in my iMac and 2Gb in my Macbook Pro. I'm certain it is a CSS rendering issue, and it could be something to do with font size. According to to the information in the Web Inspector, the font size of the elements containing the iPhone images is 11 pt, but I can't find the type face specs. I have set the default font for Safari to be Tahoma 12, but the Apple page seems to be displayed in something else. The fact that I get the same thing happening on both the iMac and the Macbook Pro, and I have identical settings for Safari on both, tends to support this line of thinking. Hi Peter, If it is a CSS rendering issue, why does the page load perfectly on my MacBook Pro? There is an article here referring to a Bug The issue seems to be a CSS (Cascading Style Sheet) problem. http://www.macdiscussion.com/article_show.php3?article_id_var=273 Just for the experiment ... have you tried Disabling JavaScript in Safari preferences - Security (or under the Develop Menu) just to see if it corrects the page. However, many sites require javascript, so you will have to Enable it again! Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 11/06/2009, at 9:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, If it is a CSS rendering issue, why does the page load perfectly on my MacBook Pro? Similarly, why does it display the same way on both my iMac and my Macbook Pro? The telling thing is that as the page loads the placement of the iPhone elements starts out correctly, but changes at the last moment. This smacks of CSS, not Javascript. I am prepared to accept that there may be some plugin responsible, but that particular process of elimination is going to wait for another day. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 11/06/2009, at 11:20 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 11/06/2009, at 9:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, If it is a CSS rendering issue, why does the page load perfectly on my MacBook Pro? Similarly, why does it display the same way on both my iMac and my Macbook Pro? The telling thing is that as the page loads the placement of the iPhone elements starts out correctly, but changes at the last moment. This smacks of CSS, not Javascript. I am prepared to accept that there may be some plugin responsible, but that particular process of elimination is going to wait for another day. -- Any chance you're running LazyMouse? There has been all sorts of issues with Add Ons / Plugins not being updated to handle Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Safari 4
I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Ronda, Thanks. It works when you go there first and then go to other parts of the Apple site. Regards Tony On 09/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Hi Ruben, Firstly it is FAST ... really fast on an Intel MacBook Pro! Safari 4.0 has almost 50 security fixes, both in the browser and WebKit. Lots of potential security holes plugged. One major change to the interface from the beta involves tabs. In the beta, Apple experimented with a Chrome-style tabs-on-top that it has abandoned in the public release. The font for the tabs was often hard to read, and made Safari look excessively like Chrome. The new tab style now looks much like the old tab style. Cover Flow is now available as a graphic way to browse your bookmarks and history, however, if you've got a somewhat older computer you still won't be able to use any of these graphics improvements. Another new change in the public release is that browser crashes caused by plug-ins like Flash are now sandboxed. If Flash or Shockwave crash, only that plug-in will be affected. The page that it's on will continue to function, and you can reactivate the plug-in by reloading the page. Safari 4 is also the first non-beta browser to fully complete the Acid3 Web standards compliance test. http://acid3.acidtests.org/ The URL bar does feature smart surfing, but only for including your history and bookmarks--much like Internet Explorer. Chrome and Firefox remain the only browsers to default to Google's feeling lucky style of searching from the location bar. There are system files in the OS X System folders changed by the Safari 4 install (that's why there is a restart of the computer). Apple's big claim with Safari is that it's the fastest browser on the market, and from latest results around the Internet ... Apple just might be correct. 150 features http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. Cheers, Ronni On 09/06/2009, at 4:05 PM, Dark1 wrote: Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Hi Ronni Thanks for all the info. Some of those features are already present in the beta version but it certainly looks like it's still worth upgrading. I'm running a 2.66GHz (Overclocked to 3.8GHz) Nehalem Quad Core Hackintosh so there's certainly no problems with my computer not being fast enough to get all the bells and whistles. Ruben Hi Ruben, Firstly it is FAST ... really fast on an Intel MacBook Pro! Safari 4.0 has almost 50 security fixes, both in the browser and WebKit. Lots of potential security holes plugged. One major change to the interface from the beta involves tabs. In the beta, Apple experimented with a Chrome-style tabs-on-top that it has abandoned in the public release. The font for the tabs was often hard to read, and made Safari look excessively like Chrome. The new tab style now looks much like the old tab style. Cover Flow is now available as a graphic way to browse your bookmarks and history, however, if you've got a somewhat older computer you still won't be able to use any of these graphics improvements. Another new change in the public release is that browser crashes caused by plug-ins like Flash are now sandboxed. If Flash or Shockwave crash, only that plug-in will be affected. The page that it's on will continue to function, and you can reactivate the plug-in by reloading the page. Safari 4 is also the first non-beta browser to fully complete the Acid3 Web standards compliance test. http://acid3.acidtests.org/ The URL bar does feature smart surfing, but only for including your history and bookmarks--much like Internet Explorer. Chrome and Firefox remain the only browsers to default to Google's feeling lucky style of searching from the location bar. There are system files in the OS X System folders changed by the Safari 4 install (that's why there is a restart of the computer). Apple's big claim with Safari is that it's the fastest browser on the market, and from latest results around the Internet ... Apple just might be correct. 150 features http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. Cheers, Ronni On 09/06/2009, at 4:05 PM, Dark1 wrote: Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Upgraded from the beta to Safari 4 using the automated installer on an iMac 24 with 10.5.7. No issues at all with update. It does seem to be even faster than the beta (which was fast). So worth the upgrade. Glenn Nicholas 2009/6/9 Dark1 da...@iinet.net.au: Hi Ronni Thanks for all the info. Some of those features are already present in the beta version but it certainly looks like it's still worth upgrading. I'm running a 2.66GHz (Overclocked to 3.8GHz) Nehalem Quad Core Hackintosh so there's certainly no problems with my computer not being fast enough to get all the bells and whistles. Ruben Hi Ruben, Firstly it is FAST ... really fast on an Intel MacBook Pro! Safari 4.0 has almost 50 security fixes, both in the browser and WebKit. Lots of potential security holes plugged. One major change to the interface from the beta involves tabs. In the beta, Apple experimented with a Chrome-style tabs-on-top that it has abandoned in the public release. The font for the tabs was often hard to read, and made Safari look excessively like Chrome. The new tab style now looks much like the old tab style. Cover Flow is now available as a graphic way to browse your bookmarks and history, however, if you've got a somewhat older computer you still won't be able to use any of these graphics improvements. Another new change in the public release is that browser crashes caused by plug-ins like Flash are now sandboxed. If Flash or Shockwave crash, only that plug-in will be affected. The page that it's on will continue to function, and you can reactivate the plug-in by reloading the page. Safari 4 is also the first non-beta browser to fully complete the Acid3 Web standards compliance test. http://acid3.acidtests.org/ The URL bar does feature smart surfing, but only for including your history and bookmarks--much like Internet Explorer. Chrome and Firefox remain the only browsers to default to Google's feeling lucky style of searching from the location bar. There are system files in the OS X System folders changed by the Safari 4 install (that's why there is a restart of the computer). Apple's big claim with Safari is that it's the fastest browser on the market, and from latest results around the Internet ... Apple just might be correct. 150 features http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. Cheers, Ronni On 09/06/2009, at 4:05 PM, Dark1 wrote: Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 09/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni Likewisw on my iMac 24. The layout of the screen looks a bit weird, though, with the two iPhones at the top of the centre panel, arranged one above the other, and the rest below them. Looks the same both on my iMac and my Macbook Pro, so I guess it's intentional. Just looks Wrong. Is this everyone's experience? -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 09/06/2009, at 5:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. I was hoping they would but the Snapback feature back in. It was the one feature which absolutely separated it from all the other browsers for me. Now, not so much. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 10/06/2009, at 8:29 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 09/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni Likewisw on my iMac 24. The layout of the screen looks a bit weird, though, with the two iPhones at the top of the centre panel, arranged one above the other, and the rest below them. Looks the same both on my iMac and my Macbook Pro, so I guess it's intentional. Just looks Wrong. Is this everyone's experience? -- Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 10/06/2009, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni Yes, please. I'd like to see that. If you show me yours I'll show you mine :-) -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 10/06/2009, at 8:51 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/06/2009, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni Yes, please. I'd like to see that. If you show me yours I'll show you mine :-) Hi Peter, Well, yours certainly does look like mine ;-) I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Safari. A similar screen shot to yours here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522085 You don't have any plugins that might be interfering? Do you have plenty of RAM? Could it be your Network, have you tried on another Network? I have read this regarding Safari 4: • If your computer has less than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 104,857 bytes. * If your computer has more than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 209,715 bytes. * JPEGs, at least, are temporarily cached in RAM. Whew. But upon browser restart, you’ll see they didn’t make it to the disk cache, so you have to get them again. * Other objects, like SWFs or videos, though, don’t even make it to the RAM cache, let alone disk. Load the same SWF back-to-back, and you’ve just transferred the bytes twice. Ugh. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Sorry Peter, I meant yours certainly does NOT look like mine ;-) I just arrived back in my office and rushed the email off to you Ronni On 10/06/2009, at 11:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 10/06/2009, at 8:51 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/06/2009, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni Yes, please. I'd like to see that. If you show me yours I'll show you mine :-) Hi Peter, Well, yours certainly does look like mine ;-) I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Safari. A similar screen shot to yours here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522085 You don't have any plugins that might be interfering? Do you have plenty of RAM? Could it be your Network, have you tried on another Network? I have read this regarding Safari 4: • If your computer has less than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 104,857 bytes. * If your computer has more than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 209,715 bytes. * JPEGs, at least, are temporarily cached in RAM. Whew. But upon browser restart, you’ll see they didn’t make it to the disk cache, so you have to get them again. * Other objects, like SWFs or videos, though, don’t even make it to the RAM cache, let alone disk. Load the same SWF back-to-back, and you’ve just transferred the bytes twice. Ugh. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Glims and Safari 4
Thanks Kyle. I shall try it. On Sat 87 Mar,, at 4:31 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Peter From Glims Website This build is an overall improvement of our engines, and fixes a number of Safari 4 beta compatibility issues. Full release notes are available on our weblog post. http://www.machangout.com/node/22 Kyle Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA The Apple Religion: Geek Orthodox -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Glims and Safari 4
Anyone using Glims and Safari 4 beta? I vaguely remember some reports of a conflict but can not recall any details. I have never used Glims previously but thought I would give it a try. It is now up to v1.0 build15. Appreciate any road test reports. Thanks Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA The Apple Religion: Geek Orthodox -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Glims and Safari 4
Hi Peter From Glims Website This build is an overall improvement of our engines, and fixes a number of Safari 4 beta compatibility issues. Full release notes are available on our weblog post. http://www.machangout.com/node/22 Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
I'm starting to really like the Top Site feature. Very cool. Taking a bit to get used to the tabs being up the top though. Travis 2009/3/25 Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au Despite my reticence where beta versions are concerned the ongoing discussion tempted me to try out Safari4. It certainly is a noticeablee speed increase on v3 and works fine on all my regular sites including Wespac and BankWest. Can't comment on the other goodies(?) just yet. I will stick with it. Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
The Top Site feature is really good when you've configured it to hold position on the sites you use alot. Everyone seems to not like the tabs up top at first but love it after a few days using it. Ruben I'm starting to really like the Top Site feature. Very cool. Taking a bit to get used to the tabs being up the top though. Travis 2009/3/25 Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au Despite my reticence where beta versions are concerned the ongoing discussion tempted me to try out Safari4. It certainly is a noticeablee speed increase on v3 and works fine on all my regular sites including Wespac and BankWest. Can't comment on the other goodies(?) just yet. I will stick with it. Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Safari 4
Good Morning, I have a Mac OS X 10.5.6. I am not sure if I should download Safari 4 and if I do would it import my bookmarks? Are there contraindications for someone who has only very basic knowledge? I suspect Miss Cloe could teach me a thing or two! I'd be grateful for any advice. Regards, Jennifer -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 25/03/2009, at 11:37 AM, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote: Good Morning, I have a Mac OS X 10.5.6. I am not sure if I should download Safari 4 and if I do would it import my bookmarks? Are there contraindications for someone who has only very basic knowledge? I suspect Miss Cloe could teach me a thing or two! I'd be grateful for any advice. Regards, Jennifer Hello Jennifer, Are you currently using Safari 3? If so, make sure all security updates etc are installed, then download Safari 4 http://www.apple.com/safari/what-is.html The downloaded disk image of Safari 4 includes an uninstaller. Keep a copy of this in a safe place. If it turns out you don't like Safari 4, the uninstaller will automatically revert you to your previous version of Safari. All your settings, bookmarks etc will be preserved. Cheers, Ronni Miss Cloe -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
I installed 10.5.6 on my G4 last week and then downloaded safari 4. It has imported my bookmarks and the browser works wonderfully! On 25/03/2009, at 11:37 AM, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote: Good Morning, I have a Mac OS X 10.5.6. I am not sure if I should download Safari 4 and if I do would it import my bookmarks? Are there contraindications for someone who has only very basic knowledge? I suspect Miss Cloe could teach me a thing or two! I'd be grateful for any advice. Regards, Jennifer -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
I have been using Safari 4 without any problems. Wendy Mauritius Island On 25/03/2009, at 7:37 AM, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote: Good Morning, I have a Mac OS X 10.5.6. I am not sure if I should download Safari 4 and if I do would it import my bookmarks? Are there contraindications for someone who has only very basic knowledge? I suspect Miss Cloe could teach me a thing or two! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Thank you all very much for the advice and you, Ronnie, for the extra information. I am using Safari 3.2.1 and have downloaded the general Apple security updates. Fitz, our cat, was particularly thrilled to have email from Miss Cloe and is out boasting about it I suspect. regards, Jennifer On 25/03/2009, at 12:01 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 25/03/2009, at 11:37 AM, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote: Good Morning, I have a Mac OS X 10.5.6. I am not sure if I should download Safari 4 and if I do would it import my bookmarks? Are there contraindications for someone who has only very basic knowledge? I suspect Miss Cloe could teach me a thing or two! I'd be grateful for any advice. Regards, Jennifer Hello Jennifer, Are you currently using Safari 3? If so, make sure all security updates etc are installed, then download Safari 4 http://www.apple.com/safari/what-is.html The downloaded disk image of Safari 4 includes an uninstaller. Keep a copy of this in a safe place. If it turns out you don't like Safari 4, the uninstaller will automatically revert you to your previous version of Safari. All your settings, bookmarks etc will be preserved. Cheers, Ronni Miss Cloe -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Safari 4
Despite my reticence where beta versions are concerned the ongoing discussion tempted me to try out Safari4. It certainly is a noticeablee speed increase on v3 and works fine on all my regular sites including Wespac and BankWest. Can't comment on the other goodies(?) just yet. I will stick with it. Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: My Mac, Apple Mail, Safari, 4 Worms and even 4 Trojans: Yikes!
On 25/03/06, Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is weird because two of the mailboxes - Deleted Messages and Junk have nothing in them. Could the boxes themselves be carrying the virus? Not yet. Here are the mailbox details from ClamXav log: /Users/rwhitely/Library/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Deleted Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND ...etc... I suspect the above .mbox files must be somehow left over from Panther (no longer used in Tiger)? If so, I'd guess you can just delete them manually in the Finder. The other four were in .zip files in User/Library/Caches/Java Applets/ cache/javapi/v1.0/jar I have absolutely no idea what they are except to say that there are I guess you have visited websites which have these Java viruses embedded in them. Although the method of exploitation is Windows-specific in this instace, Java is of course also installed on your Mac (including Intel Macs). Make sure you are up-to-date with your Apple Updates and, if you like, you can disable Java (not JavaScript) in your browser preferences (to prevent these items from being downloaded). Of course, some people may require Java for intranet or banking applications. James.
Re: My Mac, Apple Mail, Safari, 4 Worms and even 4 Trojans: Yikes!
Thanks James. The problem is solved. On 26 Mar 2006, at 9:38am, James Devenish wrote: Here are the mailbox details from ClamXav log: /Users/rwhitely/Library/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Deleted Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND ...etc... I suspect the above .mbox files must be somehow left over from Panther (no longer used in Tiger)? If so, I'd guess you can just delete them manually in the Finder. I deleted the mbox files from Inbox and Sent Items, and deleted all the Java caches and re-run ClamXav and no viruses turned up. Thanks. It's now clean as a Mac! The other four were in .zip files in User/Library/Caches/Java Applets/ cache/javapi/v1.0/jar I have absolutely no idea what they are except to say that there are I guess you have visited websites which have these Java viruses embedded in them. Although the method of exploitation is Windows-specific in this instace, Java is of course also installed on your Mac (including Intel Macs). Make sure you are up-to-date with your Apple Updates and, if you like, you can disable Java (not JavaScript) in your browser preferences (to prevent these items from being downloaded). Of course, some people may require Java for intranet or banking applications. I'll leave Java turned on and check again with clamXav maybe next week and see what's going on - if anything. That's sneaky, embedding viruses in a website. Interestingly I searched VersionTracker for another virus checker to confirm what my program was saying. I found Virus Out. Has anyone used it? It had me tricked but I think it's a game. April 1st coming up? http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/28529 regards Reg
My Mac, Apple Mail, Safari, 4 Worms and even 4 Trojans: Yikes!
Hi All WAMUGgers I've just run ClamXav Virus Checker http://www.clamxav.com/ on my PowerBook and it tells me I have 8 files with viruses, all in my User/Library. I'm running OS X 10.4.5. Four are in Apple Mail mailboxes, and ClamXav suggests I sort through the mail messages and delete any suspicious ones. I've done that now - a timely purge indeed and surely needed anyway. I've also rebuilt the mailboxes. Running ClamXav a second time it tells me I still have the infected files. That is weird because two of the mailboxes - Deleted Messages and Junk have nothing in them. Could the boxes themselves be carrying the virus? Is it safe to leave them there as presumably they won't affect the Mac anyway? Should I delete the boxes? If I do that, can I successfully create new ones to take their places? That seems a bit drastic, like cutting off a leg then sewing a new one on again. Here are the mailbox details from ClamXav log: /Users/rwhitely/Library/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Deleted Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND /Users/rwhitely/Library/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ INBOX.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND /Users/rwhitely/Library/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Junk.mbox/ mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND /Users/rwhitely/Library/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Sent Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND The other four were in .zip files in User/Library/Caches/Java Applets/ cache/javapi/v1.0/jar I have absolutely no idea what they are except to say that there are a lot more .zip and similar .idx files (eg: ar.jar-25da0aca-4df682f8.idx) I've taken the four offending files out and put in a folder on the desktop. Is it safe to delete them? what do they do anyway? Here are the offending files as listed in the log: /Users/rwhitely/Library/Caches/Java Applets/cache/javapi/v1.0/jar/ ar.jar-25da0aca-4df682f8.zip: Java.ClassLoader.24564 FOUND /Users/rwhitely/Library/Caches/Java Applets/cache/javapi/v1.0/jar/ arc.jar-de5e35e-32180aa1.zip: Java.ClassLoader.24564 FOUND /Users/rwhitely/Library/Caches/Java Applets/cache/javapi/v1.0/jar/ classload.jar-7958a4de-5b57002b.zip: Java.ClassLoader.24564 FOUND /Users/rwhitely/Library/Caches/Java Applets/cache/javapi/v1.0/jar/ javainstaller.jar-3cc46f89-53d178a7.zip: Java.Downloader.OpenStream.A FOUND A Google search of 24564 (http://www.cyber.com/alerts.php? order=start_j) reveals that it was discovered on 2004-07-06, is Java/ClassLoader. 24564 and is Virus/Infected File with Blue Status: Blue – Low This is the most common threat type. Essentially the virus has been identified in the wild and does very little damage or is not capable of spreading by itself. Many threats that fall into this category are Trojans, Macro Viruses, or Spyware. They are easily contained and removed from an infected system. It is always a good idea to keep your definitions up to date to prevent these minor inconveniences from happening to you. Threats of this type may also extract personal information so they should still be taken seriously. Another (http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/trojclsldrd.html) says : Name: Troj/Clsldr-D Type: Trojan How it spreads: Web browsing Affected operating systems: Windows Side effects: Downloads code from the internet Aliases: Exploit-ByteVerify Java.ClassLoader.24564 Protection available since 22 June 2005 20:17:42 (GMT) Included in our products from August 2005 (3.96) I think I should delete those little ones! Any advice welcome please. Regards Reg
Re: My Mac, Apple Mail, Safari, 4 Worms and even 4 Trojans: Yikes!
Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just run ClamXav Virus Checker http://www.clamxav.com/ on my PowerBook Any particular reason? Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND INBOX.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND Affects Windows only. Name: Troj/Clsldr-D Affected operating systems: Windows Affects Windows only. Any advice welcome please. I won't advise you; my preferred method of not agonising about Windows malware in deleted mailboxes and caches is not to run a Windows-malware detector. YMMV. Lara
Re: My Mac, Apple Mail, Safari, 4 Worms and even 4 Trojans: Yikes!
Hi Lara Thank you for your response. Yes, there are reasons, and I'm not paranoid. I'm asking for advice to get rid of these things. Below I've copied a response to another respondee explaining my reasons. Regards Reg On 25 Mar 2006, at 4:37pm, Lara wrote: Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just run ClamXav Virus Checker http://www.clamxav.com/ on my PowerBook Any particular reason? Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND Affects Windows only. Name: Troj/Clsldr-D Affected operating systems: Windows Affects Windows only. Any advice welcome please. I won't advise you; my preferred method of not agonising about Windows malware in deleted mailboxes and caches is not to run a Windows- malware detector. YMMV. I have Virex and think it's useless. ClamXav comes free with good reviews. From its own website it is defined as ClamXav is a free virus checker for Mac OS X. It uses the tried, tested and very popular ClamAV open source antivirus engine as a back end. www.clamxav.com/ It doesn't claim to rid the virus, just to alert you to it and give advice on its removal. That's why I'm asking for advice. There are about 142 000 viruses, trojans, worms etc for Windows but only about 4 for Mac OS X, so I consider I'm generally safe too, as you do, but not necessarily my friends and colleagues who use Windows. These two viruses that ClamXav has found on my PowerBook have the potential to infect and destroy their computers. No matter what I might personally think about Windows, I do not wish to destroy their computers. That would be a gross breach of trust. Just imagine if you needed to check your Maced email using a friend's Windows PC (I think of my daughter here, who has such a beast, and whose computer I sometimes need to use). In addition I have VirtualPC with Win XP and all Microsoft Office installed on my PowerBook so I could destroy that drive simply by transferring a file through the shared drive. Your comment reminds me of this: I owned VWs for many years, being a very active member of the VW Club of WA in my youth. That's going back to the late 1960s to the mid '70s. We did some serious state rally driving in those little bug-shaped, rear engined beasts - 100mph in a tricked up rally beetle through the West Aussie jarrah and karri forests actually wasn't for the feint hearted. However, an air cooled VW motor, running at full stress in the WA heat did tend to heat up a lot, somewhat understated, even with bigger oil coolers. Our best prevention? Disconnect the oil pressure warning light and gauges. We knew whenever we stopped at the end of a special stage that the light would flash on and off, or even stay on, and the gauge would sit on 0psi, as the engine temp was *HOT* and the oil was thin! By disconnecting the lights and gauges we weren't distracted! Somehow our engines survived. I'm not sure how. Ignorance was bliss. May your tail always hang out! Reg
Re: My Mac, Apple Mail, Safari, 4 Worms and even 4 Trojans: Yikes!
Hi Reg, I read your email with great interest. I too had VWs for many years and still miss those reliable air-cooled engines! In fact I sold my last VW in 2002 and did not have the courage to see the buyer take my trusted Camper Van leave my drive-way. I have also come to the conclusion that Virex, good as it was in the past, has not kept with the times. Although I have been able to update my Virex dat files, I now have ClaxXav and use it as my prime anti-viral application. Sorry, but cannot advise you with regards to the infected files and folders. My knowledge in this field is very limited. I hope someone will be able to give you some appropriate advice. Oh, yes it is a good idea to ensure one's outgoing mail is clean. All the best and kind regards, Philippe on 25/3/06 7:15 PM, Reg Whitely at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lara Thank you for your response. Yes, there are reasons, and I'm not paranoid. I'm asking for advice to get rid of these things. Below I've copied a response to another respondee explaining my reasons. Regards Reg On 25 Mar 2006, at 4:37pm, Lara wrote: Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just run ClamXav Virus Checker http://www.clamxav.com/ on my PowerBook Any particular reason? Messages.mbox/mbox: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND Affects Windows only. Name: Troj/Clsldr-D Affected operating systems: Windows Affects Windows only. Any advice welcome please. I won't advise you; my preferred method of not agonising about Windows malware in deleted mailboxes and caches is not to run a Windows- malware detector. YMMV.
