[wdvltalk] Re: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-23 Thread Jan Major
Ok, what a mess this thread has become. Sorry I got it all mixed up. Jan = Cheryl D. Wise wrote: Jan, The Chamber site isn't mine I'd do it quite differently especially in the site organization. It is one I've been asked to make suggestions to approve. As far as

[wdvltalk] Re: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-23 Thread sherry young
Sorry Cheryl, I should have changed the subject. S. Cheryl D. Wise wrote: Jan, Thanks for taking a look especially since the thread on the mail list got hijacked by Sherry's question. • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Trusz, Andrew
A fine example of the question of why standards. On the one hand the page renders in Opera, Mozilla and IE. But the code is a mess: no opening html but 2 /html tags, spans which close but never open. Deprecated font and b all over the place. Table elements with a wide array of varying attributes.

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Okay, time for another one of my world famous dopey questions: What does it mean for a tag to be deprected? I've heard this term many times before and have been hoping to figure it out through contextual cues. I've met with a stunning lack of success using this approach so it's time to ask

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread J.R. Pitts
render it to be considered standard That's my interpretation, so w3c.org for a better one. J.R. -Original Message- From: sherry young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Trusz, Andrew
: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce Okay, time for another one of my world famous dopey questions: What does it mean for a tag to be deprected? I've heard this term many times before and have been hoping to figure it out

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Do you think there's a list on the w3c site of deprecated tags? Seems as if there should be... Do you suppose I would find it under the term deprecated tags? If the b tag is going to go the way of the dodo bird, how do I make a one-line break? stops to kick self smartly I *know* someone (one of

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Sherry, If the b tag is going to go the way of the dodo bird ...only in the latest versions of HTML. If you stick with an HTML 3.2 or 4.01 doctype, you can use b all you like (and CSS as well, if you like). Golden rule for choosing a doctype: Use the earliest version that meets your

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Oh lord, Jon, I'm so flattered you think I'm adept enough to even select a version. Well, maybe I did in a sort of a way. At least I tried to make things legal or commonly accepted. I used DW 3.0 which (one would hope) has selected a version for the user although one would also hope they would

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Du-uh. The cold must be affecting my brain. I did, of course, mean the br tag. Not deprecated? Phew. mops brow Thank you. S. J.R. Pitts wrote: Well, first, the b tag is for bold. And it is not necessarily deprecated. The br is the line break, and it is NOT deprecated. Not sure if there is

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Mark Groen
Content-type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary=Alt-Boundary-1888.5526563 --Alt-Boundary-1888.5526563 On January 22, 2003 at 10:47, sherry young wrote: Do you think there's a list on the w3c site of deprecated tags? Seems as if there should be... Do you suppose I would find it under the term

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Mark Groen
On January 22, 2003 at 10:47, sherry young wrote: Do you think there's a list on the w3c site of deprecated tags? Seems as if there should be... Do you suppose I would find it under the term deprecated tags? Ooops, the OBJECT element is not deprecated, rather that is the preffered

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce - tags

2003-01-22 Thread Alida Saxon
/Authoring/Languages/XML/XHTML/dif.html Hope that helps, Ali - Original Message - From: sherry young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce Do you think there's a list on the w3c site

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Mark, Thank you, Mark. Very helpful. Phew. The only one (I think) I've used is the font tag and I know I can replace that by using CSS and H1, H2, etc. tags. I'm working on drumming up my nerve to redoing the site with CSS. In that vein, I do have a question: Can I do that conversion a page at

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Gerenday, Perry (P.)
The Duck Lady wrote: :: If the b tag is going to go the way of the dodo bird, how :: do I make a one-line :: break? stops to kick self smartly I *know* someone (one :: of the Cheryls???) :: just told me this recently but I seem to have misfiled it. :: I was *sure* I'd ::

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce - tags

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Ali, I'm actually quite good about closing my tags, if I do say so myself. It fits right into my obsessive nature. Also, it's something that requires absolutely no talent or brains just, well, obsessiveness. In short, it's something even I can do so I cling to it as a drowning man to a life

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Perry, Well you've just answered another of my dopey questions. Alas, I'd already sent it out before I read your response. Yeah, br IS a standalone tag. I know that when I use it but hadn't pieced it together when I thought of it in a more academic fashion. So, bold is replaced by strong in

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Mark Groen
On January 22, 2003 at 11:17, sherry young wrote: In that vein, I do have a question: Can I do that conversion a page at a time? In other words, could I write a style sheet (using the three--I think--css commands legal for NN4.7X) for one page without having to risk screwing up the entire

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi J.R., The br is the line break, and it is NOT deprecated. It's gone for good in XHTML 2 - instead of doing 'Twas brillig, and the slithy tovesbr Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:br All mimsy were the borogroves,br And the mome raths outgrabe.br You'll be doing lBeware the

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce - tags

2003-01-22 Thread Alida Saxon
Ali, I'm actually quite good about closing my tags, if I do say so myself. It fits right into my obsessive nature. Also, it's something that requires absolutely no talent or brains just, well, obsessiveness. In short, it's something even I can do so I cling to it as a drowning man to a life

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread Trusz, Andrew
night, gracie./p /div /body /html Yes, they validate. drew -Original Message- From: sherry young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce Mark, Thank you, Mark. Very helpful

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Bless you. S. Mark Groen wrote: On January 22, 2003 at 11:17, sherry young wrote: In that vein, I do have a question: Can I do that conversion a page at a time? In other words, could I write a style sheet (using the three--I think--css commands legal for NN4.7X) for one page without

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread J.R. Pitts
] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce Hi J.R., The br is the line break, and it is NOT deprecated. It's gone for good in XHTML 2 - instead of doing 'Twas brillig, and the slithy tovesbr Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:br All mimsy were the borogroves,br And the mome

[wdvltalk] RE: Site critique - Chamber of Commerce

2003-01-22 Thread sherry young
Thanks for the referral to the classes. My understanding is there are only three tags I can use with NN 4.7X and that's a good place to start. I'm filing your e-mail in the new css folder I just created in my e-mail. Sherry Trusz, Andrew wrote: The point is tags like fontdircenter band even b