Hello,
its sad that so many of us had to leave early on Friday so that we
couldn't be in that picture.
Just an idea related to that: The member info pages Pascal proposed
could also work for individuals. Instead of a company logo, people
could add their mug shot..er portrait picture if they
On 22/08/2006, at 2:23 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Hi there,
On 15/08/2006, at 2:06 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
Reading up on this a bit more, I note that generics are
implemented, not by changing the JVM, but by 'type erasure'. The
upside of this is that programs using genericity are able to run
On 22 Aug 2006, at 06:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have a strong preference myself, but since Pascal has taken
the initiative to design a community web site (which is very nice,
btw) and is offering to help run the CMS, I think he should be able
to choose which one we use. So
Hi !You can also addcharacter-set-server=utf8to your my.cnfor change the content of /usr/local/mysql/support-files/mysql.serverto something like thiscase "$mode" in 'start') # Start daemon if test -x $bindir/mysqld_safe then # Give extra arguments to mysqld with the my.cnf file.
On 22 Aug 2006, at 10:04, Yann Bizeul wrote:
My advice is that if we don't use WO to host the web site, we can
use anything completely unrelated to WO, choosing a solution based
on administration simplicity and accessibility, no matter it is a
step backward technologicaly speaking.
The
Thanks to you both Timo and ChuckYou were right, I was in the wrong direction and it was far far easier to use project wonder for that purpose (though I loved the KVC thing with @localize)The ERXSession and its ERXLocalizer was set up in 5min and works just like I dreamed :-)Since it seems that
On 22 Aug 2006, at 09:56, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote:
Yes, but theoretically, Apple could support and develop WebObjects
(the Java code) without directly supporting or developing any
tools for development with WebObjects.
Or, they could be so nice to implement the tools in Swing,
Hello mbj,
That would force us to collaborate from the very beginning (while
better avoiding the trap of reproducing WO resource sites already
available).
I say we use Wonder 3 heavily for this (and document it as we use it).
If you and others volunteer for this, all the better. That would be
Hi All
I notice a lot of activity to get a WO site up.
Was there some announcement at the WDC about dropping WO or something
- has Apple discontinued support etc..
Gino
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Gino L. Pacitti Base Enterprise UK
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since the WO dev tools are now deprecated, and since Apple advises not to
develop WO apps with them, is there any point in using Apple Development tools
to build WO apps? I'm not a big eclipse/wolips fan, but I suppose I don't have
too many choices now, eh?
And, WO (Deployment) is not included
Since the WO dev tools are now deprecated, and since Apple advises
not to develop WO apps with them, is there any point in using Apple
Development tools to build WO apps? I'm not a big eclipse/wolips
fan, but I suppose I don't have too many choices now, eh?
Deprecated != Gone. Use what you
On Aug 21, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 21, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote:
On Aug 21, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 21, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote:
Actually I,m using the EOFetchSpecification constructor that pass
that
I agree with Johan, but I think we should create a website that is a
collection of simple / elegant / graceful mini projects. It would be
cool to make each page have a download the source link with the
complete code for the mini project.
My suggested technical requirements:
(1) Fast
(2)
Hola
On Aug 22, 2006, at 0:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:14:43 -0400
From: Pascal Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WO Community Web site
To: WO Dev-Apple webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
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Hola Florijan!
Yes, but theoretically, Apple could support and develop WebObjects
(the Java code) without directly supporting or developing any tools
for development with WebObjects.
Or they just drop it, like you say, and we have to start using third
party solutions. But that would be a bit
On Aug 22, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Chris * wrote:
No, it's always the default target, named after the project.
The project is in a standard directory, containing
a .woa, .xcodeproj and various main-files.
Is there a space in the path?
I'm sorry, but what exactly do you mean by fully qualified
There has been a lot of talk over the last few days about how we
should be using WO-based tools for our WO sites. While I don't think
it is really all *that* important, obviously some do. So I would
think there would be some interest out there.
Could you set up a demo copy that we could
Moin,I need some help for a new feature of WOLips.How do I get the Component from an error?For instance from the wod:foo: WOString {} [2006-08-22 19:43:39 CEST] WorkerThread0 com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOComponentRequestHandler: Exception occurred while handling
Hi!
I'm using EOGenerator to generate my classes from the model.
Today, I found out that EOGenerator generates accessors using the
trusted key/value operations, like:
public String address() {
return (String)storedValueForKey(address);
}
public void
Le 06-08-22 à 04:04, Yann Bizeul a écrit :
My advice is that if we don't use WO to host the web site, we can
use anything completely unrelated to WO, choosing a solution based
on administration simplicity and accessibility, no matter it is a
step backward technologicaly speaking.
Hi!
Ok, tried takeValueForKey on setAddress and obviously got a stack
overflow (takeValueForKey actually calls setAddress!).
Is there any decent way to make a setter that DOES validation (ie,
without having to do takeStoredValueForKey( validateXPTO(value),
XPTO )?
Yours
Miguel
Hello,
wodev had been absorbed by wikipedia (which I consider a nice move),
so let us do a non-encyclopaedic wiki; just an informal one which
announce to us the running projects' status, with their respective
links.
Janine just started such a page here...
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Ricardo Strausz wrote:
wodev had been absorbed by wikipedia (which I consider a nice
move), so let us do a non-encyclopaedic wiki; just an informal one
which announce to us the running projects' status, with their
respective links.
That was the idea behind
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Marc Oesch wrote:
Janine just started such a page here...
Thanks - we posted this at the same time. :)
I just want to repeat that wishes are not turned into reality by
magic, so it would be best if the various proponents become promoters
and start working on
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Actually, I think writing a new WO app for the community site will
not be hard. For a start, we only need an admin with textarea
boxes with TinyMCE to update the pages. It's cheap, but it can be
done really fast.
If you're thinking
Le 06-08-22 à 14:13, Ricardo Strausz a écrit :
Hola!
(sorry for the cross-posting, but I wanted to start using the new
list... being sure most of you are not subscribed (yet?))
I had just read a massage which suggest that we should not do the
currently discussed WO site...
If you are
On 22 Aug 2006, at 18:27, Ricardo Strausz wrote:
I think that it is idiotic to drop CocoaEOF Apps, and they seem to
doing so...
Tool-envy is a bad thing.
Cheers
--mbj
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Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
Because there continues to be discussion on the list about
GVC.SiteMaker and WO web-publishing apps, and how they compare, I
thought that I would provide a link to this presentation:
http://sitemaker.umich.edu/maybaum/files/usc-sitemaker.pdf
I think that this provides a bit more insight
Hola janine,
I know about that page... indeed, i wrote there my current project some
days ago... just after you, I think ;^)
I'd just wanted to emphasise the differences, IHO, from the current
effort and the previous ones...
and the importance of not trying to re-do what is already done...
But that is a nice demonstration of our planning technique. :-)
Chuck
On Aug 21, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Joe Little wrote:
its sad that so many of us had to leave early on Friday so that we
couldn't be in that picture.
On 8/21/06, Pascal Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's faster to do a
On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Fabrice Pipart wrote:
Thanks to you both Timo and Chuck
You were right, I was in the wrong direction and it was far far
easier to use project wonder for that purpose (though I loved the
KVC thing with @localize)
The ERXSession and its ERXLocalizer was set up
Am 22.08.2006 um 22:04 schrieb Chuck Hill:
It is not supposed to. validateAddress is intended to be called
_before_ setAddress is called. Right, wrong, or weird, that is how
EOF is intended to work. Objects are permitted to be invalid and
validity is checked during saveChanges().
On Aug 22, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote:
Actually I,m using the EOFetchSpecification constructor that
pass that parameter:
public EOFetchSpecification(String entityName,
EOQualifier qualifier,
NSArray sortOrderings,
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Michael Warner wrote:
I found this post to be one of the most spot on. Senior WO
developers have stepped up on the list, post WWDC 2006. That is
both praiseworthy and
reassuring. Yet the fact remains that apart from the important
issues of lack of marketing
On Aug 22, 2006, at 10:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There has been a lot of talk over the last few days about how we
should be using WO-based tools for our WO sites. While I don't
think it is really all *that* important, obviously some do. So I
would think there would be some
Am 22.08.2006 um 22:26 schrieb Mike Schrag:
I am not sure really. Kieran had a Quick Start on his blog, not
sure if I can still find it. This is a complaint that people
often have about Wonder: there is not much in the way of
documentation on how to get started and how to use it and
Anyone else developing a Java Client app notice that Interface
Builder crashes whenever you try to change anything related to an
editing context or display group?
If I drag and drop an entity from EOModeler to IB, it usually gives
me an infinite spinning beach ball and also freezes XCode
On Aug 22, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 22.08.2006 um 22:26 schrieb Mike Schrag:
I am not sure really. Kieran had a Quick Start on his blog, not
sure if I can still find it. This is a complaint that people
often have about Wonder: there is not much in the way of
I have just updated the Wonder/Quickstart page to include some
pointers from David Teran on what JavaDocs to read in order to begin
to use Wonder.
David
On 22 Aug 2006, at 1:26 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?
title=Programming:WebObjects#Project_WONDER
Still
On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 22, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote:
Actually I,m using the EOFetchSpecification constructor that pass
that parameter:
public EOFetchSpecification(String entityName,
EOQualifier qualifier,
Hi All
opensource wo cms.
so whose gonna send in the first schema?
heck here goes:
ContentFolder (Hierarchical) -- ContentFolder2Content - Content
- ContentItems - ContentItems2Assets - Asset - AssetData
AssetFolder (Hierarchical) - AssetFolder2Asset - Asset -
AssetData
basic Asset
Hi, Ricardo,
Heh, Dino's comment sounds more like tool pride than tool envy. I've
also been generally proud of Apple's WO tools and I also hate to see
support dropped.
I particularly hate to see it since I wasn't able to attend WWDC this
year and didn't hear Apple's take on how support
Just my 2c worth.
Why make it so complex? Why not have the basic unit being a Page,
with all Pages having an optional parent, thus making a navigable
hierarchy as deep as you want to go? Each Page has its own
HTMLcontent, and Apache rewrite rules can be used to access them
using URLs
Hello -
I am using a D2WQuery component in my app and I was wondering how to
customize is look. It seems to be referencing WOLQueryPage so I
copied that into my project renamed it SGWOLQueryPage and extended
WOLQueryPage.
Now how do I get my app to recognize it over D2WQuery?
thanks
Hi, David Anjo,
First, Anjo and gang, thanks for Project Wonder (PW)! I address the
comment to Anjo because he tends to remain the most vocal PW
champion. My thanks go to you all.
I feel obliged to include that in every comment I make about PW
because it is an incredible code base.
Hi Jerry,First, Anjo and gang, thanks for Project Wonder (PW)! I address the comment to Anjo because he tends to remain the most vocal PW champion. My thanks go to you all.+1I am actually in the same boat as you. You caught me just trying to follow David Teran's advice and get the Wonder source
James,
Hi. I believe the easiest way to do so is like so:
(task = 'query') = Priority: 100
Class: com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment
Key: pageName
Value: SGWOLQueryPage
This is the mechanism
On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
So now that I've gotten the rant out of my system, I will try to
offer one to two hours per day for the next several days (years) to
supplement the PW ERExtensions JavaDocs and the ERExtensions wiki
page if anyone on the PW team will
Just updated and added the non-Eclipse way to build the javadocs to the Wonder/Quickstart.On 22 Aug 2006, at 4:17 PM, David Holt wrote:What I would do is follow the advice in Kieran's blog:Additionally if you want to generate latest java API documentation from the source, you can...Using
Travis -
Good to see you are around still.
That didn't work. I am using the drop-in component not the page
component. I did peruse all the rules I could find and I could not
find where it references the WOQuery component. Still brings up the
apple's standard component and not mine.
Any
Hi Jerry,
I'll try to answer this really long post, even though it's full of
words like trepidation (eech!) and it's totally late here.
Am 23.08.2006 um 00:59 schrieb Jerry W. Walker:
I'm now (finally) using Project Wonder primarily because a client
wants AJAX features and PR seems to
Which is why I think that Bill Bumgarner was totally wrong last
year: Wonder *is* exactly for beginners. You may have problems, or
you may not understand 5% or it. But it contains 99% of what you
will build for yourself if left on your own, only that it works.
I very much agree with this.
On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Which is why I think that Bill Bumgarner was totally wrong last
year: Wonder *is* exactly for beginners. You may have problems, or
you may not understand 5% or it. But it contains 99% of what you
will build for yourself if left on your own,
On 22/08/2006, at 6:53 PM, Tonny Staunsbrink wrote:
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Ian Joyner wrote:
On 22/08/2006, at 2:23 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Hi there,
On 15/08/2006, at 2:06 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
Reading up on this a bit more, I note that generics are
implemented, not by changing
Hi Doug,
On 17/08/2006, at 12:07 AM, Doug Andrews wrote:
I am having a difficult time converting an existing rpc style web
service to a document style web service.
Never tried it...we're using RPC. But having just read up on it, this
sound like something worth pursuing for our app.
I
Hi Ryan,
I'm using IB with Xcode all the time, have dragged entities from
EOModeler to IB, but not had these problems. (I skipped 2.2, went
straight from 2.1/5.2.4 to 2.3/5.3.1 and now 2.4/5.3.2). Did you try
2.4 on a clean machine, maybe there are problems with other files in
2.2. Also
Am 23.08.2006 um 02:51 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
That may very well be. But you can't have it both ways - either
it's for beginners, and therefore needs documenting, or it's for
gurus and doesn't.
Huh? Where does the both ways come from?
I said (and meant):
- you will have problems if
Thanks, James. I'm sorry to hear that didn't work for you. I built
a simple application and it did work for me. Maybe you can share a
little more of your bindings?
When you use a dropin component, it does nothing more than use a
WOSwitchComponent and lets the D2W rule engine determine
Yeah, the plan being that nothing interesting ever happens on Friday
morning :) NOT!
On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
But that is a nice demonstration of our planning technique. :-)
Chuck
On Aug 21, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Joe Little wrote:
its sad that so many of us had
On 23/08/2006, at 6:20 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Michael Warner wrote:
I found this post to be one of the most spot on. Senior WO
developers have stepped up on the list, post WWDC 2006. That is
both praiseworthy and
reassuring. Yet the fact remains that apart
Hi, Anjo,
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Hi Jerry,
I'll try to answer this really long post, even though it's full of
words like trepidation (eech!) and it's totally late here.
Aw, c'mon, Anjo, just Google for it, you can find lots of
definitions. Do you expect me to
On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
PS: what really would be nice would be some ComponentElementTrous
clone, but given the sheer amount of components and combinations,
that's proably not in the cards.
All right, now you've
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To: WebObjects-Dev Apple
In my never ending (but started just last week) quest to spread WO
graffiti throughout the world, I've just taken it upon myself to
update the Usage section of the Apache entry in Wikipedia.
THE APACHE ENTRY
Before:
Apache is redistributed as part of various proprietary packages, such
as
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
In my never ending (but started just last week) quest to spread WO
graffiti throughout the world, I've just taken it upon myself to
update the Usage section of the Apache entry in Wikipedia.
THE APACHE ENTRY
Before:
Apache is
On 23/08/2006, at 10:12 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 23.08.2006 um 00:59 schrieb Jerry W. Walker:
they will save me that time and effort and make PW even more
available to the newbies (like me) who haven't yet bought into
Eclipse. The easy answer, of course, is for me to just take the
On 23/08/2006, at 6:20 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Michael Warner wrote:
I found this post to be one of the most spot on. Senior WO
developers have stepped up on the list, post WWDC 2006. That is
both praiseworthy and
reassuring. Yet the fact remains that apart
In my never ending (but started just last week) quest to spread WO graffiti
throughout the world
Coincidently, I was on a similar vendetta for the past hours :)
My aim was to start two simple marketing pages.
One geared towards decision makers/customers...
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:13:22 +1000
To: WebObjects-Dev Apple
On 23/08/2006, at 5:24 AM, Jonathan Maybaum wrote:
Because there continues to be discussion on the list about
GVC.SiteMaker and WO web-publishing apps, and how they compare, I
thought that I would provide a link to this presentation:
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