[libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
Hi Christian, Takashi, Italo et al: Le 2011-05-27 17:28, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-05-27 10:52, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : Not unless you choose the higher quality 1600x or 1900x PNG that is suggested. Florian suggested this size as many magazines had asked for screenshots when we released v.3.3.2 . Just large screenshots will not help magazines. They need images with a high optical resolution, a high density, a high dpi, this doesn't mean a screenshot window should be 1900pixel wide on a regular user's desktop. Just having a large screenshot doesn't improve quality at all, it rather makes qualiy worse, as it has to be scaled down to fit, and then you cannot read the text anymore. Unless someone else suggests anything else, I am hoping that all screen shots will be taken at the higher resolution so that we have them ready for any requests from magazines. No, this won't help. Have them in a resolution (size, dimensions) that you can display on a regular user's screen without scaling. For this the 1000x750 are fine, as those with 1024x768 can display it just fine (in the browser with slight scrolling maybe), but only very few can display a 1600xwhatever screenshot without scrolling around or shrinking it. Again: regular monitors/screenshot have a density/resolution of somewhat between 72dpi and 100dpi - for high-quality printing you would need at least 300dpi So unless you reconfigure your X-server to use a higher (virtual) dpi than the default, using a "larger screenshot" will not help at all. (the larger screenshot will show the very same image, not more content) there is no point to use larger ones. ciao Chrisitan Thanks Christian OK, so we'll have the screenshots done: * For website use: 1000x750 at 72 dpi for fast loads * For print ready: 1000x750 at 300 dpi or should we have them done in 600dpi for higher resolution printing? We should decide on a size and dpi setting and make note of it on the wiki so that we don't have to go over this again at the next version update. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] [Proposal] A central employment-office-like web structure for LibO volunteers
This is a huge idea and I can see ways that it would be applicable to any large opensource project. I know of several people who would be helping out if they could do it without first getting into the party and learning who is who. 11. There should be some feedback from somebody or a team of people who can let the volunteer worker know if they are doing the task right, and some way to check an item complete. Something like a project oversight board to ok a change. Wolf On May 27, 2011 5:40 PM, "Andrea Pescetti" wrote: > On 23/05/2011 Gianluca Turconi wrote: >> since few days I'm discussing a proposal about the creation of a >> employment-office-like collaboration tool for LibO volunteers. Here is my >> original proposal: >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOfficeWiki/Proposed#Central_Employment-office-like_Web_Structure_for_LibreOffice_Volunteers > > It's a very interesting proposal, but I find it still too unspecified to > start assessing tools (nobody wants lengthy discussions) or building > broken-but-you-get-the-idea prototypes and castrating the project due to > the constraints of a semi-random tool choice. > > These are the first 10 items that, after reading all related discussions > I got exposed to in all mailing lists, I believe should be included in > the proposal before thinking about tools or prototypes: > > 1) The site must be fun to use. Not easy to use: FUN to use. It's a site > for hundreds of people, not for the few that are highly committed and > would contribute even without it. This must be priority #1 in design. > > 2) Success should not depend on developers using this site. LibreOffice > developers, rightfully, oppose everything that could hinder their > productivity, and reserve to choose their tools. There's plenty of > non-developers tasks and the site could now really focus on these only. > > 3) The site must provide Faceted search for tasks: one can progressively > narrow down the results to find all tasks needing knowledge of Italian > and less than a day and easy-medium difficulty, by clicking suitable > values on the "Language", "Duration" and "Difficulty" panels. In images: > http://www.lucidimagination.com/files/image/articles/faceting/CNET_faceted_search.jpg > (just found with a search engine, I'm not affiliated with that site). > > 4) It shouldn't be necessary to register; optimally, the site would just > use cookies like bit.ly does, at least for the first session. > > 5) Cooperating should be rewarding; not (or not only) money as specified > in the proposal, but bonus points that allow to identify the best > contributors (may conflict with 4, but there could be some hybrid way, > i.e., asking for an e-mail account and "registering" users this way, by > sending them an e-mail in background). > > 6) The site must support free tagging: if the Italian community wants to > post a series of tasks tagged "libo34it", they should be able to do it. > > 7) There must be an interface to clone an existing task. Optimally, to > clone a series of existing tasks. I envision Italo having to clone all > the "Translate LibreOffice 3.3.3 Release Notes to Italian/French/German" > tasks to the corresponding 3.3.4 ones with one click. > > 8) Links should be easy to refer and use, like > http://SITENAME.libreoffice.org/task/308 > http://SITENAME.libreoffice.org/tasks/308+313+318+323 > http://SITENAME.libreoffice.org/tag/libo34it > so that people could refer to "task 308" and link to it easily. > > 9) Upon marking a task completed, the system should select the closest > ones and propose them as further work. Like YouTube, if you wish. > > 10) The site must be based on Free Software infrastructure, and this is > not really a limit since there are plenty of systems allowing your > requirements and my requirements. > > Sorry if I made a step backwards and brought the discussion back to > specifications, but before assessing tools I think a clearer vision is > needed: as I wrote, this is not an ordinary site for specialists but an > inclusive platform for the masses, and it needs extra care in planning; > if you don't think so, just go on with prototypes, no problem. > > Regards, > Andrea. > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] [Proposal] A central employment-office-like web structure for LibO volunteers
On 23/05/2011 Gianluca Turconi wrote: > since few days I'm discussing a proposal about the creation of a > employment-office-like collaboration tool for LibO volunteers. Here is my > original proposal: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOfficeWiki/Proposed#Central_Employment-office-like_Web_Structure_for_LibreOffice_Volunteers It's a very interesting proposal, but I find it still too unspecified to start assessing tools (nobody wants lengthy discussions) or building broken-but-you-get-the-idea prototypes and castrating the project due to the constraints of a semi-random tool choice. These are the first 10 items that, after reading all related discussions I got exposed to in all mailing lists, I believe should be included in the proposal before thinking about tools or prototypes: 1) The site must be fun to use. Not easy to use: FUN to use. It's a site for hundreds of people, not for the few that are highly committed and would contribute even without it. This must be priority #1 in design. 2) Success should not depend on developers using this site. LibreOffice developers, rightfully, oppose everything that could hinder their productivity, and reserve to choose their tools. There's plenty of non-developers tasks and the site could now really focus on these only. 3) The site must provide Faceted search for tasks: one can progressively narrow down the results to find all tasks needing knowledge of Italian and less than a day and easy-medium difficulty, by clicking suitable values on the "Language", "Duration" and "Difficulty" panels. In images: http://www.lucidimagination.com/files/image/articles/faceting/CNET_faceted_search.jpg (just found with a search engine, I'm not affiliated with that site). 4) It shouldn't be necessary to register; optimally, the site would just use cookies like bit.ly does, at least for the first session. 5) Cooperating should be rewarding; not (or not only) money as specified in the proposal, but bonus points that allow to identify the best contributors (may conflict with 4, but there could be some hybrid way, i.e., asking for an e-mail account and "registering" users this way, by sending them an e-mail in background). 6) The site must support free tagging: if the Italian community wants to post a series of tasks tagged "libo34it", they should be able to do it. 7) There must be an interface to clone an existing task. Optimally, to clone a series of existing tasks. I envision Italo having to clone all the "Translate LibreOffice 3.3.3 Release Notes to Italian/French/German" tasks to the corresponding 3.3.4 ones with one click. 8) Links should be easy to refer and use, like http://SITENAME.libreoffice.org/task/308 http://SITENAME.libreoffice.org/tasks/308+313+318+323 http://SITENAME.libreoffice.org/tag/libo34it so that people could refer to "task 308" and link to it easily. 9) Upon marking a task completed, the system should select the closest ones and propose them as further work. Like YouTube, if you wish. 10) The site must be based on Free Software infrastructure, and this is not really a limit since there are plenty of systems allowing your requirements and my requirements. Sorry if I made a step backwards and brought the discussion back to specifications, but before assessing tools I think a clearer vision is needed: as I wrote, this is not an ordinary site for specialists but an inclusive platform for the masses, and it needs extra care in planning; if you don't think so, just go on with prototypes, no problem. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
Hi *, On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2011-05-27 10:52, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : > Not unless you choose the higher quality 1600x or 1900x PNG that is > suggested. Florian suggested this size as many magazines had asked for > screenshots when we released v.3.3.2 . Just large screenshots will not help magazines. They need images with a high optical resolution, a high density, a high dpi, this doesn't mean a screenshot window should be 1900pixel wide on a regular user's desktop. Just having a large screenshot doesn't improve quality at all, it rather makes qualiy worse, as it has to be scaled down to fit, and then you cannot read the text anymore. > Unless someone else suggests anything else, I am hoping that all screen > shots will be taken at the higher resolution so that we have them ready for > any requests from magazines. No, this won't help. Have them in a resolution (size, dimensions) that you can display on a regular user's screen without scaling. For this the 1000x750 are fine, as those with 1024x768 can display it just fine (in the browser with slight scrolling maybe), but only very few can display a 1600xwhatever screenshot without scrolling around or shrinking it. Again: regular monitors/screenshot have a density/resolution of somewhat between 72dpi and 100dpi - for high-quality printing you would need at least 300dpi So unless you reconfigure your X-server to use a higher (virtual) dpi than the default, using a "larger screenshot" will not help at all. (the larger screenshot will show the very same image, not more content) there is no point to use larger ones. ciao Chrisitan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
Takashi Nakamoto wrote: Yeah, I know higher resolution is preferable for paper publication, but we should separate those two things: web and magazine. Anyway, better low resolution than nothing, although the best option would be high and low resolution. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
Hi Marc, Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't allow higher resolution. If someone else volunteers for providing high resolution screen shots, I would leave it if we need such pictures. However, to see the detail of the screen, I think low resolution picture is better. In general, it's hard to see characters in a picture if it's in high resolution. For the purpose of introducing new features on our web site, I think they shouldn't be taken in too high resolution environment. I personally think 1600x pictures are too big for the pages on the web. And if we shrink those pictures, it's even harder to see the details on them. Yeah, I know higher resolution is preferable for paper publication, but we should separate those two things: web and magazine. (I have no objection to use PNG.) Thanks, Takashi (2011/05/28 0:07), Marc Paré wrote: Hi Takashi Le 2011-05-27 10:52, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : Hi Marc, OK. I'll make sure to follow the rules written in that page. Seems hard to resize the windows to the specified size (1000x750), but I'll manage to do it. Thanks, Takashi Not unless you choose the higher quality 1600x or 1900x PNG that is suggested. Florian suggested this size as many magazines had asked for screenshots when we released v.3.3.2 . Unless someone else suggests anything else, I am hoping that all screen shots will be taken at the higher resolution so that we have them ready for any requests from magazines. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] conference website
Hello Christian, Le Fri, 27 May 2011 16:55:30 +0200, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : > Hi Florian, *, > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Florian Effenberger > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > we want to announce the Conference Call for Papers very soon, and > > for that, we need the new conference website in place. Charles has > > posted some draft with new information to > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Paris_Conference > > > > What we would need is the following: > > > > 1. someone editing the main page, adding the new content and the > > images > > Done (and also published it) > http://conference.libreoffice.org thanks! logo is coming soon (needs to be validated by the Design team). > > > 2. someone building the backend for the call for papers, i.e. a > > form where people can enter their data, and it will be e-mailed > > somewhere > > See the other posts, also added the paragraph from the wiki page at > the top of it, but in that paragraph there is the deadline: "Friday > 22nd" - it can only be July I guess, but it should be added explicitly > (and did so in the draft). thanks, yes it's July 22nd. > > > Any volunteers for task #1 and #2? :) > > As Charles is fine with the cfp page/the form in itself, it can go > live once the target-address for the submitted papers is setup (well, > can go online earlier, but that would defeat the purpose of the email > notifications :-) > (only thing to do is decide whether to provide templates or not, if > not, then remove the corresponding part in the description) Cool! Best, Charles. > > ciao > Christian > -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
Hi Takashi Le 2011-05-27 10:52, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : Hi Marc, OK. I'll make sure to follow the rules written in that page. Seems hard to resize the windows to the specified size (1000x750), but I'll manage to do it. Thanks, Takashi Not unless you choose the higher quality 1600x or 1900x PNG that is suggested. Florian suggested this size as many magazines had asked for screenshots when we released v.3.3.2 . Unless someone else suggests anything else, I am hoping that all screen shots will be taken at the higher resolution so that we have them ready for any requests from magazines. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] conference website
Hi Florian, *, On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hello, > > we want to announce the Conference Call for Papers very soon, and for that, > we need the new conference website in place. Charles has posted some draft > with new information to > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Paris_Conference > > What we would need is the following: > > 1. someone editing the main page, adding the new content and the images Done (and also published it) http://conference.libreoffice.org > 2. someone building the backend for the call for papers, i.e. a form where > people can enter their data, and it will be e-mailed somewhere See the other posts, also added the paragraph from the wiki page at the top of it, but in that paragraph there is the deadline: "Friday 22nd" - it can only be July I guess, but it should be added explicitly (and did so in the draft). > Any volunteers for task #1 and #2? :) As Charles is fine with the cfp page/the form in itself, it can go live once the target-address for the submitted papers is setup (well, can go online earlier, but that would defeat the purpose of the email notifications :-) (only thing to do is decide whether to provide templates or not, if not, then remove the corresponding part in the description) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
Hi Marc, OK. I'll make sure to follow the rules written in that page. Seems hard to resize the windows to the specified size (1000x750), but I'll manage to do it. Thanks, Takashi (2011/05/27 23:00), Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-05-27 09:48, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : I'm thinking of taking some screen shots of new features for our Japanese website. If you like, I can contribute them also for our global website. Thanks, Takashi Nakamoto (2011/05/14 15:12), Marc Paré wrote: I'm helping out with the upcoming release 3.4 and was wondering if there were some rules to observe when taking image/photos/screen grabs for some of the features in this newest version. What size and quality should they be taken? Cheers Marc Hi Takashi Thanks for the offer. We should all follow the notes as found on the wiki pages for screenshots so that there is a feeling of consistency[1]. Also, as Christian mentioned in this thread .png's are strongly preferred. Maybe we should just say that screenshots should ONLY be .png's and NOT .jpg's. Cheers Marc [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website#Contribution_and_Support -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
Le 2011-05-27 09:48, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : I'm thinking of taking some screen shots of new features for our Japanese website. If you like, I can contribute them also for our global website. Thanks, Takashi Nakamoto (2011/05/14 15:12), Marc Paré wrote: I'm helping out with the upcoming release 3.4 and was wondering if there were some rules to observe when taking image/photos/screen grabs for some of the features in this newest version. What size and quality should they be taken? Cheers Marc Hi Takashi Thanks for the offer. We should all follow the notes as found on the wiki pages for screenshots so that there is a feeling of consistency[1]. Also, as Christian mentioned in this thread .png's are strongly preferred. Maybe we should just say that screenshots should ONLY be .png's and NOT .jpg's. Cheers Marc [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website#Contribution_and_Support -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice 3.4 images/photos
I'm thinking of taking some screen shots of new features for our Japanese website. If you like, I can contribute them also for our global website. Thanks, Takashi Nakamoto (2011/05/14 15:12), Marc Paré wrote: I'm helping out with the upcoming release 3.4 and was wondering if there were some rules to observe when taking image/photos/screen grabs for some of the features in this newest version. What size and quality should they be taken? Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: [Proposal] A central employment-office-like web structure for LibO volunteers
In data 23 maggio 2011 alle ore 08:41:06, Gianluca Turconi ha scritto: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOfficeWiki/Proposed#Central_Employment-office-like_Web_Structure_for_LibreOffice_Volunteers Just a brief update: in the Italian community, we're working on a Joomla *test* website for this tool (Italo Vignoli knows some details). As far as we've completed a /sufficiently/ working English *and* Italian test version, I'll post here the URL for further consideration of the work. We may test a Silverstripe solution too, like the LibO website, but it would surely be a future test. Regards, Gianluca -- Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza, fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale: http://www.letturefantastiche.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
