Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-22 Thread mwall
and now i see that JD made the same suggestion. apologies for being late to the party. i'm working my way through 300 weewx emails... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-22 Thread mwall
dan, it is quite possible that the driver is coded incorrectly. luc and i did the development and testing of the ws28xx driver, and all three locations were within 200 feet of sea level. so it is quite possible that the device reports barometer, not pressure. (if the device reports

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-20 Thread Dan Blanchard
Thanks Les, I will give this a go. Will be a couple days though before I can get to it. I'll report my findings. On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-8, ln77 wrote: > > JD said that he “suspects” that would be the right change. It would help > if you tested it, but be prepared

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-20 Thread Les Niles
JD said that he “suspects” that would be the right change. It would help if you tested it, but be prepared for it not to work or break the driver. Save the original version of the file, and restart weewx after changing it in order to load the new version. The location of the driver can

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-20 Thread Dan Blanchard
I was under the impression that what JD wrote was a change I can make to the driver. If so, how can I access the driver to modify it? On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 12:39:43 AM UTC-8, ln77 wrote: > > I thought your questions were answered: what you’ve done is a workaround. > Fundamentally,

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-20 Thread Les Niles
I thought your questions were answered: what you’ve done is a workaround. Fundamentally, it’s not a limitation of the LaCrosse hardware, it’s a bug in the driver. -Les > On 19 Feb 2020, at 12:05, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > Where did you all go? I was hoping for some comments on my last

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-16 Thread Andrew Milner
well if it is hard coded for pressure then the station adjustment made by the OP should be to set his station to a known sea level pressure and subtract a correction for altitude (2.6 for 2300 ft I think) and all should then be ok On Monday, 17 February 2020 07:09:35 UTC+2, ln77 wrote: > >

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-16 Thread Les Niles
Setting those that way won’t fix the problem. Those settings are hints to weewx about what to use when the weather station hardware provides multiple values. The WS28XX driver is hard-coded to interpret the data from the station as weewx “pressure,” and that is the only pressure-related datum

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-16 Thread gjr80
Andrew, I know Wikipedia has its issues but when you consider the pressures posted here and this I think it is pretty clear there is an issue with the OPs pressures. Gary On Monday, 17 February 2020 13:41:43 UTC+10, Andrew Milner

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-16 Thread Andrew Milner
pressure, barometer and altimeter look reasonable to me. why are they wrong? On Monday, 17 February 2020 03:09:28 UTC+2, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > Andrew, I've set barometer = hardware and altimeter = software and > pressure = software. I've restarted weewx, but nothing has changed in the

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-16 Thread Dan Blanchard
I don't know who Matthew is, but I am eagerly awaiting his input. Thanks. On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 6:13:15 AM UTC-8, Thomas Keffer wrote: > > This is Matthew's baby. Matthew? > > -tk > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:11 PM gjr80 > > wrote: > >> As this thread has drawn on I agree the

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-16 Thread Dan Blanchard
Andrew, I've set barometer = hardware and altimeter = software and pressure = software. I've restarted weewx, but nothing has changed in the Loop. On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:30:06 PM UTC-8, Andrew Milner wrote: > > if indeed, and i now tend to agree, the station displays and outputs a >

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-15 Thread Thomas Keffer
This is Matthew's baby. Matthew? -tk On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:11 PM gjr80 wrote: > As this thread has drawn on I agree the solution is in the driver. I found > it had to believe that a driver could have been around for so long with an > incorrect 'pressure' being used and the issue never

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread gjr80
As this thread has drawn on I agree the solution is in the driver. I found it had to believe that a driver could have been around for so long with an incorrect 'pressure' being used and the issue never having come up before. Sure enough, this thread

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread Andrew Milner
if indeed, and i now tend to agree, the station displays and outputs a manually adjusted barometer which is set to a sea level reading from local weather stations and not pressure then barometer should be set to hardware and pressure and altimeter set to software, and not as i previously

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread Les Niles
OK… The “pressure” that your station is displaying is what it should be displaying: the ambient air pressure, correct for your altitude. In weewx, this is called “barometer” because that is what weather stations report for barometric pressure. “Altimeter” is basically the same thing; there

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread Dan Blanchard
It is likely that I am mis-using the terms altimeter, barometer, and pressure. I'll clarify what I mean here. What I previously defined as 'correct' pressure is that the pressure reported by my station (LaCrosse WS-2813U-IT) matches the National Weather Service barometer reading (

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread Dan Blanchard
What I am defining as 'correct' pressure is the barometer value that matches the local reading from the National Weather Service (NWS) for my area. In other words, the pressure on my weather station (LaCrosse WS-2813U-IT) matches what the NWS is reporting as Barometer (

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread Andrew Milner
I would expet you to be reporting barometer = sea level pressure which is pressure adjusted for temperature and altitudebecause weather stations always report sea level pressures. Is what you call 'correct' pressure the raw pressure of the instrument or a pressure which you have set. Does the

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread Dan Blanchard
Andrew, that's a good questions; let me clarify. This issue started when Weather Underground (WU) stopped showing my station on the maps. I found out that was because I was reporting an incorrect barometric 'pressure.' As I dug into the details I found that my *station *was displaying the

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-14 Thread Andrew Milner
I am not sure I understand what you think is wrong with the readings of Pressure 29.89 Barometer 32.609 Altimeter 32.40 and why you believe something is wrong On Friday, 14 February 2020 05:57:36 UTC+2, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > Altitude is 2,320 ft. and the values are in the screen shot on the

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-13 Thread Dan Blanchard
Altitude is 2,320 ft. and the values are in the screen shot on the previous post. Did you see that? On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 7:16:11 PM UTC-8, Andrew Milner wrote: > > I give up - looks correct to me. > > have you run from the command line and seen the LOOP and REC data weewx is >

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-13 Thread Andrew Milner
I give up - looks correct to me. have you run from the command line and seen the LOOP and REC data weewx is receiving? what altitude is your station, and what values are you currently getting for pressure, barometer and altimeter? On Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:10:08 UTC+2, Dan Blanchard

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-13 Thread Dan Blanchard
I don't know, but that makes sense so I did it. I'm still not getting desired results though. On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 9:38:55 AM UTC-8, Kevin Davis wrote: > > Do you need a space between your minus sign and the adjustment value? > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:32 AM Dan Blanchard >

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-13 Thread Kevin Davis
Do you need a space between your minus sign and the adjustment value? On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:32 AM Dan Blanchard wrote: > Hey Andrew, will you please look at the attached screen shots and let me > know if this looks correct? > > Do I need to restart (sudo /etc/init.d/weewx restart) after I

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-13 Thread Dan Blanchard
Hey Andrew, will you please look at the attached screen shots and let me know if this looks correct? Do I need to restart (sudo /etc/init.d/weewx restart) after I make these changes? I have and the changes don't seem to be taking effect. Is there something else I need to do? With regard to

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-13 Thread Andrew Milner
If you have a LaCrosse WS28xx station then according to the hardware guide the station outputs PRESSURE in weewx terminology - regardless of what LaCrosse call it - and weewx should calculate barometer and altimeter settings. If pressure is incorrect then it can be adjusted as you specified -

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Blanchard
Andrew, are you suggesting that I make a 'correction' entry under [StdCalibrate] such as barometer = barometer -2.8 assuming that I am getting a pressure reading of 30.13 and Barometer and ALtitude readings of 32.93? (see attached screenshot) On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 7:42:08 PM

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Milner
1. use stdcalibrate section of weewx.conf http://weewx.com/docs/usersguide.htm#StdCalibrate 2. FO station = Fine Offset weather station On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:15:48 UTC+2, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > Andrew, how do I calibrate the pressure in weewx? Also, what's a FO > station? > > On

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Blanchard
Andrew, how do I calibrate the pressure in weewx? Also, what's a FO station? On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:01:08 PM UTC-8, Andrew Milner wrote: > > check that the absolute pressure is correct - I have had a FO station > which had a dodgy pressure sensor before now. Calibrating pressure in

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Andrew Milner
check that the absolute pressure is correct - I have had a FO station which had a dodgy pressure sensor before now. Calibrating pressure in weewx solved it. On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 03:51:29 UTC+2, gjr80 wrote: > > sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop will stop the current running service but if

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread gjr80
sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop will stop the current running service but if you have other instances running, for example WeeWX directly, sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop will have no effect as WeeWX is not running as a service. When running WeeWX directly you need to stop the execution using a

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Blanchard
The further I go, the more complex it is getting. First, yes I have a WS-2813U-IT and yes, I did set the relative pressure to match the local weather service. I don't want to muddy the waters any more, but how is it that I stopped the wewx service but it is still reporting? I'm still trying

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread gjr80
On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 10:16:47 UTC+10, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > OK, I shut down via sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop then I ran sudo weewxd > /etc/weewx/weewx.conf and it is continuing to produce data. I see that > the barometer and altimeter are both the 32.xx readings while pressure is >

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Blanchard
OK, I shut down via sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop then I ran sudo weewxd /etc/weewx/weewx.conf and it is continuing to produce data. I see that the barometer and altimeter are both the 32.xx readings while pressure is the same as what is reading on my station 29.9x. Can I ge weewx to read the

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread gjr80
Yes, that will shutdown a well behaved WeeWX service. Try that to start with. Gary On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 09:58:21 UTC+10, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > Do you mean sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 2:55:34 PM UTC-8, gjr80 wrote: >> >> OK, and what happens if

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Blanchard
Do you mean sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 2:55:34 PM UTC-8, gjr80 wrote: > > OK, and what happens if you shutdown/kill all running instances of WeeWX. > > Gary > > On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 08:48:43 UTC+10, Dan Blanchard wrote: >> >> I've attached the latest

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread gjr80
OK, and what happens if you shutdown/kill all running instances of WeeWX. Gary On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 08:48:43 UTC+10, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > I've attached the latest log and new screenshot > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 2:40:04 PM UTC-8, gjr80 wrote: >> >> That is bizarre, but

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread gjr80
That is bizarre, but sudo weewxd weewx.conf still gives a reaction and error. Nothing appears in the log? Gary On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 08:33:55 UTC+10, Dan Blanchard wrote: > > Screen shot attached > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 12:30:30 PM UTC-8, gjr80 wrote: >> >> What is

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Blanchard
Screen shot attached On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 12:30:30 PM UTC-8, gjr80 wrote: > > What is nothing? Does it just return to the command prompt? Can you post a > screenshot of the exact command entered and the entire response. > > Gary > -- You received this message because you are

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread gjr80
What is nothing? Does it just return to the command prompt? Can you post a screenshot of the exact command entered and the entire response. Gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Blanchard
First of all, thanks for sticking with me on this. I apologize for my denseness on this matter. I am apparently not running the proper weewxd; I've tried sudo weewxd /etc/weewx/weewx.conf and get nothing. I do not know how to see what pressures are being include in loop packet and archive

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Les Niles
The link in Gary’s mail explains how to run it — just give the full path to the config file as an argument to weewxd. Something like: sudo weewxd /etc/weewx/weewx.conf -Les > On Feb 11, 2020, at 9:21 AM, Dan Blanchard wrote: > >  > I have confirmed and to the best of my knowledge, the

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Blanchard
I have confirmed and to the best of my knowledge, the station altitude is set correctly (altitude = 2320 foot). When I run weewx directly (sudo weewxd weewx.conf) I get the following: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/weewxd", line 64, in weewx.engine.main(options, args)

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-11 Thread gjr80
Sorry, only use hPa here so the obvious nonsense inHg value was lost on me. WeeWX is flexible enough that you change whatever you want to display on your web page, you can use another field or recalculate using whatever you like, it's just a case of altering the appropriate template. Similarly,

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Mismatch Between Hardware and weeWX Data

2020-02-10 Thread Dan Blanchard
Agreed. If this is the case, can I configure weewx to show a different pressure? If so, how do I do that? On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 6:00:07 AM UTC-8, ln77 wrote: > > 33” is clearly too high for the barometric pressure. It is within spitting > distance of what you would get if the