jerome wagner wrote on 18.01.2006 19:51:
Peter Reaper a écrit :
Gecko is multi-platform *now* (not vaporware). ;-) Besides, you get a
lot of cool tools/features: tabs, XUL, best rendering engine
available, did I mention *XUL*.
can gecko/firefox easily be integrated in an existing gui shell
Hello,
Peter Reaper a écrit :
My preference would be to have *Wengo as a XUL application*, like
Thunderbird, Sunbird, NVU, Songbird, Zap.
I've looked at Songbird and Zap recently, they are very interesting indeed!
That would yield a huge number of benefits:
- OSS
- cross-platform
- very
Julien Gilli wrote:
It makes a lot of sense to me. Actually, I think WengoPhone could (i
mean *could*) be a fully XUL app that would be loaded inside a XUL
capable application (e.g Firefox) from any URI. Updates would be, as you
say above, more transparent then.
I tend to disagree quite
Peter Reaper wrote:
I have my VOIP client (currently Google talk) running im my system tray
taking up only 3.5 MB RAM. To have VOIP available as a Firefox extension
all the time would require me to have Firefox running all the time,
which takes up about 30+ MB RAM (on startup!) *plus* the
Hello,
Peter Reaper a écrit :
Julien Gilli wrote on 19.01.2006 13:34:
Hello,
Peter Reaper a écrit :
[XULRunner] would yield a huge number of benefits:
I think we can't agree more with you, this is why we started to
develop an OpenWengo Firefox extension that will be released soon.
I
Julien Gilli wrote on 19.01.2006 15:29:
I was talking about Wengo being a *standalone* XULRunner application.
Sure but we can consider, IMHO, that a Firefox extension is a big step
towards a standalone XUL application able to run on top of XULRunner.
I really appreciate your positive way of
Peter Reaper wrote:
The main point still remains valid: Most users will *not* want to have
to load their browser to make a phone call, or keep their browser loaded
to receive calls. And the RAM used is still ~7x that of Google Talk (25
MB vs. 3.5 MB).
I'm sure it's a cool Extension, but I
Daniel Glazman wrote on 19.01.2006 15:50:
Peter Reaper wrote:
The main point still remains valid: Most users will *not* want to have
to load their browser to make a phone call, or keep their browser
loaded to receive calls. And the RAM used is still ~7x that of Google
Talk (25 MB vs. 3.5
Hello,
Daniel Glazman wrote:
Julien Gilli wrote:
Does anyone have any insight on this subject?
Cross-platformness, open-source, embedabbility, 134,000,000 downloads.
You really need more arguments ?-)
There are other cross-platform, open source and embeddable web browsers.
They might be
On 1/18/06, Julien Gilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Daniel Glazman wrote:
Julien Gilli wrote:
Does anyone have any insight on this subject?
Cross-platformness, open-source, embedabbility, 134,000,000 downloads.
You really need more arguments ?-)
There are other cross-platform,
Hello,
Patrick Aljord wrote:
indeed, I think from a developper point of view, KHTML is really easy
to use cause it has a very nice and simple API. As an example Amarok,
KTorrent and many other added embedded KHTML to their app. This can be
done in very few lines of codes. Here you can find
Just a thought, do we really need that? embedding a web browser into a
messenger? I have an old PC and starting the windows version with the
embedded IE makes it very slow at start up. Maybe it could use some
SOAP or other XML method to retrieve and display basic information
about the user
Peter Reaper a écrit :
I use Windows (because Linux is too complex for *me*), and if IE is
used in Wengo, I will *not* use Wengo.
Gecko is multi-platform *now* (not vaporware). ;-) Besides, you get a
lot of cool tools/features: tabs, XUL, best rendering engine
available, did I mention *XUL*.
jerome wagner wrote:
what other cross platform option exist (apart from a platform to
platform specific integration - safari for mac, ie for windows, ?? for
linux) that could bring at least a pretty up to date html and css support ?
Opera. But it's not free, not open-source.
/Daniel
Opera's CSS support is... weird. not bad, but definitely weird. And
Daniel is right, not F/OSS, blah! As far as cross-platform rendering
engines go, it's pretty much gecko, or gecko. I'd really like to see
KHTML on Windows but apparently there are hurdles there.
So... Here's a thought. If we
Patrick Aljord wrote:
but please explain me what kind of feature you'd like to put into the
embedded XUL interface?
Obviously value-added services could be delivered through that channel.
Think about the way cell phone providers make money off ring-tones, or
the potential of social networking
Julien Gilli wrote on 05.01.2006 19:28:
NG means innovation,
That's pretty vague. s there a place where NG is explained better?
ask you the top 4 new or innovative functionalities you'd define as
mandatory.
==
* 1st functionality :
Conference calls (voice) -- no-brainer
* 2nd
On 1/17/06, Julien Gilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
End the reliance in the UI on the Internet Explorer rendering
engine!!! I want to un-install OW every time it asks me to allow
scripts/ActiveX/something IE-ish. I use Firefox for a reason.
It makes a lot of sense. We are thinking about
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